RMP is only likely to be sold by the PMC but as noted, that doesn't apply today - as noted above, a game update added enough RMP to the plot CV for plot station construction. FRs are indeed rare but periodically sold by friendly factions, as discussed above. At release, yes, it was hard to gather enough RMP and FRs.Bobucles wrote: So you require a rare resource that isn't produced locally, is produced by a hostile faction that you are hard locked out of trading with, and is so unbelievably otherwise rare that it can take HOURS to scavenge up enough parts to complete before you check online and find out you have to enter deep in enemy territory and basically spawn camp them as they come off the line
I don't think you're being particularly fair here. I personally didn't play rebirth until 1.25 but at release:RAVEN.myst wrote:That's you. Many others did not. If it weren't dangerously close to violating forum rules, I might suggest that thinking that just because you had to, then that's somehow representative is naively egocentric, at best.Bobucles wrote:The first time I tried the quest way back at release there was no reasonable way to finish it. I literally had to cheat resources just to skip it.
- We couldn't build in empty space.
- PMC rep wasn't locked (civilian ships would probably be kill on-sight).
- There were fewer galaxy free traders.
- There were no Trade Agents and less station info available (making it hard to know if and when FRs were being produced).
- There were problems with available trading mechanics.
I don't have first-hand knowledge of it but I think I read that in the past, stations had their own ships so perhaps there were fewer NPC system traders for 3rd party deliveries compared to today. Perhaps boarding was working OK at release but before there was a PMC rep lock, it was less easy to evac a capture.
Whilst Exhaustless Mines may not be hostile, it isn't a route through which I would expect NPCs would be transporting FRs. Although we could in principle use a second deployed CV in Exhaustless Mines to attract free traders with FRs on-board, I personally think that's a bit too "out-of-the box" to reasonably expect a player to work out on their own.RAVEN.myst wrote:That's incomplete exploration/scouting - there is a perma-zone with 2 build locations in Albion, specifically Exhaustless Mines in Far Out, conveniently close to the friendly HoA shipyard at Gemstone Manufacture. Furthermore, you don't HAVE to build only in perma-zones, and all "empty space" zones are extra-jurisdictional, so you can build freely without being molested.Bobucles wrote:Trying it again a few days ago was no walk in the park as I had to basically spawn camp the fusion reactors in enemy territory(Albion IS enemy territory when every zone is hostile PMC)
Bobucles was probably referring to resources not being brought to the plot CV in DeVries. A long delay isn't unlikely given system free traders in AL will be competing with galaxy free traders for FRs.RAVEN.myst wrote:Chances are, you were doing something wrong - of the half-dozen-plus times I've gone through the Rebirth plot, my last 2 or 3 involved building in Far Out, and NPC traders (primarily Ledda Industrial) were happy to bring me the necessary resources. After I had a Crystal Supplier and a Construction Shop there, I had no problems getting or making anything I needed thereafter. Oh and the deliveries by LI were impressively fast (though they DO slow down a bit on FRs as the game gets on, as supply falls short of total demand with the player's requirements added.)Bobucles wrote:NO ONE would automatically bring resources in after a dozen hours.