Why does ships have to back up?

[Brenten007]

I have a bunch of ships that needs refueling and they all jammed up trying to get in an out of the refueling station. I want to provide a Screen shots but this form will not allow me to add my personal screen shot to this message. Its a standard jpg. Why can't the just enter from one end and out the other like any logical sense.


And you owe me 50 mill for the lost Tarnis...!!!!!!!!!
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But really, who is stupid enough to back out of a gas station when there is no way out and plenty of room in front of you to just move forward.

I love the game but this issue got to go. NEED AN ABSOLUTE FIX NOW. ITS HOLDING UP PRODUCTION.
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[Goliathmk2]

Leave the zone.

Also both ends are used for refueling so flying through would crash into ships on the other side refueling.

Setting captains to auto refuel helps.

[Sparky Sparkycorp]

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Also both ends are used for refueling so flying through would crash into ships on the other side refueling.

Hmm, I've only ever seen one capital ship being refueled at a time and they always fly into the middle, leaving no room for a second ship.

[Luke0086]

Question/feedback on the game moved from Tech Support to Universe forum - Sparky

Also both ends are used for refueling so flying through would crash into ships on the other side refueling.

Hmm, I've only ever seen one capital ship being refueled at a time and they always fly into the middle, leaving no room for a second ship.

Same here. Would be nice for ships to exit in a forward and orderly manner...also in shipyards

[Lander1979]

Should be do-able but wouldn't be any faster than it is now. In fact with regard to Refuelling, it would half the number of ships able to refuel, as stated earlier, the ships refuel from both sides and this wouldn't be the case with a "fly through". Best thing to do is NOT WATCH, things go MUCH FASTER if you are Out Of Zone.

EDIT: I did say that ships didn't fly to the centre of the cell recharge fac, but I just witnessed one do it, so I was wrong on that count.

[Luke0086]

Should be do-able but wouldn't be any faster than it is now. In fact with regard to Refuelling, it would half the number of ships able to refuel, as stated earlier, the ships refuel from both sides and this wouldn't be the case with a "fly through". Best thing to do is NOT WATCH, things go MUCH FASTER if you are Out Of Zone.

EDIT: I did say that ships didn't fly to the centre of the cell recharge fac, but I just witnessed one do it, so I was wrong on that count.

But if they fly to the middle, there can't be 2 sides to refuel from surely? since there is only one middle...

I've only ever seen ships enter the station from one side, also. And like I said - Shipyards ships also reverse out of those, too. Although, I think these situations are the only times in the game you'll see a capship reverse, so maybe it's aesthetical design.

[RAVEN.myst]

I've seen multiple ships refuelling simultaneously, but only once or twice - that's why it caught my eye. I wish I could remember more particulars (as in, both ends, or top and bottom, or what). I just remember it looking pretty neat, and thinking "yes, good!" (I'll be sure to take snaps, next time I come across this)

[Phipsz]

Refuel Stations have 5 docking ports actually, one XL and 4 L, so I think all observations here are correct the L-docks are evenly distributed with 2 at each end. the XL-dock is placed in the middle though and it may be possible that all L-docks are blocked while the XL-ship is refueling (to enable to fly through, I guess). in Albion and DeVries, this should pose no problem, but OL as a result can only handle one tradeship at once, since they only have XL-types.

[RAVEN.myst]

Refuel Stations have 5 docking ports actually, one XL and 4 L, so I think all observations here are correct the L-docks are evenly distributed with 2 at each end. the XL-dock is placed in the middle though and it may be possible that all L-docks are blocked while the XL-ship is refueling (to enable to fly through, I guess). in Albion and DeVries, this should pose no problem, but OL as a result can only handle one tradeship at once, since they only have XL-types.

Ok, this tracks with my vague recollections, and explains "inconsistencies" (which actually aren't, right?) For instance, I could have sworn I'd seen two ships refilling one above the other (so, each close to one "arm" of the station), but was starting to think I'd confabulated the memory as a result of this discussion.

Thanks for the clarification

[Sparky Sparkycorp]

Or were they delivering wares?!? Only kidding - thanks for the info, Phipsz!

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[Phipsz]

heh, no. I did not look ingame but at the game files (assets/structures/build_trees/struct_bt_alb_fuelstation)
but "delivering wares" is a good hint as a workaround for big cues: you can actually order your trade ships to buy fuelcells instead of order->refuel. pro is: the ship will use the actual trading ports of the cell recharge fac, con is: you can't automate that. so you could manually order your trade ships to buy fuelcells early on in the game and later on build your own fuel facs. they are like the cheapest station ingame if I remember correctly

[RAVEN.myst]

Yes, I've had ships buy fuel cells as a ware before, just to see whether it would work, and it did, but I wasn't watching, so I didn't realise that they docked at trade berths - makes sense, though. Other than cutting a queue (which has never been an issue for me), there is another small advantage: the purchase can be queued up in the trade computer, so it won't interrupt current orders - can tell the ship to buy something, sell it, refuel, then get on with another buy/sell or buy/buy/sell or whatever cycle.