@TSM: Unfortunately Boarding Options keeps spamming hints on the screen, and hides messages from Hijack.
Cant do much about it - BO clears any hints instantly, and keeps displaying the marine count.
A workaround would be to move my hints to the event monitor - i just hate when target data is hidden because of messages on the event monitor, wanted to avoid it.
Feedback/ideas welcome how to get around this best.
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XR UI cannot handle the game's needs unfortunately. All the messages/comms have to fight with eachother, you can only handle 1 incoming comm or 1 custom hint properly at a time.
I wrote to camus, maybe we can come up with a solution.
Vanilla now displays marine count after each round in detail monitor since 4.0 - maybe he can remove his display or tells me a way to mod it out without hurting the functionality of boarding options.
I wrote to camus, maybe we can come up with a solution.
Vanilla now displays marine count after each round in detail monitor since 4.0 - maybe he can remove his display or tells me a way to mod it out without hurting the functionality of boarding options.
I have edited hijack so that only factions friendly to another faction will care if I am boarding a ship and I am really loving it. I set up my shipyard in Lava Flow and have been acting as a pirate, capturing any ships that come through from any faction. Quite fun.birdtable wrote:Started new game, using this modonly thing have to switch from joystick to mouse to be able to target radar,, then back to joy.... still not boarded yet,, always some ship around and guns a bit weak to take out radar quick enough.. certainly adds some badly needed tension.... good stuff.!!!
As soon as hijack triggers, your target becomes a 'friendly faction' member, and should be skipped by any other race as target. Not sure why you needed to edit anything, no other ships should interfere, nor should any station/ship care about what you do with the target (rep loss will not occur regardless of friend/foe settings of any of the involved races).BlackRain wrote: I have edited hijack so that only factions friendly to another faction will care if I am boarding a ship and I am really loving it. I set up my shipyard in Lava Flow and have been acting as a pirate, capturing any ships that come through from any faction. Quite fun.
Or do you mean excluding neutral ships when doing initial proximity check before hijack starts?
I wasn't sure if faction relations are fine for that in vanilla XR initially. Won't that result in being able to pirate almost any 'foreign' faction ships?
Practically letting boarding happen without any penalty in most cases?
For ex being able to capture any Argon defence forces in a zone where only JSS has stations.
If it makes for a better experience i would implement it, but unsure about the consequences.
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@birdtable: you can fly to your target and check any nearby ship/station's distance via targeting. Or just start boarding to get the initial status report of how many objects are in range and cancel out if anything is too close.
You can do that as soon as you can target the ship (from 30km? or perhaps 50?).
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Cheers, hope you'll have fun with it
Edit: regarding weak guns - you can use limpet mines for a quick solution.
Has the added benefit of the escorts not attacking the Skunk afterwards IF you let the escorts hit/kill the traitor drone.
The radar is often next to the boarding bay, so watch out for blast radius. But hijack will repair the drone bay anyway (and adds some drones to increase defence rating).
Edit: regarding weak guns - you can use limpet mines for a quick solution.
Has the added benefit of the escorts not attacking the Skunk afterwards IF you let the escorts hit/kill the traitor drone.
The radar is often next to the boarding bay, so watch out for blast radius. But hijack will repair the drone bay anyway (and adds some drones to increase defence rating).
pref wrote:As soon as hijack triggers, your target becomes a 'friendly faction' member, and should be skipped by any other race as target. Not sure why you needed to edit anything, no other ships should interfere, nor should any station/ship care about what you do with the target (rep loss will not occur regardless of friend/foe settings of any of the involved races).BlackRain wrote: I have edited hijack so that only factions friendly to another faction will care if I am boarding a ship and I am really loving it. I set up my shipyard in Lava Flow and have been acting as a pirate, capturing any ships that come through from any faction. Quite fun.
Or do you mean excluding neutral ships when doing initial proximity check before hijack starts?
I wasn't sure if faction relations are fine for that in vanilla XR initially. Won't that result in being able to pirate almost any 'foreign' faction ships?
Practically letting boarding happen without any penalty in most cases?
For ex being able to capture any Argon defence forces in a zone where only JSS has stations.
If it makes for a better experience i would implement it, but unsure about the consequences.
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@birdtable: you can fly to your target and check any nearby ship/station's distance via targeting. Or just start boarding to get the initial status report of how many objects are in range and cancel out if anything is too close.
You can do that as soon as you can target the ship (from 30km? or perhaps 50?).
I made it so the initial check would allow me to pirate ships without losing rep. Well, you can set Station to neutral and ship to friend. This way, you couldn't just hijack in a zone with stations but at least you could hijack a ship somewhere in a zone where there are no stations (for me in lava flow because there are always ROC ships running around and I couldn't hit up other ships like LEDDA industrial, etc)
Also, factions do have relations with each other (which could also be set and I can set faction relations between different factions). This is beyond the scope of "hijack" but its something I can do in CWIR which can affect this mod too. I only edited hijack for my own personal use anyway, not sure if others would like it or if it would work for you.
By the way I am on skype if you want to talk about it.
Hi ... Using Hijack along with CWIR.... plus among others Boarding Options,
At the start a new game with cwir+Hijack I boarded a rahanas and then sold it but in the active missions it continued to display "obtain 5 cargo drones" in the end I tracked it down and re-boarded ,, but on the docking icon I could only get "info" ... recalled my marine and shot it to death.
Much later I found a Midar with around 130 scoop urv's ++ other drones, needed one and this was to good to miss, man what a balancing act after many failings I finally came out of the game gave myself 50 elites and tried again (was not going to destroy drone bay) at around 5 to 10% structure I despatched my boarding crew ... lost marines but boarded, the ships was mine, time to dock but only "info" was displayed ....
Not sure if this Hijack or other mods,, ... certainly have to pick your boarding locations more wisely.. ..... Have found very few locations to board where you are free of other ships/stations and still cannot target and destroy radar fast enough ,, but that could be me being a numpty.
Edit ..on further testing without Hijack (new game) the rahanas mentioned above had to be shot again as it still wanted cargo drones after being boarded and sold...
At the start a new game with cwir+Hijack I boarded a rahanas and then sold it but in the active missions it continued to display "obtain 5 cargo drones" in the end I tracked it down and re-boarded ,, but on the docking icon I could only get "info" ... recalled my marine and shot it to death.
Much later I found a Midar with around 130 scoop urv's ++ other drones, needed one and this was to good to miss, man what a balancing act after many failings I finally came out of the game gave myself 50 elites and tried again (was not going to destroy drone bay) at around 5 to 10% structure I despatched my boarding crew ... lost marines but boarded, the ships was mine, time to dock but only "info" was displayed ....
Not sure if this Hijack or other mods,, ... certainly have to pick your boarding locations more wisely..
..... Have found very few locations to board where you are free of other ships/stations and still cannot target and destroy radar fast enough ,, but that could be me being a numpty.Edit ..on further testing without Hijack (new game) the rahanas mentioned above had to be shot again as it still wanted cargo drones after being boarded and sold...
Dont think it's hijack - i sold quite a few hijacked and non-hijackesd ships during testing, to check if penalties are working the way i want them when selling ships back to shipyard.
Every time the ship really got sold, also i could dock at hijacked ships to retrieve the MO (did not try anything else, but docking worked).
If you could check the log and see if there are any errors appearing there when selling ships it might help to get to the root of the problem.
I was also testing hijack with boarding options together - found no issues so far.
Every time the ship really got sold, also i could dock at hijacked ships to retrieve the MO (did not try anything else, but docking worked).
If you could check the log and see if there are any errors appearing there when selling ships it might help to get to the root of the problem.
I was also testing hijack with boarding options together - found no issues so far.
URVs are intentional, this has a chance to block you to get bigger ships with drone bay intact (fulmekron for ex), even with an elite team.
For smaller vessels, if you have good enough marines, you get some extra URVs with the ship. When you reach that point, the price of drones is negligible in my experience anyway.
Plus the way combat drones are utilized, they haven't much effect on the anything.
I could change them to construction URVs to achieve the same resistance increase, but those drones do have a use so that would be a worse exploit.
Ideally hijack should need a pricey consumable (from pirates exclusively), that costs more then the drones on the ship - but economic balance is so off in the game, i did not feel the need to code that part.
Originally i thought about player having to deliver a stolen albion militrary ship (arawn or tara) to a pirate guy, after which one-time-use military and freighter grade hijack modules could be bought from that guy.
Sadly the amount of money thrown at you during gameplay makes this part hard to balance, and then what remains is that player has to fly to some dumb npc every once in a while to do a quick fetch mission to be able to hijack.
Or i could skip the BR increase entirely, but then a full noob team could get next to any ship without having to do any fight at all.
For smaller vessels, if you have good enough marines, you get some extra URVs with the ship. When you reach that point, the price of drones is negligible in my experience anyway.
Plus the way combat drones are utilized, they haven't much effect on the anything.
I could change them to construction URVs to achieve the same resistance increase, but those drones do have a use so that would be a worse exploit.
Ideally hijack should need a pricey consumable (from pirates exclusively), that costs more then the drones on the ship - but economic balance is so off in the game, i did not feel the need to code that part.
Originally i thought about player having to deliver a stolen albion militrary ship (arawn or tara) to a pirate guy, after which one-time-use military and freighter grade hijack modules could be bought from that guy.
Sadly the amount of money thrown at you during gameplay makes this part hard to balance, and then what remains is that player has to fly to some dumb npc every once in a while to do a quick fetch mission to be able to hijack.
Or i could skip the BR increase entirely, but then a full noob team could get next to any ship without having to do any fight at all.
to be honest...
i would prefer Construction URV, makes it a bit more urgent to watch the hull and surface elements during a cap.
Or Fighting URV like Interceptors and such... makes a cap harder because the player is distracted while the boarding is in progress.
and who said that the ships does not have a hidden stash of old tech URVs, eh?
i would prefer Construction URV, makes it a bit more urgent to watch the hull and surface elements during a cap.
Or Fighting URV like Interceptors and such... makes a cap harder because the player is distracted while the boarding is in progress.
and who said that the ships does not have a hidden stash of old tech URVs, eh?
If the repair rate increases dramatically with more drones, that might be a good point. Forces hull management with a lower team.
Giving away construction URVs for free might not be a good idea, but i could remove those afterall on success.
All of these drones are utilized i wonder, or there is a max limit on their number..? Assuming i set the target's engineer to 5*
Giving away construction URVs for free might not be a good idea, but i could remove those afterall on success.
All of these drones are utilized i wonder, or there is a max limit on their number..? Assuming i set the target's engineer to 5*
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