[MOD] Skunk Overhaul

xrook · Post by **xrook** » Tue, 29. Sep 15, 00:11

is this the mod's offset?

<position x="2.136541" y="-5.27167" z="19.70758"/>

wouldnt that make the cockpit way too far from the ship?
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Grandsome · Post by **Grandsome** » Wed, 30. Sep 15, 22:36

Here's a quick and dirty mspaint I made explaining what I'm talking about.
That's my ingame perspective, I might be wrong about the actual positions.

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Dropbox link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2o8nro4ppq32l ... t.png?dl=0[/img]

xrook · Post by **xrook** » Wed, 30. Sep 15, 22:43

my offset
<position x="-3.10" y="1.95" z="-0.55"/>
x -3.10 is just left of the nose of my ship
y 1.95 is above the nose because you dont want it inside of the ship
z -0.55 is to make sure it not at the tip of the nose of the ship

this should make it right at the cockpit of the foltor raider model

z = 0 means its right at the tip of the nose

while the pivot fix's z= 19 is as at the picture i shown, way too far
you dont believe me? give the 'tag laucher' the same offset as the pivot fix then look at 3rd person view

the 'current pivot' you shown me is just right because ren otani is at the left side of the ship while yisha is at the right

EDIT: you can just put x=0 so it would be at the center if it really bothers you, my mod's files isnt a cat/dat

Post by **UniTrader** » Wed, 30. Sep 15, 23:12

you should see the whole picture, not just a small part of it.

i have moved all Components of the Skunk by exactly the same vector, so relative positions stay the same, just the pivot moves. if you only use the changed CP coordinates and not move the other parts its obvious that the CP ends up outside of the Ship

PS hint: there is an xsl file inside this Mod which was used to generate the related diff file - it should also work for other Variants of the Skunk if you want to move it by a diffrent vector

made it simply changeable because i wasnt sure if my initial vector really fits or if i would have to do it over..

xrook · Post by **xrook** » Wed, 30. Sep 15, 23:19

so what you did is, made the ship cockpit offset into z19 then made the cockpit components z-19?? wouldnt that make it back to z=0??

anyway im playing MGS and my mod is not a cat/dat so he could just change the offset to yours

and if i did a compatibility patch just for your pivot fix, what about those who doesnt have that mod installed? the cockpit would be way to far without your mod

EDIT: btw you got sreanshots of your mod from the inside? what does it look like?

Reddeq · Post by **Reddeq** » Sat, 3. Oct 15, 11:17

Hello, xrook. First of all, cool mod, I like it very much. But, well, I have found incompatibility with Exploration Software - I can buy software, but it doesn't appear in Skunk upgrades menu, and I cannot use it

xrook · Post by **xrook** » Sat, 3. Oct 15, 11:28

my mod doesnt fiddle with the software upgrade lists, only weapons, engines, and drone lists

but just in case show me your debug log

Reddeq · Post by **Reddeq** » Sat, 3. Oct 15, 11:56

There's rebirth.log
Well, when I realised, that I can't install software, I tried to disable some mods, and with disabled Skunk Overhaul it works. Thanks for your help

xrook · Post by **xrook** » Sat, 3. Oct 15, 12:16

your log is filled with errors, cannot match files and so on... can i suggest a clean install of mods and choose only the ones thats up to date? even your teladi outpost DLC shows a 'cannot match file' error

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=370788

both mine and the exploration software suppose to have a debug text that says that they are cued, but they are not on the list

so that means they didnt cue

to create a comparison how messed up your game is here is my last debuglog http://www.mediafire.com/view/akk2d8tmy ... buglog.txt
with this much mods http://i62.tinypic.com/35am2rb.jpg

also make sure you do not rename any of the mod's folder name

Reddeq · Post by **Reddeq** » Sat, 3. Oct 15, 13:06

Oh, I dont't really understand when reading this log=( But most mods I installed are in this list, and only few are not, but I tested them before starting new serious playthrough.
But I'll try to redownload some mods (2 or 3 of them have my own corrections, and maybe I broke something).
And what does it mean - "they are not cued"?=)
Sorry for bad English

xrook · Post by **xrook** » Sat, 3. Oct 15, 13:39

i installed it and i can see it listed in my ship upgrades after buying it
http://i62.tinypic.com/vfh5jt.jpg

and the exploration software has one debug error

Code: Select all

[General] ======================================
[=ERROR=] Cannot match path '/macros/macro[@name='unit_player_ship_macro']/properties/upgrades' in patch file 'extensions\phipszspaceexplorationsoftware\assets\units\player\macros\unit_player_ship_c_macro'. Skipping node.
[General] ======================================

but i cant see the 'exploration' on the sidebar, its either that i have a conflicting mod with the sidebar mod or its outdated

Reddeq · Post by **Reddeq** » Sat, 3. Oct 15, 13:50

Oh, it means, I'm an idiot. Sorry for worrying you. Will look for troubles on my side. Thanks for your help again
Well, it's strange, but I started new game, and software works good. Strange, because previous save was new game with all these mods too

Grandsome · Post by **Grandsome** » Sat, 17. Oct 15, 00:35

the 'current pivot' you shown me is just right because ren otani is at the left side of the ship while yisha is at the right

Sorry for the late answer,

The difference between the Skunk and the Foltor Raider model is that the foltor is symetrical and its cockpit is right at the center. The Skunk is asymetrical with its cockpit on the right side of the ship not at the center and it's why the default pivot goes right through the player's seat whose on the left side of the cockpit.[/quote]

xrook · Post by **xrook** » Sat, 17. Oct 15, 03:33

xrook wrote:my mod is not a cat/dat so he could just change the offset to yours

and if i did a compatibility patch just for your pivot fix, what about those who doesnt have that mod installed? the cockpit would be way to far without your mod

dan92d · Post by **dan92d** » Wed, 9. Mar 16, 20:00

It works with 4.0 and Hol. It's one of my favourite mods

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The idea of limiting the number of weapons (2) makes this game more realistic.
But i have one question: where can i find Plasma Cannon mk3?
Thank you in advance

P.S. can you put this mod on steam workshop?

xrook · Post by **xrook** » Wed, 9. Mar 16, 20:06

dan92d wrote:It works with 4.0 and Hol. It's one of my favourite mods .
The idea of limiting the number of weapons (2) makes this game more realistic.
But i have one question: where can i find Plasma Cannon mk3?
Thank you in advance

P.S. can you put this mod on steam workshop?

im playing path of exile atm, i believe i made it a random chance to be sold after you finish the mission where you will obtain your first plasma cannon

xrook · Post by **xrook** » Wed, 9. Mar 16, 20:15

wait, after watching the 4.0 trailer it seems they added their own official plasma cannon MK3 and their own sniper gun

i also see some new weapon modification features in this new update so i have no idea if it will work my mod

i believe you wont find the plasma cannon MK3 as there is a conflict with the official version

and i cant just update it because i havnt played the game for 6 months

dertien · Post by **dertien** » Fri, 24. Jun 16, 20:42

Thank you for this very cool mod.

Issue:

Description:
Non responsive speech GUI

How to replicate:
When visiting a Mechanic immediately at gamestart (before doing anything else), using a NEW gamestart (Aspiring Merchant) in freeplay sandbox mode.

Go talk to the Mechanic first thing and try to buy the inertial hammer MK I. Game does not crash, but the NPC speech GUI disappears and you are left with the option only to exit the game.

Solution:

Ok, this is due to the fact (I think) that the game engine has not set up everything yet in the background. You can avoid this by waiting like 5 minutes before buying weapons / engines / shields to upgrade your ship. Hope this helps.

Nothing really the modder can do about this.

dertien · Post by **dertien** » Fri, 24. Jun 16, 21:09

dan92d wrote:It works with 4.0 and Hol. It's one of my favourite mods .
The idea of limiting the number of weapons (2) makes this game more realistic.
But i have one question: where can i find Plasma Cannon mk3?
Thank you in advance

P.S. can you put this mod on steam workshop?

I found the plasma cannon MK3 for sale in sandbox mode. Here is a screenshot:

https://i.imgsafe.org/d8408274bf.png

Other weapons too:

https://i.imgsafe.org/d840a552b8.png

Here's where to find it:

Spoiler

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Start 'Aspiring Merchant' in sandbox mode, sell the ship you are given at gamestart at the L shipyard in the same system. Go visit the Mechanic at the Shipyard there (locate him/her by plotting course through the GUI, or asking where can I find you ) using the talk gui.

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Bishop Weyland · Post by **Bishop Weyland** » Wed, 23. Aug 17, 18:29

hey guys I want give Rebirth a try ,but I hate the Skunk.. want this beautiful one

I#ve installed however with graphical isseus:
bottom :
http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4823 ... 4q_jpg.htm

and Cockpitt left side:
http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4823 ... mf_jpg.htm

could anybody help ?

What do I need to fix that (no ohter mods used at the mom)