Litcube's Universe

[zanosg]

Question. I joined 2 Saturn Hubs with Complex Construction Kit. Are these meant to be joined with CCK? Or should I not do it?

NOPE! look back about two pages... Litcube just responded to someone else about this.

cant find it.

[Zaitsev]

Question. I joined 2 Saturn Hubs with Complex Construction Kit. Are these meant to be joined with CCK? Or should I not do it?

NOPE! look back about two pages... Litcube just responded to someone else about this.

cant find it.

It's on page 574, so a little more than a couple of pages back. And it's a bad idea, as they are not intended to be joined by CCks and doing so will cause weird behavior and possibly break stuff.

[zanosg]

Question. I joined 2 Saturn Hubs with Complex Construction Kit. Are these meant to be joined with CCK? Or should I not do it?

NOPE! look back about two pages... Litcube just responded to someone else about this.

cant find it.

It's on page 574, so a little more than a couple of pages back. And it's a bad idea, as they are not intended to be joined by CCks and doing so will cause weird behavior and possibly break stuff.

Ok. Thank you very much.

[dizzy]

Backdoor the OCV: The Quantum Jumpdrive. It's a bit easy to jump to an OCV sector, jump to the middle, make a dash to the station in a heavy-shield craft (if the station isn't made at 0,0,0 in the sector like usual) and call the fleet to jump to you. Then you'd order everyone to attack the station, destroy it quickly, and then quickly retreat.

This is what I aim to fix (among other things) with my Revelation Patrol Groups change. They still don't try to leave just one patrol group close to the station but it shouldn't be too hard to make that change...

[artisauce]

Backdoor the OCV: The Quantum Jumpdrive. It's a bit easy to jump to an OCV sector, jump to the middle, make a dash to the station in a heavy-shield craft (if the station isn't made at 0,0,0 in the sector like usual) and call the fleet to jump to you. Then you'd order everyone to attack the station, destroy it quickly, and then quickly retreat.

This is what I aim to fix (among other things) with my Revelation Patrol Groups change. They still don't try to leave just one patrol group close to the station but it shouldn't be too hard to make that change...

Maybe you should make a fix with them being more zealous/"jumpy" about their stations. I played with the fix (I just chose all the options you had, really,) but for the most part my Valhallas were able to endure quite a bit before needing to head home. The security in the center is very variable, but always there's an M2 playing chicken with the asteroid belt 60km away. Only once did I encounter some really heavy resistance, and incidentally, it was the last OCV station. I disabled emergency jump on the last 2 Valhallas and I barely succeeded.

[ltdan81]

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Weaponized Plutarch Tractor System: This, basically. I found out when settling in my home sector, an asteroid a bit too close to an SCH started to hurt it. I tried it with the Phanon HQ. Needed about 6 asteroids in the same spot to have a decent rate of damage to destroy it in a meaningful time. Against Capital ships, it traps them inside the asteroid, and they bump it from within until they kill themselves. Works on OCV stations as well. Probably a case of "okay how about you don't do that," maybe have a safeguard so you can't tele asteroids into an enemy sector that has enemies in it?

I didn't see the point in burning resources usining the PTS in this way until I was attempting to gain rep with the Yaki... I got lucky and had 3 protect missions available when i jumped into Weavers Tempest so I quickly saved and called in my TL to try this out.

Simply place the asteroid directly on the gate and then accept the missions.
All the ships will spawn inside the asteroid where they'll crush themselves.
Just remember to move the asteroid when you're done so you don't accidentally jump into it yourself later on. haha

Smart. Still, though, you miss out on the rep bonuses on killing the ships themselves. They don't count to you, they crashed into an asteroid. They also probably won't bail (unless they think the asteroid is quite a deadly threat and has a lot of combat strength compared to themselves ... which probably STILL doesn't count as those checks are likely not done while extreme-collision-melee is occurring.) Loot is viable, but you'll have to move the asteroid before getting it (or go OOS so your units can do their ghostly shenanigans.)

Also gotta wonder what advantages exist to be friends with the Yaki. They have sectors that isn't really paramount for my satellites to exist it, and they're isolated in a corner of the universe. Unless they got a kickass ship or some great benefit that comes along later... pirates, while enemies to everyone, seems like to have greater benefit to be friends with, as they have more intrusive sectors and a better economy that can be tapped into.

I also wonder if Litcube looked through my notes.

Oh, forgot to say that point of doing it this way is to not lose Rep with the attacker's race...Yaki only have Paranid attack them.

Obviously you miss out on bonus gains but i prefer that to bonus losses with the Paranid, Yaki, and Pirates. lol I might turn on the pirates later, but it makes the early game soooo much easier to keep them happy.

BTW, rep is easy to gain for several races with strategic Lasertower deployments...

Spoiler

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Argon = Getsu Fune, Black Hole Sun
Boron = Menelaus's Paradise
Split = Zyarth's Dominion, Thyn's Abyss
Teladi = Grand Exchange, Bright Profit, Scale Plate Green, Eighteen Billion
Terran = Oort Cloud
Pirates = Nopileos's Memorial, Lost Order

These sectors also have frequent protect and patrol missions against xenon

Also fighting OCV in the Omicron channel give good rep... (vanilla LT's won't do much for you here)

[ltdan81]

My tug dumps all ships before docking (and they subsequently dock at the same dock). Is there anyway i can stop this? I want the ships to stay docked to the tug as it has marines onboard that fix them up (using marines training script). It definitely dumped the ship before I installed the marines training script too so it is not that effecting it (maybe what is happening is intentional anyway).

My tug is an M1 Xenon J if that matters.

I just changed mine so the marines would also repair ships at the same player owned dock. ;P

Why are you using an M1 for a tug? It seems like a waste of valuable firepower... I use two Chokaros and an Oziaz which works out nicely. I also have an Aran that I'll use the tug command on if I have a few big ships to pick up, I don't leave it on because it keeps being sent to pick up M5's even when both TM's are waiting. LOL Don't know if there's a limit to how many ships can be running the TuG command at the same time but I haven't needed more than these 4.

Another script tweak I made was to reduce the requirements for the carrier docking so it works on TM's... It's pretty cool to see them zipping around on SETA beaming in ships. ;P

[artisauce]

Oh, forgot to say that point of doing it this way is to not lose Rep with the attacker's race...Yaki only have Paranid attack them.

Obviously you miss out on bonus gains but i prefer that to bonus losses with the Paranid, Yaki, and Pirates. lol I might turn on the pirates later, but it makes the early game soooo much easier to keep them happy.

BTW, rep is easy to gain for several races with strategic Lasertower deployments...

Spoiler

Show

Argon = Getsu Fune, Black Hole Sun
Boron = Menelaus's Paradise
Split = Zyarth's Dominion, Thyn's Abyss
Teladi = Grand Exchange, Bright Profit, Scale Plate Green, Eighteen Billion
Terran = Oort Cloud
Pirates = Nopileos's Memorial, Lost Order

These sectors also have frequent protect and patrol missions against xenon

Also fighting OCV in the Omicron channel give good rep... (vanilla LT's won't do much for you here)

I managed to get all of my Terran/ATF rep by placing laser towers at Jupiter 3 and Heretics End, all the way to level 10 (thus begins a new era of Valhallas!)

This is also a good way to get -5 with the pirates.

[Cryonist]

I found a bug. When using the remote place station command on a TL to place a station when out of sector the station dissapears. The mission completes but the station cannot be found in the system afterwards. Placing stations while in sector works normally.

[Alan Phipps]

@ Cryonist: A known and reported issue with LU remote order building - the station is probably in the sector where the TL was when the order was first given and not in the target sector.

[Cryonist]

@ Cryonist: A known and reported issue with LU remote order building - the station is probably in the sector where the TL was when the order was first given and not in the target sector.

Thanks for your reply. I'll check if the station is in another system. Honestly thats not a big concern as long as its somewhere 'enriching the economy' of my game and I don't have to jump to the sectors for placing stuff every time its fine.

Feature request: In addition to "Show/Hide Traders" and "Show/Hide Security" keybind options for the property menu I would like to request a third option: "Show/Hide Miners".
As a workaround I currently use set "Show fighters" to 'No'. This works because I only bought the M3 miners and the only other fighters I use (Kestrel with remote claim software and personal M3) are docked at my TM so still easily accessible.

[zanosg]

Can anyone explain to me Automatic Laser Switching? As far as I understand it a ship will only switch lasers depending on the distance of the target. Correct?

Also under this there is Allow Area Effect Lasers. What does this do?

I have enabled Auto Laser Switching and Allow Area Effect Lasers but none of my ships seem to switch lasers.

[artisauce]

Can anyone explain to me Automatic Laser Switching? As far as I understand it a ship will only switch lasers depending on the distance of the target. Correct?

Also under this there is Allow Area Effect Lasers. What does this do?

I have enabled Auto Laser Switching and Allow Area Effect Lasers but none of my ships seem to switch lasers.

I think it's a hard-coded artifact of Vanilla laser switching. Whether it's still viable, usable, or even effective in LU, I have yet to test and determine.

I'd use MARS, but LU doesn't have support for it.

[BlackArchon]

Then use Smart Turrets, god damnit!

[zanosg]

Can anyone explain to me Automatic Laser Switching? As far as I understand it a ship will only switch lasers depending on the distance of the target. Correct?

Also under this there is Allow Area Effect Lasers. What does this do?

I have enabled Auto Laser Switching and Allow Area Effect Lasers but none of my ships seem to switch lasers.

I think it's a hard-coded artifact of Vanilla laser switching. Whether it's still viable, usable, or even effective in LU, I have yet to test and determine.

I'd use MARS, but LU doesn't have support for it.

It worked in vanilla perfectly fine. I mean Auto Laser Switching did. I dont know about the "Allow Area Effect Lasers" as I never had it on.

[zanosg]

Then use Smart Turrets, god damnit!

Does Smart Turrets switches lasers depending on the type of target? For example, if it destroys M2 with PPC will it switch to FAA to attack fighters?

[BlackArchon]

That's the purpose of it.

[artisauce]

Then use Smart Turrets, god damnit!

Does Smart Turrets switches lasers depending on the type of target? For example, if it destroys M2 with PPC will it switch to FAA to attack fighters?

Question of the day. It says that it evaluates and switches targets, whether it evaluates based on current weapons or what it has in storage is unknown.

Edit: Ninja'd.

[Zaitsev]

I dont know about the "Allow Area Effect Lasers" as I never had it on.

Area effect lasers probably refer to the Phased Shockwave Generator, as it affects a huge area in the vanilla game and can wreak havoc on anything within range. This can cause friendly fire left and right, so having the opportunity to turn it off is kinda nice to have if you're cruising through friendly space and run into a pirate wing or something.

[zanosg]

I dont know about the "Allow Area Effect Lasers" as I never had it on.

Area effect lasers probably refer to the Phased Shockwave Generator, as it affects a huge area in the vanilla game and can wreak havoc on anything within range. This can cause friendly fire left and right, so having the opportunity to turn it off is kinda nice to have if you're cruising through friendly space and run into a pirate wing or something.

Oh I know. I had Deimos with Phased Shockwave Generator in every turret. I never used it in friendly sectors.