Hi Mister Reaper of souls !
Just tested today, and was unable to reproduce my ship sliding effect. Will give ony more try later this week.
It's so fantastic to see a capital formation like in X3TC-AP.
now i need a Xenon war system, like Core023.
Thank you !
PS, i'm playing 1.3 and using only Patrol sector command atm.
[MOD] Manual Command Extension v0.20 (Updated : Jun 28, 2014)
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I have seen strange behavior. I have seen the sliding thing and I have also seen other strange things. For example, ships seem to sit still OOS but when I go IS they fly super fast to get into formation ( I guess they are boosting but they are going very fast).
Also, when IS and telling the fleet commander to jump to another sector, once it jumps, the other capital ships start the boosting animation but stay in one place and don't move. Or they fly to where the lead ship was and just sit there.
Also, when IS and telling the fleet commander to jump to another sector, once it jumps, the other capital ships start the boosting animation but stay in one place and don't move. Or they fly to where the lead ship was and just sit there.
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Berserk Knight
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I've finally got the fleet zone-to-zone movement to work without messing up too much.
A few more rounds of testing with some extreme cases will be needed, but hopefully, it'll be ready to roll out during the weekend.
On a side note, a friendly fire incident in the most recent testing resulted in a Cell Fab Matrix being completely (well, aside from the Apartment Suite and the radar dish) taken out by my fleet of 9 Taranis.
1 Taranis was lost in the process.
WOULD'VE looked cool, if not for the fps drop.
Soooooooooooooooo much fps drop...ugh.
A few more rounds of testing with some extreme cases will be needed, but hopefully, it'll be ready to roll out during the weekend.
On a side note, a friendly fire incident in the most recent testing resulted in a Cell Fab Matrix being completely (well, aside from the Apartment Suite and the radar dish) taken out by my fleet of 9 Taranis.
1 Taranis was lost in the process.
WOULD'VE looked cool, if not for the fps drop.
Soooooooooooooooo much fps drop...ugh.
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Berserk Knight
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Update on my current..."situation"
With the mod...
Fleet/escort scripts are in a state I'd consider release-worthy.
Movement - specifically, booster usage - has been fine tuned so it's seamless as possible, and doesn't send ships speeding into the unknown regions of space anymore.
Ships boosting around like crazy within the same zone should no longer happen. (They WILL use boosters when their escort target is also boosting, or when they need to close distance. However, they will only do so when they are properly aligned.)
Issuing the "move forward #km" command will make the ship boost.
Attacking targets...well, until I stop using the vanilla combat scripts (which EgoSoft had the courtesy to break even more with 1.30) the "attack target" command will be limited to targets that have relation values low enough to be considered an "enemy". (-10 or lower)
...What did they do to the combat scripts? Well, someone decided to remove the 2 lines of code that told capital ships to fire their non-turret weapons. (Novadrones for Balors and IHC for Sucelluses.)
If it had to be done because it interfered with some new important function, it could be forgiven. (COULD, not would.)
Nope, all they added was one line that gives a list of additional targets to the DRONES. Oh, and only once when they launch. No updates on the target list after that.
Wow, it's such a vast improvement that totally justifies losing the ability to fire off signature main weapons! ...Not.
With my laptop...
This thing's a few years old, and while it's still powerful enough to run most games at reasonably high fidelity presets, it's been suffering abnormal and severe overheating issues for about a week or two.
(MSI GT680R. i7-2630QM CPU, 10GB RAM, Geforce GTX460M VGA...still fairly powerful.)
I'm guessing the thermal compound on the heatsink module has dried out or something like that, since cleaning all the dust and setting the fan to max still results in overheating when playing games.
(I'm SO glad this thing has that button for putting the fan on overdrive.)
Because of this, testing is extremely slow. (Overheating results in an immediate automatic power cut.)
At any rate, the mod is effectively ready.
I'll be packaging and releasing this thing very soon.
Edit : Since some people are having a hard time finding stuff, and, to be frank, I'd have problems finding stuff if I didn't make it myself, I'll need to cook up a simple manual so people know what's where (along with what they do) without going through the entire menu system several times over.
With the mod...
Fleet/escort scripts are in a state I'd consider release-worthy.
Movement - specifically, booster usage - has been fine tuned so it's seamless as possible, and doesn't send ships speeding into the unknown regions of space anymore.
Ships boosting around like crazy within the same zone should no longer happen. (They WILL use boosters when their escort target is also boosting, or when they need to close distance. However, they will only do so when they are properly aligned.)
Issuing the "move forward #km" command will make the ship boost.
Attacking targets...well, until I stop using the vanilla combat scripts (which EgoSoft had the courtesy to break even more with 1.30) the "attack target" command will be limited to targets that have relation values low enough to be considered an "enemy". (-10 or lower)
...What did they do to the combat scripts? Well, someone decided to remove the 2 lines of code that told capital ships to fire their non-turret weapons. (Novadrones for Balors and IHC for Sucelluses.)
If it had to be done because it interfered with some new important function, it could be forgiven. (COULD, not would.)
Nope, all they added was one line that gives a list of additional targets to the DRONES. Oh, and only once when they launch. No updates on the target list after that.
Wow, it's such a vast improvement that totally justifies losing the ability to fire off signature main weapons! ...Not.
With my laptop...
This thing's a few years old, and while it's still powerful enough to run most games at reasonably high fidelity presets, it's been suffering abnormal and severe overheating issues for about a week or two.
(MSI GT680R. i7-2630QM CPU, 10GB RAM, Geforce GTX460M VGA...still fairly powerful.)
I'm guessing the thermal compound on the heatsink module has dried out or something like that, since cleaning all the dust and setting the fan to max still results in overheating when playing games.
(I'm SO glad this thing has that button for putting the fan on overdrive.)
Because of this, testing is extremely slow. (Overheating results in an immediate automatic power cut.)
At any rate, the mod is effectively ready.
I'll be packaging and releasing this thing very soon.
Edit : Since some people are having a hard time finding stuff, and, to be frank, I'd have problems finding stuff if I didn't make it myself, I'll need to cook up a simple manual so people know what's where (along with what they do) without going through the entire menu system several times over.
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Been using UFO (Mainly to get ships to come to my position, not 35km away) and suspect it's the cause of some phenomenal drone spam near one of my stations that has enemies nearby.
Going to give MCE a go once I 'remove' UFO.
BTW, which scrip did they mod to kill Balor and Sucellus main guns. I have an idea I want to try.
Going to give MCE a go once I 'remove' UFO.
BTW, which scrip did they mod to kill Balor and Sucellus main guns. I have an idea I want to try.
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Berserk Knight
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Well, v0.16 is out now.
Hopefully I can cook up new combat scripts before the next patch.
It's the only script they use for capitals.
Hopefully I can cook up new combat scripts before the next patch.
fight.attack.object.capitalJakesnake5 wrote:Been using UFO (Mainly to get ships to come to my position, not 35km away) and suspect it's the cause of some phenomenal drone spam near one of my stations that has enemies nearby.
Going to give MCE a go once I 'remove' UFO.
BTW, which scrip did they mod to kill Balor and Sucellus main guns. I have an idea I want to try.
It's the only script they use for capitals.
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Hi there, installed the new version (as well as the dependency) using nexus mod manager..
When I go in-game I get the following in my mission manager.
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/328 ... 943618AC0/
Is this normal?
When I go in-game I get the following in my mission manager.
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/328 ... 943618AC0/
Is this normal?
FINALLY! Attack commands are working again and my arawn has a sense once again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGZoyG6w5Ng
Probably the best and most important mod out there right now!
PS:
I found a small bug i think. After i installed your mods new version, i keep getting 2 MCE generic missions called "MCE Target" and "MCE Mass Selection". Any idea why? Are these some kind of tutorial?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGZoyG6w5Ng
Probably the best and most important mod out there right now!
PS:
I found a small bug i think. After i installed your mods new version, i keep getting 2 MCE generic missions called "MCE Target" and "MCE Mass Selection". Any idea why? Are these some kind of tutorial?
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Berserk Knight
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Those 2 missions are intended, and are normal.
After setting the MCE Target and playing the game for a loooooong time, you have a high chance of forgetting what the target was.
(Unless you own the ship and renamed it specifically.)
Same goes for the MCE Mass Selection, and it also has an additional problem of you not knowing exactly what's in the selection when you pop an AOE select.
An example for the Mass Selection.
You have 10 ships in a 10km-ish sphere centered around one central ship.
However, one of them is constantly shifting around, and keeps going in and out of the 10km mark.
(And the fact that it's doing this happens to be barely noticeable from a distance.)
You use Mass Selection to select ships within 10km radius of the central ship.
You presume all of them have been selected, but that one ship that was constantly moving was apparantly just outside the 10km range on the moment the selection was processed.
Sometime after issuing an order, you notice that one of your ships isn't following orders.
You'd have no clue why it's not responding to Mass Commands.
Those kind of situations are what the missions try to prevent by telling you exactly what you have selected.
Aside from pointing to the current target/selection, it doesn't do anything.
(Well, they do double as an under the hood cleanup when things get destroyed, but that's it.)
As I said, it's perfectly normal for those missions to appear.
No need to be alarmed.
After setting the MCE Target and playing the game for a loooooong time, you have a high chance of forgetting what the target was.
(Unless you own the ship and renamed it specifically.)
Same goes for the MCE Mass Selection, and it also has an additional problem of you not knowing exactly what's in the selection when you pop an AOE select.
An example for the Mass Selection.
You have 10 ships in a 10km-ish sphere centered around one central ship.
However, one of them is constantly shifting around, and keeps going in and out of the 10km mark.
(And the fact that it's doing this happens to be barely noticeable from a distance.)
You use Mass Selection to select ships within 10km radius of the central ship.
You presume all of them have been selected, but that one ship that was constantly moving was apparantly just outside the 10km range on the moment the selection was processed.
Sometime after issuing an order, you notice that one of your ships isn't following orders.
You'd have no clue why it's not responding to Mass Commands.
Those kind of situations are what the missions try to prevent by telling you exactly what you have selected.
Aside from pointing to the current target/selection, it doesn't do anything.
(Well, they do double as an under the hood cleanup when things get destroyed, but that's it.)
As I said, it's perfectly normal for those missions to appear.
No need to be alarmed.
Well... sir you are a hero for X:R players.
A manual is very welcome because i just get the mass selection command reading your last post.
there's menus everywhere and this UI is so awful !
typing 2-4-1-5-4 to order a ship to move in a sector is horrible. even worse if you have to do that to 15 ships.
So thank you ! and nice job !
A manual is very welcome because i just get the mass selection command reading your last post.
there's menus everywhere and this UI is so awful !
typing 2-4-1-5-4 to order a ship to move in a sector is horrible. even worse if you have to do that to 15 ships.
So thank you ! and nice job !
Okay, i tried to play with these two missions and they work as you have mentioned.
But i have some feedback.
-When you use "Reset target/remove selection" i think the two generic MCE missions should be removed from the mission screen.
-Whenever you finish another mission, you will get a "Wait MCE target" mission assign. I think you should only get these MCE mission by selecting them manually, can you somehow disable the automatic mission selection on them?
Next to that, i love your update. I even stopped playing this game, when the old MCE and later your MCE version stopped working.
But i have some feedback.
-When you use "Reset target/remove selection" i think the two generic MCE missions should be removed from the mission screen.
-Whenever you finish another mission, you will get a "Wait MCE target" mission assign. I think you should only get these MCE mission by selecting them manually, can you somehow disable the automatic mission selection on them?
Next to that, i love your update. I even stopped playing this game, when the old MCE and later your MCE version stopped working.
Hey Berserk, was curious if you think you could do something like Mad Joker did, with UFO. Meaning, could you add a UI like he did to make things easier to set up? You could have multiple fleets, easy to set up UI and easy command structure with the UI mad joker made with ufo. Would be awesome if it could be implemented with MCE.