For whole "target audience" and mr. L Bernd

[rpek32]

Someone said: metacritic unfair, someone said, desctructoid unfair too. So here compilation of many review magazines, so you can read it all.


thanks to FuryFlex from steam community for compilating all reviews http://steamcommunity.com/app/2870/disc ... 079441/#p1

[Review Links] ALL reviewers agree--X:R is terrible.
If you're thinking of buying this game, then stop, just STOP. Just skim this post. It's probably too long to read all the way through, but you'll get the idea. There are a lot of reviews out, and literally no reviewer has scored X Rebirth above 50%.

NOTE that these are ALL of the X Rebirth reviews I can find. I am NOT just picking the bad ones...they're just ALL bad.

Gamespot - 2 / 10 Terrible
"I am unsure how to begin describing its failures."
http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/x-rebir ... 0-6415614/

Destructoid - 2.5 / 10
"A disaster. Any good qualities it might have had are quickly swallowed up by glitches, poor design choices or a plethora of other issues. The desperate or the gullible may find a glimmer of fun hidden somewhere in the pit."
http://www.destructoid.com/review-x-reb ... 7065.phtml

Games.on.net - "Do Not Buy This Game"
"I’m done with this game. I’ve had enough. My reserves of willpower and my fortitude for being screwed over are spent. No more."
http://games.on.net/2013/12/x-rebirth-r ... -ragequit/

Igromania.ru - 4 / 10
(Russian language, via Google Translator):
After seven years Egosoft has contrived only a pathetic shadow of previous X games... Knowing the developers, we are almost sure that someday they'll fix it, but it is unlikely soon. Until then, play something better, for example, X3: Terran Conflict with the XRM mod.
http://www.igromania.ru/articles/220819/X_Rebirth.htm

Strategy Informer - 4 / 10
"considering Egosoft were making such a radical departure they could have at least made sure it all worked properly. One to come back to in a couple of months, perhaps, and if you’re still deadest on picking this up, then try and wait for a sale or something at least. Sorry, Egosoft, but better luck next time."
http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/xreb ... eview.html

incgamers - 2 / 10
"I didn’t think anything would be able to top SimCity and Total War: Rome II’s abysmal launches, but somehow, someway, Egosoft has managed it with X Rebirth."
http://www.incgamers.com/2013/11/x-rebirth-review/2

Cheatmasters - 5 / 10
"For a reboot that is supposed to be easier to learn and play, it hasn’t done very well so far. But most of all, this game is bugged and unpolished to high heaven."
http://www.cheatmasters.com/blog/2013/1 ... th-review/

PCGamesN - 3 / 10
"It’s a universe filled with boring people living on boring space stations, and playing in this universe is, unsurprisingly, really bloody boring. There’s not one thing that X Rebirth does that Albion Prelude or, indeed, any of the X games doesn’t do better beyond a few visual treats."
http://www.pcgamesn.com/x-rebirth-pc-review

Gamestar.de - 44 / 100
(German language, via Google Translator):
"...the space simulation has too many inherent weaknesses, starting with the crude control and confusing menus on the boring commercial flights and combat missions up to the too tight game universe."
http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/x-rebirth ... 30496.html

IGN - 4.3 / 10 BAD
"Doing anything in X Rebirth is like spending twenty minutes looking for your car keys and wallet before getting stuck in gridlock on your way to a store that probably doesn't even have what you want."
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/12/02/x-rebirth-review

Just Push Start - 4.9 / 10
"All in all, X Rebirth is a great shame – there’s a great engine here with a lot of wonderful art assets, but a few strange bits of design direction bring it down. In this review I’ve tried to be constructive and I hope that changes like those I have suggested take place, at least in part. If Egosoft make good on their pledge to support the title then in a few months this may well be worth playing, but in its current state I simply can’t recommend that anyone buy this, especially with the current price tag..."
http://www.justpushstart.com/2013/11/x- ... -review/3/

3DJuegos - 3.5 / 10
(Spanish language, via Google Translator):
"With a large legacy behind them, the X series of space simulators returns after several years of waiting and big promises involved. Unfortunately, the end result is not only far from expected for any fan of the series, X Rebirth is not even a good game."
http://www.3djuegos.com/juegos/analisis ... x-rebirth/

PCGMedia - 50 / 100
Here’s the problem, then: if you’re an X purist, I already know you’re furious. If you’re a new-comer, you’re stuck. Riddled with bugs and with no proper manual of any use or tutorial, you’ll be spending all of your time wondering if its you messing everything up, or one of the many game-breaking issues. Voice acting, scripting, performance, bugs, and all the good things aside, X-Rebirth is only worth it if you have the patience of a saint. I literally mean: this game requires more patience than any game that has ever been developed in the history of gaming.
http://pcgmedia.com/video-game-review/x-rebirth-review/

GEAR - 5 / 10
Space: the final frontier. Well at least that’s what we’re always told. For X: Rebirth however, it’s more the frustrating frontier; the infuriating frontier; the… you’ve got to be freaking kidding me, 20 hours in and my save game is corrupted and I have to start again… frontier. So I’m sorry Egosoft but not again, no dice.
http://g3ar.co.za/review/x-rebirth-pc/

Eurogamer (Poland) - 3 / 10
(Polish language, via Google Translator):
X Rebirth is a title which in its present state can not be recommended. The few positive elements are buried under dozens of problems and misguided solutions that make the game boring and uninteresting.
http://www.eurogamer.pl/articles/2013-1 ... h-recenzja

Roguey's review - 4/10
So all in all, its not another x-game. Much of the depth of the original games has been reduced or even removed, sometimes leading to more confusion. In time Egosoft will fix all the bugs, but this still means there are bad design concepts. Maybe in time Egosoft and/or mod teams can sort out the issues but with the £40 price-mark the game should of done so much more.
http://roguey.co.uk/gaming/game-442/review.html

Zombies Ate My Games - "poorly written and incredibly unreliable"
"If this is going to be your first X game, you honestly might as well just buy X3: Terran Conflict and the Blade Runner OST, it’s about £20 cheaper and will actually work. Other wise, look out for a deal because this isn’t worth the full price."
http://zombiesatemygames.com/games/x-rebirth/

4players.de - 16%
(German language, via Google Translator):
"...the extent of the current program error destroys the experience: X Rebirth is over long distances unplayable. The bugs range from constant annoyances about crashes to the brake pads, which prevent progress. And what rating I can give a game on, it just does not work? Yes, this X is insufficient. A stillbirth."
http://www.4players.de/4players.php/dis ... index.html
Link for Google's English translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... index.html

Rock, Paper, Shotgun - "an appalling, broken mess"
Some choice quotes:
"Even when I’m going out of my way to admire it, it lets me down."
"Yisha, your constant companion, is honestly the most annoying character I’ve ever had to deal with in a game."
"I just wrote 285 words describing all the ways a simple delivery mission messed up. It gets worse."
"...in comparison to X3′s selection of ships with multiple hardpoints, this is nothing but a dirty little smear of space dust."
"I’m getting depressed just writing this out. It doesn’t include all the little bugs..."
"Don’t dare to dream, people. You’ll only end up hurt like I was."
"The only hours I’ve lost to Rebirth are the ones that I had to claw back from various crashes."
"It’s an appalling, broken mess, and I’m not going back."
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/11 ... x-rebirth/

Bit-Tech - 35%
"We could go on, and of course we did go on, for far longer than this game frankly deserves. But this four-hour segment of our time with X Rebirth epitomises our entire experience. Rebirth is an incredible thing to look at, and as a universe to explore and do battle in it is certainly enjoyable, but almost every other aspect of the game is either currently broken or shoddily executed. "
http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/pc/2013/ ... h-review/1

Gamefront - 47 / 100
"There’s a chance that patches, tweaks, mods and possibly even expansions might salvage this game over time, but right now, there’s really nothing here worth playing. If you’re willing to watch some YouTube tutorials or look up a guide, then X3 is still your best bet for scratching that freelancing space-rogue itch."
http://www.gamefront.com/x-rebirth-revi ... -vacuum/3/

Undead Rufus - 2.5 / 5
"There is a hint of greatness hidden beneath the mess we currently have, and the question going forward is whether that greatness will be brought out or forgotten."
http://undeadrufus.com/?p=921

Worlds Factory - 43 / 100
"X: Rebirth is a glitchy mess at the moment, making it difficult to give it a proper overview. When it works, it's fun, however, that is a rare occasion and something which is unforgivable for a game which is released. What is clear is that X: Rebirth is not fit for sale at the moment, but I haven't written this game off just yet."
http://www.worldsfactory.net/2013/11/20 ... -be-damned

Giant Eye - "I’m Done With Pre-orders"
"There are a few things I like, it is generally a very pretty game when you’re in space and the combat is also very pretty. I like the exploration aspect and the more seamless nature of the game world you inhabit. But these few things are no-where near enough to make this anywhere close to a good game."
http://thegianteye.com/x-rebirth-review ... re-orders/

Technology Tell - C
"Thing is: as it stands right now, the game feels unfinished. It’s also extraordinarily buggy. The 7 year development cycle shows in the dated graphics engine, but doesn’t show at all in other areas. Sometimes I have to wonder what exactly it was Egosoft spent 7 years doing, because there are so many things in the game that feel very rushed out the door. I have had to restart the campaign twice now due to game-breaking glitches that made progress impossible. I have yet to be able to finish the story because it just keeps breaking. I have seen the AI bug out and lock up several times, interface elements like the map screen just feel like somebody gave up trying, and they only ever designed one station interior."
http://www.technologytell.com/gaming/12 ... re-reborn/

Connected Digital World - 2 / 5
"There are some cool new features to Rebirth but they’re all implemented too badly to feel like part of the game. And they all hinder other features that made X3 so great. If your [sic] looking to buy a game in the X universe, X3 is still the one to get."
http://connecteddigitalworld.com/2013/1 ... x-rebirth/

duuro.net - 23%
I think the review title pretty much says it: "X-Rebirth? More like X-SHSD as in Should Have Stayed DEAD!" Some of the things in there make me suspect that this reviewer isn't a long-time X player, but then again neither is everyone who will play this game.
http://duuro.net/x-rebirth-review/

Quarter to Three - 20%
Despite the score, this is arguably the most favorable review, by virtue of not being abandoned midway through due to insurmountable problems with the game.
http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2013/1 ... rent-true/

pcgames.de - 39%, review aborted
(In German, via Google translator): "We have decided as of today to abort the test at this point..." They gave a 39% score anyway. User score there is 44%.
http://www.pcgames.de/X-Rebirth-PC-2368 ... 1098016/2/

Rock, Paper, Shotgun - "missed by a mile"
This is a "first impression", not a proper review, but it's very negative, e.g. "This is a real problem that extends throughout the game, not only because it impinges on whatever immersion they’re aiming for (and missed by a mile), but because it has actively hurt my understanding of what’s going on." and, "if there’s a game under all this ‘immersion’, I intend to find it."
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/11 ... h-preview/

Amazon - two thirds of reviewers gave 1 star
Fully two-thirds of Amazon reviewers (20 of 30) have given Rebirth the lowest possible score, 1 star. The weighted average comes out to just below 2 stars. You could call that a 39%, but since it's not possible to assign zero stars, another way of describing it would be "19% higher than the theoretical minimum".
http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews ... ewpoints=1

Metacritic user score - 3.3 / 10
The user score has been steadily falling since release.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/x-rebirth

I'll update this post as more reviews are made available. Yes, even if they're favorable ones.
Последний раз отредактировал FuryFlex; 12 дек @ 15:59

[werewolves?]

It's all subjective in the end. I find a lot of games that rate 9/10 boring as anything and have never finished them but enjoy Rebirth despite it's problems.

It probably depends on your attitude going into the game and what you enjoy doing.

[ThommoHawk]

^ It would be so nice if Bernd would read all these during his XMAS break, as he has been so dismissive of both the old fanbase, and the new (very short lived) fanbase here.

Bernd is the CEO, Managing Director, of Egosoft, which means he IS Egosoft, and he IS XRebirth and so is responsible for this fubar state of the game, and needs to recognise that it is going nowhere fast, despite in being up to his elbows in bugfuxes. Tackle the basic design flaws or LET the game DIE.

The way I look at it is; sometimes your vision and ambition may exceed your talent or capacity to make a good implementation of a great idea. Sometimes you just gotta know when to move on. This is my fancy way of saying; If you have bitten off more than you can chew, then spit it out or you'll choke to death.

It's all subjective in the end. I find a lot of games that rate 9/10 boring as anything and have never finished them but enjoy Rebirth despite it's problems.

It probably depends on your attitude going into the game and what you enjoy doing.

^ could someone please make up a similar list of positive reviews that recommend this XRebirth? The significance of the sheer number of negative reviews can't be glossed over as 'oh it's just all subjective in the end'. I beg to differ; It is all practical advice in the end that influences sales. BOTTOM LINE stuff here we are talking about, y'know, survival and all that stuff ...

[Sam L.R. Griffiths]

It's all subjective in the end. I find a lot of games that rate 9/10 boring as anything and have never finished them but enjoy Rebirth despite it's problems.

It probably depends on your attitude going into the game and what you enjoy doing.

^ could someone please make up a similar list of positive reviews that recommend this XRebirth? The significance of the sheer number of negative reviews can't be glossed over as 'oh it's just all subjective in the end'. I beg to differ; It is all practical advice in the end that influences sales. BOTTOM LINE stuff here we are talking about, y'know, survival and all that stuff ...

Let us be honest here... X-Rebirth at release was a glitchy mess (no ifs, buts, or maybes there) and to a certain degree it still is BUT it is improving with Egosoft's efforts.

The media (and especially reviewers) are a mercurial lot - if it were not for the quality of the release I think we would be seeing a different review landscape.

But in any case, werewolves? is right - it is all rather subjective in the main where any review is concerned since it is based on opinions and perceptions on the most part.

What is obvious to me is that the bulk of the problems covered by the reviews which quite rightly IMO resulted in the low scores were the result of the poor level of QA on the release.

But although things are better now than they were at release it is probably still too early to launch another round of reviews/re-reviews.

[rpek32]

But although things are better now than they were at release it is probably still too early to launch another round of reviews/re-reviews.

you can deal wit bugs, even broken scrips (cuz they will be fixed sooner or later). but how you deal with annoying UI?

[dzhedzho]

It's all subjective in the end. I find a lot of games that rate 9/10 boring as anything and have never finished them but enjoy Rebirth despite it's problems.

It probably depends on your attitude going into the game and what you enjoy doing.

Well like-dislike is subjective.

Ships flying through stations, ships without docking bay, missing features like small ship repair, or way to recover from your construction ship being destroyed mid-construction and a number of other broken/missing features has nothing to do with my patience or taste.

[Sam L.R. Griffiths]

But although things are better now than they were at release it is probably still too early to launch another round of reviews/re-reviews.

you can deal wit bugs, even broken scrips (cuz they will be fixed sooner or later). but how you deal with annoying UI?

Whether a given UI design is annoying or not is pretty subjective, not everyone will find any given UI annoying/pleasing.

[Cronos988]

Whether a given UI design is annoying or not is pretty subjective, not everyone will find any given UI annoying/pleasing.

Everything is "pretty subjective". Some people think that the earth is flat, not everyone has to agree with something to make it "objective". If a single review is bad, that is a subjective opinion. If all the reviews, and all the user scores, and all the forum polls, are bad, then that's about as objective as it gets.

[werewolves?]

It's all subjective in the end. I find a lot of games that rate 9/10 boring as anything and have never finished them but enjoy Rebirth despite it's problems.

It probably depends on your attitude going into the game and what you enjoy doing.

Well like-dislike is subjective.

Ships flying through stations, ships without docking bay, missing features like small ship repair, or way to recover from your construction ship being destroyed mid-construction and a number of other broken/missing features has nothing to do with my patience or taste.

Don't care about most of those, they're pretty minor to me just like all the other stuff that people seem to be getting bizarrely emotional about, never had my construction ship blown up - if it did I would just reload a save...

[Sam L.R. Griffiths]

Whether a given UI design is annoying or not is pretty subjective, not everyone will find any given UI annoying/pleasing.

Everything is "pretty subjective". Some people think that the earth is flat, not everyone has to agree with something to make it "objective". If a single review is bad, that is a subjective opinion. If all the reviews, and all the user scores, and all the forum polls, are bad, then that's about as objective as it gets.

I think you missed my point - which was that I do not believe the game is in a fit state for a reviewer to make an objective assessment of the game. The bugs with the plot line and other areas are pretty bad.

[vargata]

Whether a given UI design is annoying or not is pretty subjective, not everyone will find any given UI annoying/pleasing.

Everything is "pretty subjective". Some people think that the earth is flat, not everyone has to agree with something to make it "objective". If a single review is bad, that is a subjective opinion. If all the reviews, and all the user scores, and all the forum polls, are bad, then that's about as objective as it gets.

I think you missed my point - which was that I do not believe the game is in a fit state for a reviewer to make an objective assessment of the game. The bugs with the plot line and other areas are pretty bad.

I think you miss the point all over and over again. nobody cares about bugs, nor us nor the reviews. the bad, nonfunctional design and the missing X feeling (not X4, simply X) is what wrong with this game both for players and reviewers. You can try defending it, it will not change the fact 90% of the buyers didnt start the game since the 3rd day after purchase...

[ThommoHawk]

^ +1

though all this subjective/objective stuff is irrelevant and hot air when it comes to Zero XRebirth sales. That is what matters. Shit game? = Shit sales (now the pre-order frenzy is over). Egosoft will care about that. Who are potential gamers most likely to pay attention to? Overwhelming numbers of 'not recommended' reviews by Xgamers on steam and independent web reviews?? or a few discussions about what is 'objective' or 'subjective'? WGAF?

[Cronos988]

I think you missed my point - which was that I do not believe the game is in a fit state for a reviewer to make an objective assessment of the game. The bugs with the plot line and other areas are pretty bad.

What you mean to say is that I didn't adress a different point that you made in a different post. Yes, I didn't adress that other point. But if you want me to, I can:

Reviews are supposed to be buyers guides. The aren't supposed to be "objective" (which is utterly impossible anyways), but to give people advice on what to buy. Hence reviewers need to review a game in the state it's currently in.

[Darrosquall]

Today is 16 december, a month has passed from the release.

All reviews are negative. Most of you don't change their vision, neither after a lot of patches.

So...This is the X:Rebirth forum.

There are a lot of section, about old X series, off topics, creative universe, script and modding...

You aren't anymore interested in Rebirth. So, what's the profit guys?

[Sam L.R. Griffiths]

I think you missed my point - which was that I do not believe the game is in a fit state for a reviewer to make an objective assessment of the game. The bugs with the plot line and other areas are pretty bad.

What you mean to say is that I didn't adress a different point that you made in a different post. Yes, I didn't adress that other point. But if you want me to, I can:

Reviews are supposed to be buyers guides. The aren't supposed to be "objective" (which is utterly impossible anyways), but to give people advice on what to buy. Hence reviewers need to review a game in the state it's currently in.

You missed my point by a long shot - the game was not really ready for review from a quality perspective - that alone is enough to jade any reviews.

Official reviews are typically a one-shot deal, and the premature release of X-Rebirth from a quality stand point is unfortunate, but now it is the past.

I have never bought (or not bought) a game based purely on what I have or have not read in a review, and I suspect that is true of many more people.

[EDIT]And no review is going to change my view point of something if I already have hands on experience with it.[/EDIT]

[birdtable]

Surely if a released game is not ready to be reviewed then it follows that it is also not ready to be released on the market.

[darkmul@gmail.com]

It's all subjective in the end. I find a lot of games that rate 9/10 boring as anything and have never finished them but enjoy Rebirth despite it's problems.

It probably depends on your attitude going into the game and what you enjoy doing.

I'm glad someone is having fun with this game, the truth is that they tried to take the game in a different direction but they failed, Bernd should take his money that he has gotten from this and disappear like any other crook would.

[Sam L.R. Griffiths]

Surely if a released game is not ready to be reviewed then it follows that it is also not ready to be released on the market.

Well that is generally the implication, but as I have said before it is water under the bridge and nothing can change what has happened.

The release was a big goof up, but things are improving. I suspect it will only be really in what I personally would consider a reviewable state perhaps in about 3 months time (maybe sooner or later depending on rate of progress).

Saying that, I do not regret buying the game and currently hold a neutral status on recommending it to anyone (basically if you want to help with it's evolution then fill ya boots but if you want a polished product then hang fire for a bit longer)

[Noimageavaiable]

The media (and especially reviewers) are a mercurial lot - if it were not for the quality of the release I think we would be seeing a different review landscape.

So you're saying if Egosoft had released a game that wasn't complete garbage, the reviews wouldn't call it complete garbage? Please, share more of these valuable insights dear Roger L.S. Obvious, perhaps you can explain the mystery of the darkness after sunset or the connection between touching a hot plate and painful burns.

[ThommoHawk]

Today is 16 december, a month has passed from the release.
All reviews are negative. Most of you don't change their vision, neither after a lot of patches.
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You aren't anymore interested in Rebirth. So, what's the profit guys?

^

1) aren't interested in Rebirth anymore? = wrong. very interested.

2) What's the profit? No profit at all, this looks like a free service provided by good forum members. Reviews and comments are posted by those who had the great privilege of paying to do so, through buying and experiencing XRebirth, (and some who have not, but are still interested).

People are posting 'negatives' here to let Egosoft know how the game is bad. And could be better, MAYBE.

Now, if they stopped posting these opinions, Egosoft would pretend that the game is good, and that everyone thinks it is A GREAT SUCCESS. That would NOT really help, would it?

@ Darrosquall, if you think this game is ok now because over this first month a few bug fixes have been rushed out, think again. If you have any past experience with Egosoft games, you will know by now that even two years later a game can still be 'getting fixed'. And XRebirth is the Mother Of All Things Buggy. And all things STUPID, maybe, and It may never get 'fixed'.

One of the other reasons people (newcomers and old) post is because they just can't believe this is really IT, Egosoft's TNBT.

I think the main reason they post is really; to assist Egosoft. Keep them informed. Most of the posts you don't like ("negative"), are not really here for contrary comments from players who "do like", good luck to them. Play play play play I say.