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Stars_InTheirEyes
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| pjknibbs wrote: |
| Merroc wrote: |
I'd ballpark it at 15 million. |
I wouldn't. We can probably assume that most people who bought X3TC registered on the forums, if only to get patches, and last time I checked there are only a little over 400k users on here. Even if every single one of them purchased the game at £30, you're looking at a total income of £12 million (approximately €16 million)--not only do Egosoft not get all of that money, but not all of the forum members purchased the game, and those that did might not have paid full price!
A company that spends €15 million developing a game and then gets maybe half that back in revenue wouldn't still be here, simple as that. |
You can also assume that many people who bought the game have not registered on the forum.
Edit: Think about it, how many game companies' forums do you register to when you buy a game?
I have games from many companies, and am only registered on this forum and that of EA. (EA only for tech support, very often needed..)
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| Posted: Fri, 10. Aug 12, 11:48 Post subject: |
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| Samuel Creshal wrote: |
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| Well, I know what I'm having for dinner tonight. |
Germans? |
I'm telling you, Sauerkraut doesn't nearly taste as good as everyone claims! |
But 'Rotkraut' in combination with 'Grüne Klöße' and 'Rouladen' is par excellence!
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pjknibbs
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| Posted: Fri, 10. Aug 12, 12:41 Post subject: |
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| Stars_InTheirEyes wrote: |
Edit: Think about it, how many game companies' forums do you register to when you buy a game?
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You have to register on the forums to download patches for X3TC, and how many PC gamers run their games without patching them?
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Bishop149
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| Posted: Fri, 10. Aug 12, 12:45 Post subject: |
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You have to register on the forums to download patches for X3TC, and how many PC gamers run their games without patching them? |
You might be surprised. . . quite a lot I'd wager.
I'm always surprised to the stats showing how many PC gamers use 10 year old GFX cards or still run Win98.
One of the X-games (think it was X3:R) was basically unplayable in its release state. For that one at least it probably valid to correlate registrations with sales.
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felter
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| Posted: Fri, 10. Aug 12, 13:56 Post subject: |
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Just want to throw in that the steam version will probably update itself without the need to have a egosoft account.
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mrbadger
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| Posted: Fri, 10. Aug 12, 14:05 Post subject: |
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I don't recall needing to register for X3:R updates, I didn't get it through Steam.
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Stars_InTheirEyes
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| Posted: Fri, 10. Aug 12, 14:12 Post subject: |
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| pjknibbs wrote: |
| You have to register on the forums to download patches for X3TC, and how many PC gamers run their games without patching them? |
As already said by felter, this does not apply to people who bought it through steam.
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A5PECT
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| Posted: Fri, 10. Aug 12, 15:04 Post subject: |
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| pjknibbs wrote: |
| You have to register on the forums to download patches for X3TC, and how many PC gamers run their games without patching them? |
I just logged out and downloaded the latest TC patch just fine.
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Ketraar
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| Posted: Fri, 10. Aug 12, 16:34 Post subject: |
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Some mixing up happening. To download updates no registration was needed, it was/is required for (some) bonus material.
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AdrianM
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| Posted: Fri, 10. Aug 12, 18:12 Post subject: |
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Lets send the IRS (the german version) to check all these numbers 
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Merroc
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| Posted: Fri, 10. Aug 12, 19:39 Post subject: |
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| pjknibbs wrote: |
| Stars_InTheirEyes wrote: |
Edit: Think about it, how many game companies' forums do you register to when you buy a game?
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You have to register on the forums to download patches for X3TC, and how many PC gamers run their games without patching them? |
Indeed, no need to register for patches as I remember. Either steam does it or you have to manually select the correct version. Well, at any rate, this was the case for X2...  .
As for the ballpark. I estimated 20 FTE over 4 years, I doubt that's the case in at least the first 2 years. Perhaps a bit more in the 4th. And as salary is the biggest factor, it's really a rough ballpark.
Still your view on revenues is logical and I had not thought of it that way. Then again I was distracted mid writing.
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pjknibbs
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| Posted: Sat, 11. Aug 12, 07:03 Post subject: |
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It certainly used to be the case that you had to have a forum account to download X3TC patches--I don't know when that changed. Steam does mess up the figures somewhat, you're right there; however, we know X is a niche game, so the number of units sold is not going to be anything close to, say, CoD4!
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