[PROGRAM] Plugin Manager : V1.47 : 24/07/2012

[Phinixa]

yeah did it. But the problem were the fake-patches. I fixed the numeration and deleted 1 incompatible mod and now it works correctly^^

[Sesk]

Woo, I come back to play X3AP, and what do I find? Plugin Manager update.

Good going, keep up the good work.

EDIT: This particular version of the Plugin Manager seems unable to handle large (600mb+) package / mod files.

I created a XRM package and it crashed the package installer when trying to install it, seems it partially installed the files (it created the cat, not the dat, the director files, screen files and scripts/t). Tested it with an other package with just the cat/dat files, tried as fake-patch and mods.

Opening the created .pck in the package creator gives this exception:

[Cycrow]

do you know if its worked in a previous version of the plugin manager ?

[Antagonistic]

Anyone can confirm this before I update?

EDIT: Nevermind, I see 3 confirmations on last page. Weird that it wasn't showing. Will update now.

Also, Cycrow: What is the reason XRM, a pretty good mod, suggests NOT using the X Plugin Manager? It says on its thread it is because of lack of control of load ordering, which to my untrained eye X Plugin Manager does support? Is it because it doesn't get picked up as a fake patch? Something which far as I know gets fixed via a simple rename. Is it some deeper issue or politics?

I would have liked to use a single tool to install and maintain all the mods and patches I use, so I find it unfortunate that I have to use this hybrid approach to get it all working.

[Cycrow]

i dont know the reason it suggests that, its best to ask in the thread and find out.

it could just be a lack of knowledge of what the plugin manager is capable of doing.

[Antagonistic]

Hmm, can I suggest one enhancement? The ability to convert any mod into a 'fake patch' mod. I know this can break some stuff, but there are a lot of mods out there with the installation instructions explicitly calling for a fake patch install method, but is not automatically identified as a fake patch mod by the plugin manager.

Right click and tick 'Install as fake patch' on the Mod Lists menu or something perhaps.

If there is an easy way to do the equivalent without needing to repackage the mod I don't know of it.

[Cycrow]

if you add the mods to a spk file you can already do this.
just open it up in the Creator, right click on either the cat or dat file and select switch to fake patch, and it'll convert both files.

althou big mods are generally better installed as proper mods rather than fake patches, just a shame most decide to release as fake patches instead

[Antagonistic]

Well, I can see WHY they would do it with fake patches.

Look at IEX with XRM compatibility:
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=312645

Mod order:
IE
IEX
XRM Part 1
XRM Part 2
Any optional XRM packs but NOT the Backgrounds pack
XRMi

Making the big mod a proper mod in this case will prevent XRMi from providing compatibility changes, as well as remove the option of having optional XRM packs (since I assume the proper mod gets loaded last, meaning no big mod mods!).

MARS and CODEA compatibility changes are reasonably common for big mods far as I've seen, so this approach while not ideal, certainly has its reasons.


I'll try your 'add to spk, switch to fake patch' route in a bit, but my suggestion stands for the ability to do this without using the Creator. Can't always rely on modders to package their mods ideally and I would consider making a mod a fake patch something that a reasonable number of users would need to do at some point or another if they download lots of mods.

And maybe a button on the menu somewhere of the lite version that switches to advanced, without needing to relaunch with the command line option.

[Sesk]

[jwrealing]

Thanks Cycrow for the quick fix, 1.47 up and running.

[Antagonistic]

I can not reproduce Sesk's issue on old or new Plugin Manager. Mine just works. I do package it as a .spk and not a .pck though, does that matter?

Else, I hava a 64-bit CPU and OS.

But yeah, repackage mods, convert to false patch, use advanced menu to sort false patch order -> Works like a charm.

Plus now I should be okay next patch that adds a new cat/dat without too much worries.

[Sesk]

[TonyEvans]

Cycow I'm still having the problem of my plugin manager not detecting/acknolwedging AP's existence, or giving me the optino to choose AP. I select the AP launcher icon and let it run through, but it only gives TC.

[Cycrow]

[Cycrow]