[SCR] Personnel Transporter [7th May 2010 X³:TC 3.3.01]

Saetan · Post by **Saetan** » Sun, 6. Feb 11, 21:01

schutzengel wrote:2. Maybe also a list of what we "need" to run the ship. I know you can check what you need to activate the MOSFET system, but that's the only one I could find. It'd be nice to see that and the Codea all in one place, maybe even list their efficiency for fun

Here's a list of a description for the different jobs: Military Transport

PS: "Schutzengel" is a German name ... do you speak German as native language? If so, you are aware of that Lucike is German and any script of him is released and descriped in German firstly?

schutzengel · Post by **schutzengel** » Mon, 7. Feb 11, 07:08

Hehe... Yeah, I know its german, but no I don't speak it. I can read some of it, enough to understand whats going on anyway

but anyway, I know there's a list here, I just meant it might be nice to have a 'crew status' page I can look at on each of my ships. I think it would be a convenient and simple change, just so I can see how many gunners I have in my ship, verses how many of them are actually working, or how many more I need.

It would be a nice touch I think

Saetan · Post by **Saetan** » Mon, 7. Feb 11, 10:26

MEFOS has such a list, as you already posted by yourself (or, did you mean somethin' else with MOSFET

) ... for all the other personnel, it's all optional for additional functionality. As also only one of each can be used at the same time, I've never missed such a list.

Ok, mechanics for CODEA can be used also in an larger amount, but that only affects repair times and the amount of fighters which can be repaired at once. One of them is enough to start repairing anyway.

You can see them all in your cargo bay, for the case that you have more jobs (specialists like helmsmen, machinists and navigators) of the same type at once on board, the active ones even gets colored in green to prevent you from accidentially moving the wrong to another ship.

schutzengel · Post by **schutzengel** » Mon, 7. Feb 11, 23:39

Gah! I know I know.... I was just saying I thought it would be neat... Even if it's a little repetitive

It just kinda reminded me of the crew lists in a game called 3000Ad (i think) where you had a crew, even doctors and stuff... You could tell them to go different places on the ship and check to see what they were up to. Like at work, sleeping, in the rec room... It was kinda neat

I know that it probably won't happen for this game, but I though a 'CREW STATUS REPORT' command might make me feel more like a real captain, instead of digging through the cargo bay of each ship and comparing it to the Mefos and calculating how many people I need to make CODEA run faster... just my opinion though, Having one button to do it for me...

Anyway... Just a random though occurred to me... maybe we could hire doctors and crew could get injured during battles.... Ignore me if I'm being annoying,

but it might make it more involving...

Captsavmhoe · Post by **Captsavmhoe** » Fri, 11. Feb 11, 15:58

hi there its me again im getting the hang of the script now with some time to mess with it ,i do have some more ? about changing professions and or after hiting the hre buttons the selection.

when docked at a station and or outpost when i hit the hire button i dont get any listings/bullitin boards i just get a blank screen but at that point i can select said profession ie freighter pilot and then hit hire as meny times as i want then i gets the said pilots .may be normal not sure didnt look like it in the screen shots but either way i get choices then i keep who i want and fire the others .meaning i can only see said choices after i hire them .next is and i have looked and i have choices for travel and travel agent and also one for technician on board ? i know what technitions are for but whats the differance and whats travel and travel agent for ?

also ive been reading these forums for yrs and have seen alot of help being done by Saetan and want to say thank for for all the help i see in these forums from u and the time u take to reanswer alot of these posts .

Thanks again.

Saetan · Post by **Saetan** » Sat, 12. Feb 11, 02:09

Captsavmhoe wrote:when docked at a station and or outpost when i hit the hire button i dont get any listings/bullitin boards i just get a blank screen but at that point i can select said profession ie freighter pilot and then hit hire as meny times as i want then i gets the said pilots .may be normal not sure didnt look like it in the screen shots but either way i get choices then i keep who i want and fire the others .meaning i can only see said choices after i hire them .next is and i have looked and i have choices for travel and travel agent and also one for technician on board ? i know what technitions are for but whats the differance and whats travel and travel agent for ?

Not sure, if I got you right (did read it already at afternoon, but didn't get it at all ... guess I was to tired).

Seems to be not ok for me too, did you already tried a re-install of the most recent script versions and which scripts did you install at all?

Also, maybe screenshots would help, if your problem still persists.

For the travel agent, I'm not sure as I didn't played for a long time now. But Lucike is working at a script to transport people between stations or something like that. Maybe thats the personnel for that script, but it's not finished yet.

Hope I was able to help
Best regards,
Saetan

jernau11 · Post by **jernau11** » Mon, 25. Apr 11, 17:01

Hi Saetan,

Were helmsmen changed to no longer work on M6s? I just trained a marine up enough to make helmsman rank and had him sit on my Springblossom overnight. The navigator and machinist that were placed with him are working, (+.6 maneuverability, 16 speed increase, both green colored) but the helmsman's color hasn't changed.

Triaxx2 · Post by **Triaxx2** » Mon, 25. Apr 11, 18:30

Working fine for me. Does it possibly already have one? Try transferring everyone off, and then back on.

jernau11 · Post by **jernau11** » Wed, 27. Apr 11, 21:59

I transferred people around a lot till it finally stuck. It took a while with the wait. Now the same thing is happening with a TM of mine.

jernau11 · Post by **jernau11** » Thu, 28. Apr 11, 19:34

Update: Ok I did some testing with this. It looks to me as if the retrain marine/change regular occupation interface has a bug. I think its assigning people with multiple trainings as navigator, helmsman, or machinist, but the code that registers them as "green" and doing that job doesn't accept them.

I'm running Lucike's Script Collection, and eEQDocks, as well as x-plugin manager, improved boarding, hotkey manager, and ware manager.

Saetan · Post by **Saetan** » Thu, 28. Apr 11, 21:54

I don't know of and never heard of such a bug ... maybe a corrupt file installation? Did you already try to re-install Lucike's scripts?

jernau11 · Post by **jernau11** » Fri, 29. Apr 11, 07:04

I've done everything short of formatting and reinstalling windows. Earlier today I removed everything, uninstalled x3 tc, and deleted the install folder. Then I reinstalled everything including Lucike's scripts. Only thing I couldn't get rid of was the X3 Plugin Manager (no uninstall yet). I started a new game and used the cheats/SETA to re-setup the test.

The result was the same issue. Its my machinist this time. The navigator and helmsman that boarded the ship at the same time are working fine.

Not sure if google translate/I'm reading this correctly but this seems to be the same problem: xuniversium forum

Update: I did some more testing on this to see if another crew member was somehow blocking the machinist's improvement. I don't think it is. I stripped down the crew completely, then left only the same navigator, helmsman and machinist. I ran SETA for 10 minutes and both the Nav and Helms started working, the lazy machinist didn't.

I then switched helms, machin, and nav's jobs around. The Machinist who is now a navigator is still refusing to do his job. Switched them again with the buggy person as helmsman, same issue. The control variables (nav and mach) worked fine. I finally transferred the bugged person to a carrier as a recruit, stuck them in a cockpit and they registered as Tracy Fisty-N, i.e. navigator. Clearly some part of the script understands that she is trained as a navigator even if she refuses to do the job.

Really seems like the problem is with the retrain marines/change occupation functions, for some reason with some marines, their new job just doesn't stick.

Bobisback · Post by **Bobisback** » Wed, 7. Dec 11, 02:27

has Flight Instructor's been added yet?

Saetan · Post by **Saetan** » Wed, 7. Dec 11, 19:42

As far as I know ... and I just checked Lucikes own Forum ... Flight Instructors aren't usable yet.

baddoctor · Post by **baddoctor** » Mon, 7. May 12, 14:20

I think I'm having some problems getting this script to work.

I installed this after one of my level 5 ESTs got popped and I wanted to put the pilot in a new ship. So far I've rescued the pilot, dropped him in the hold of an Argon Express, and docked both the express and an EST-ready Mistral at the same station. I believe I'm supposed to see an extra option on the Express' command console (unfortunately the instruction images in the op are all dead), but I only get the standard commands, with no oprion to transfer the pilot across.

I've tried reinstalling the script, and checked that I have the prerequsite libraries installed. Is there something I'm missing?

Saetan · Post by **Saetan** » Mon, 7. May 12, 15:01

You'll find the command of the personnel transporters as so called "additional commands". See Lucike's website for more information.

baddoctor · Post by **baddoctor** » Thu, 10. May 12, 10:11

Many thanks - I've found it now.

mechm0343 · Post by **mechm0343** » Sun, 10. Jun 12, 04:45

Hello,
Ive been using a lot of lucike's scripts with ablion prelude and up to this point have not had a problem with any of them. Not sure if it has something to do with AP or if im just doing it wrong.

I was searching the universe for machinists and found them to be pretty rare on transporters so I decided to train a couple of my own. I took a marine with the proper training and set him as a EST to get his 10 hours flight and then retrained him. The problem is he wont go active on my ship. the one I found on the military transport will go active after and hour but the one I trained up wont go green.

I took some screenshots and threw together what I thought was all the needed info.

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the helmsan and navigator I hired from the transport so im not sure if training them works or not but poor Nil Jerigan there just isnt getting his job done.
Is it because im using AP or am I just missing something totally different?

Saetan · Post by **Saetan** » Sun, 10. Jun 12, 19:46

Mhmm, on first sight it seems you did everything right to re-train your personnel.

If it's a error with AP itself, with a wrong installation of the script or even an error in handling, I can't tell as I don't own AP. Maybe someone else can tell if he/she has problems with AP and re-training personnel or not.

mechm0343 · Post by **mechm0343** » Mon, 11. Jun 12, 23:37

Oh well.. Im just glad that this is the only problem I've had.
I really like what lucikes scripts add to the game without having negative influence on the balance of the universe.. if this is the only problem I have running Lucikes scripts on AP then I think I came out on top

Thanks for the reply Saetan,
Ive never had to ask a question in the boards until this one because somewhere someone already asked the question and you have replied with the answer. thanks for all your help!

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[SCR] Personnel Transporter [7th May 2010 X³:TC 3.3.01]