How about an RTS component?

[Boringnick]

Given how X3 plays late-game (controlling large fleets and factories).. why not go full way and add an rts-like interface for that, instead of the current hacky way controlling your units through tons of menus.

So you're controlling your ships and bases through an interface that looks like Sins of a Solar Empire and by pressing a button you get zoomed into a traditional cockpit of your ship again.

Building complexes would be far easier too.

[DarkKlown77]

Oh for the love of god NO RTS in X Rebirth, PLEASE. I enjoy the flight sim aspect, I do NOT wanna see X:R dumbed down for the general masses.

[Mightysword]

[DarkKlown77]

Let's not get it twisted man, I LOVE RTS, I have bought many of them through the years. I just absolutely LOVE the X series as it has been, I'm excited about all the upcoming changes as well, even the one main ship, with control of drones, excellent idea.

I guess my comments stem from many other game publishers making an excellent game, then dumbing the sequel down just to make sales. One major example of this is Supreme Commander, and the very dumbed down Supreme Commander 2.

My apologies for any misunderstanding.

[Rice]

if it would be like in Supreme Commander 2 i will agree with your anxiety for RTS elements in X ^^
a light mix of it like, to select the 40 ships easy with "capture window"* and just setup one command for it, that they will be in the Wing Gold is a nice feature. which i first remember in RTS games where it just was "STRG+Number"
or some other kinds of managements "improvements" that would the control just make more intentional...for the actually standarts without to loose it superior charm .
Sure "t->c->7->3->5->enter"** is a really fast shortcut in the meaning of fastness ... if you make it that often that this handcode is gone in blood over... with nearly 10 years of possible game experience it would be possilbe

* i miss the right word actually ^^'

**not checked in the actual game so just a random pattern of possible menu order

[Sceptus]

While I wouldn't want X Rebirth to be an RTS or have any RTS elements, I most certainly think that the game should adopt similar control schemes.

For example, currently in X3 we have to place a factory in a sector by fumbling around this 2D map using arrow keys to adjust the placement of your factories. There is absolutely no excuse for not having a point-and-click placement mechanic in a 3D map overlay.

Similarly, setting up patrols between specific points is unnecessarily complicated by this. If I were a space ship admiral commanding a fleet, I would be commanding my captains to move to certain formations and locations based on visual-physical inputs, not specifying (x,y,z) coordinates for each one of several hundred (or even thousand) space ships.

[Bobucles]

The game's interface will certainly play a large role in how it plays out.

There are many actions that should be streamlined. Fleet combat is very fast and the player won't have time to drag through menus. A fast combat interface will thus be very important.

The more economic parts of the game are very complex, and much slower by comparison. A more in depth interface can be used.

[Spero]

[BigBANGtheory]

[Spero]

I don't understand how you can brand RTS inferfaces under "complex is good, complicated is bad".

An RTS interface for fleet management would simplify things, not complicate them. Orders could be given out in a handful of clicks on the sector map.

I'm not suggesting to turn X into an RTS, just the fleet management aspect has always been tiresome and 1-dimensional. At the very least this would ease the need for menus.

I don't think anyone wants to rely on AI. It would be nice if you could, but the potential for frustration is too great.

[Rabiator der II.]

[BigBANGtheory]

[shadowrunner85]

I would actually like to see to things improved. an strategic aspect, were you control and manage your fleets and bases thorough the space. And a tactical aspect were you can micromanage what happens in the fleet fight your inn.

So, i want interface to be simple to do the rough commands, like move my ships to this position. and then slightly more complex when it comes to tactical decisions, like ships or module target calling. what i would like to see is that you can choose how much you would micromanage, if you just command your fleet in a rough way, the ai fills inn the blanks them self.

of course, this is all late game, I dont think (hope) we'll get a fleet to play with at the beginning of the game. but I would like to see the end game interesting as well.

[Decimatarius]

[Sir Warwick]

+1 - homeworld style fleet control and 3d tactical view please!