(warning for egosoft) Some one stole nebulas from X3 for there game !

TTD · Post by **TTD** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 23:02

The-Last-Communist wrote:the first one looks like the same meshes from the centaur in X3 ! ... OMG!

Yes,very recognizable.

I quite like the pic linked there of the Caldari Rokh
...the full pic ,without the other blurb.

http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/wb/c/ ... 42-050.jpg

Infact, I would not mind having it as my own personal M1 or M2 , say with about 50 hangers for M3s/M3+

The-Last-Communist · Post by **The-Last-Communist** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 23:04

this is just bad...
this must be against the law

sjones25 · Post by **sjones25** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 23:07

While Egosoft's nebulas may be based on pictures of real-life nebulas, if they put any work into editing them at all, then those edited images are certainly Egosoft's property.

Graaf · Post by **Graaf** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 23:09

The Rokh and Nyx are almost identical.

Coruscant anyone?
Looks familiar....from the first released X3:R screenies
the Veldnaught
Wyvern
Naglfar/Myrmidon/Tornado hybrid

The-Last-Communist · Post by **The-Last-Communist** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 23:22

sjones25 wrote:While Egosoft's nebulas may be based on pictures of real-life nebulas, if they put any work into editing them at all, then those edited images are certainly Egosoft's property.

I completely agree with you

I realy hate this copie cats... shameful

Greyhawk1 · Post by **Greyhawk1** » Sat, 3. Sep 11, 02:39

God the trailer looked awful :\

I see they use gates as well >.<

InFlamesForEver · Post by **InFlamesForEver** » Sat, 3. Sep 11, 02:51

If someone can copyright a nebula then, oh dear....

Face it in any game with decent graphics nebula are gonna look similar.

GrahamSimmons · Post by **GrahamSimmons** » Sat, 3. Sep 11, 03:26

InFlamesForEver wrote:If someone can copyright a nebula then, oh dear....

Face it in any game with decent graphics nebula are gonna look similar.

see

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php? ... 76#3675176

TTD · Post by **TTD** » Sat, 3. Sep 11, 05:13

I think the nebula is not the legal problem,but some of the ships might be.

The-Last-Communist · Post by **The-Last-Communist** » Sat, 3. Sep 11, 09:24

I do agree the ships are more obvious
it just got me angry that someone is steeling content from the best space games and converting ships and stuff for theme self

NUKLEAR-SLUG · Post by **NUKLEAR-SLUG** » Sat, 3. Sep 11, 10:02

The-Last-Communist wrote:I do agree the ships are more obvious
it just got me angry that someone is steeling content from the best space games and converting ships and stuff for theme self

Much like those X3 mods that include Star Wars/Babylon5/etc.. ships you mean?

GrahamSimmons · Post by **GrahamSimmons** » Sat, 3. Sep 11, 10:40

NUKLEAR-SLUG wrote:
The-Last-Communist wrote:I do agree the ships are more obvious
it just got me angry that someone is steeling content from the best space games and converting ships and stuff for theme self
Much like those X3 mods that include Star Wars/Babylon5/etc.. ships you mean?

There's a BIG difference between a mod and a full game. Mods are somewhat protected under copyright law - basically you can use whatever you want except if the owner of material asks you not to. When it comes to releasing a full game (especially for profit) you are expressly forbidden from using anybody else's assets which would include both nebulae and ship models.

The-Last-Communist · Post by **The-Last-Communist** » Sat, 3. Sep 11, 14:53

and mods steel sometimes but its for free...
but they are making profit out of thievery.

NUKLEAR-SLUG · Post by **NUKLEAR-SLUG** » Sat, 3. Sep 11, 15:32

GrahamSimmons wrote:
NUKLEAR-SLUG wrote:
The-Last-Communist wrote:I do agree the ships are more obvious
it just got me angry that someone is steeling content from the best space games and converting ships and stuff for theme self
Much like those X3 mods that include Star Wars/Babylon5/etc.. ships you mean?
There's a BIG difference between a mod and a full game. Mods are somewhat protected under copyright law - basically you can use whatever you want except if the owner of material asks you not to. When it comes to releasing a full game (especially for profit) you are expressly forbidden from using anybody else's assets which would include both nebulae and ship models.

Mods have no inherent protection under copyright law and you've no special exception to use someone elses material. Most mods exist purely because they're insufficiently popular to show up on the radar of the people that might want to step on them, but there have been plenty of projects over the years that have gained sufficient attention and promptly got stomped into the ground with C&D orders.

The-Last-Communist wrote:and mods steel sometimes but its for free...
but they are making profit out of thievery.

Robin Hood was still a thief.

The-Last-Communist · Post by **The-Last-Communist** » Sat, 3. Sep 11, 18:02

your right , but they stole from egosoft ! that just sick !
but i do get your point

Mightysword · Post by **Mightysword** » Sat, 3. Sep 11, 18:22

Hum for some reason I doubt Egosoft would do anything in this case. When I first joint the forum many years back when X2 was launched, I pointed out that it seems Egosoft used ship model from other media in their games. For example, the Starship trooper series. And many people defend (not sure if the staffs were among those or not) with this reason, quote: "There are only so many starship design that you're bounded to see similarity". Of course I called BS on that, but moved on, apparently now someone else think it's actually a good idea.

For example, look at this Rodger Young ship (Yamato class) from starship trooper, do you think it looks awfully similar to a certain ship in X2?

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You can also notice that the yellow ship in this first picture looks pretty similar to how the TL in X2 looks. I wonder if it was the reason why X3 completely scrap the entire models from X2.

Note: I don't accuse anyone anything here. Just want to provide another perspective for all the people getting high in this topic, what came around comes around, heh? Who know, could be just another round of coincidence when big idea clashes

The-Last-Communist · Post by **The-Last-Communist** » Sat, 3. Sep 11, 18:36

I know about that small inspiration but these guys stole , using the same material as egosoft , I did feel that they where coping back in the days , but I think they did it nicely as it fit there universe and where maid from there own 3d objects... in the case of the ``copie game`` well its just stupid steeling

GrahamSimmons · Post by **GrahamSimmons** » Sat, 3. Sep 11, 18:41

Yeah there is a difference between inspiration and actually loading up files from X3TC and editing them before putting them back in your own game.

The-Last-Communist · Post by **The-Last-Communist** » Sat, 3. Sep 11, 22:16

and in X2 all there dessignes where magic ....
I remember the teladi bat (I think) or was it there m4? in X-tension looking like a old cylon raider lol....

enenra · Post by **enenra** » Sun, 4. Sep 11, 00:23

Why that does look pretty much exactly like the nebulas I've been working with for some years now...

In fact, considering they apparently also have EVE Online models in there (and probably stuff of a bunch of other franchises) there is little doubt that those are indeed the background from X3(TC). And contrary to apparently popular belief those are not simply pictures taken from some telescopes but handcrafted images. Even if they were pictures and "only" adjusted / overpainted that would not mean that they're not Egosoft's property.

Question is whether they're selling that game for money. I haven't found the page where you buy the game / join the game yet so I don't really know. Anyone found out more about it?