[Discussion] Generic X3TC S&M questions III

[Ketraar]

Seams to me you are missing some attributes in the check.

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<conversation_completed actor="{ref to actor of the conversation here}" conversation="TRPRSC101.Banks C1" answer="{this is what you put in outcome="" in conversations}"/>

Not 100% sure about the actor but sure the outcome (aka answer) is mandatory

Hope that helps.

MFG

Ketraar

[eldyranx3]

Its actually this part of the code that wont trigger

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<cue name="TRPRSC101.A1 Fire and Ice Trade Agreement"> 
                  <condition> 
                    <conversation_completed conversation="TRPRSC101.Gogoelos C1"/> 
                  </condition> 
                  <timing> 
                    <time exact="5s"/> 
                  </timing> 
                  <action> 
                    <do_all> 
                      <incoming_message author="eldyranx3" popup="0" text="Debug"/> 
                    </do_all> 
                  </action> 
                </cue>

TRPRSC101.Banks C1 triggers now just fine. Initially it didn't, which is what my last post was about. Its TRPRSC101.Gogoelos C1 that wont trigger now.

[ScRaT_GER]

As Ketraar said: Have you tried to put the "answer" attribute into the condition <conversation_completed>?

Greetings,
ScRaT

[eldyranx3]

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<conversation name="TRPRSC101.Gogoelos C1" description="A1 contact with Libaras Tismanos Gogoelos IV">
    <player text="{8461,305}">
      <npc text="{8461,401}">
        <player text="{8461,306}">
          <npc text="{8461,402}">
            <player text="{8461,307}" outcome="ready"/>
              </npc>
            </player>
          </npc>
        </player>
  </conversation>

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 <cue name="TRPRSC101.A1 Fire and Ice Trade Agreement">
                  <condition>
                    <conversation_completed actor="TRPRSC101.Libaras Tismanos Gogoelos IV" conversation="TRPRSC101.Gogoelos C1" answer="ready"/>
                  </condition>
                  <timing>
                    <time exact="5s"/>
                  </timing>
                  <action>
                    <do_all>
                      <incoming_message author="eldyranx3" popup="0" text="Debug"/>
                    </do_all>
                  </action>
                </cue>

Does not trigger the debug message either.

[gutoue]

Hi, very nice thread.

I got some old scripts for X3R, I put these to the scripts folder of the X3TC(with extended mod). But I can not find these scripts in the in-game editor. I s there any convertion required?

Thx

[X2-Illuminatus]

Yes, you have to change the engine version in the scripts.

Scripts can be loaded in X3TC, when you open them with a text editor and change

• the engine version from 32 to 44:
  <engineversion>44</engineversion>
• the variable of the engine version in the code array to 44:
  <sval type="array" size="10">
  <sval type="string" val="a.test"/>
  <sval type="int" val="44"/>

However, if you can load a script in the script editor doesn't mean that it will work. The more complex a script is, the more unlikely it is that it will work without further adjustments.

[eldyranx3]

Probably a much easier question to answer than the last. Is there a better way of doing this?

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<cue name="TRPRSC101.A2 Chasing Svaoilfari M5 Armed">
                          <condition>
                            <check_all>
                              <object_exists object="Chasing Svaoilfari Scout"/>
                              <check_value value="{player.ship}" exact="{object@Chasing Svaoilfari Scout}"/>
                              <check_any>
                                <check_value value="{player.ship.equipment.SS_LASER_EMP.exists}" exact="1"/>
                                <check_value value="{player.ship.equipment.SS_MISSILE_POLTERGEIST.exists}" exact="1"/>
                              </check_any>
                            </check_all>
                          </condition>
                          <timing>
                            <time exact="5s"/>
                          </timing>
                          <action>
                            <do_all>
                              <incoming_message author="{actor.name@TRPRSC101.Rana Banks}" popup="0" text="{8461,218}"/>
                              <reset_cue cue="TRPRSC101.A2 Chasing Svaoilfari M5 Disarmed"/>
                            </do_all>
                          </action>
                          <cues>
                            <cue name="TRPRSC101.A2 Chasing Svaoilfari M5 Disarmed">
                              <condition>
                                <check_all>
                                  <object_exists object="Chasing Svaoilfari Scout"/>
                                  <check_value value="{player.ship}" exact="{object@Chasing Svaoilfari Scout}"/>
                                  <check_any>
                                    <check_value value="{player.ship.equipment.SS_LASER_EMP.exists}" exact="0"/>
                                    <check_value value="{player.ship.equipment.SS_MISSILE_POLTERGEIST.exists}" exact="0"/>
                                  </check_any>
                                </check_all>
                              </condition>
                              <timing>
                                <time exact="5s"/>
                              </timing>
                              <action>
                                <do_all>
                                  <incoming_message author="{actor.name@TRPRSC101.Rana Banks}" popup="0" text="{8461,219}"/>
                                  <reset_cue cue="TRPRSC101.A2 Chasing Svaoilfari M5 Armed"/>
                                </do_all>
                              </action>
                            </cue>
                          </cues>
                        </cue>

Is there a better way to check to see if this particular ship that the player is flying has EMP's or Missiles installed, give a warning, and then give confirmation when they are subsequently disarmed?

[ScRaT_GER]

I'm not a 100% sure, that I understand what you want to do, but maybe using <do_when> would reduce the code duplication a bit, because you can move the checks out of the condition into the action.

I don't understand what this is supposed to mean:

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<object_exists object="Chasing Svaoilfari Scout"/>
<check_value value="{player.ship}" exact="{object@Chasing Svaoilfari Scout}"/>

Greetings,
ScRaT

[dillpickle]

I'm not a 100% sure, that I understand what you want to do, but maybe using <do_when> would reduce the code duplication a bit, because you can move the checks out of the condition into the action.

I don't understand what this is supposed to mean:

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<object_exists object="Chasing Svaoilfari Scout"/>
<check_value value="{player.ship}" exact="{object@Chasing Svaoilfari Scout}"/>

Greetings,
ScRaT

<do_when> would be my choice for something like this, depending on what the desired result is.

<object_exists object="Chasing Svaoilfari Scout"/> is unnecessary, as if {player.ship} is exactly{object@Chasing Svaoilfari Scout} then it quite obviously exists....

[eldyranx3]

Sorry, I should have been clearer. Those parts are reduntant, agreed. What about this part:

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 <check_value value="{player.ship.equipment.SS_LASER_EMP.exists}" exact="1"/>
 <check_value value="{player.ship.equipment.SS_MISSILE_POLTERGEIST.exists}" exact="1"/>

[ScRaT_GER]

Those parts are reduntant, agreed. What about this part:

It isn't. How else would you check if those wares exist in the cargo?

Greetings,
ScRaT

[dillpickle]

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<check_value value="{player.ship}" exact="{object@Chasing Svaoilfari Scout}"/>

This bit isn't necessarily redundant - you can use it to ensure the player uses a specific ship for a mission instead of one they'd prefer to use.

As ScRaT_GER said the checking for equipment isn't redundant if you're using it for a condition check.

It would help knowing what you are trying to achieve, as the approach could be quite different. Is it a case that you want to check the player is in a particular ship, and if armed a message sent, which is repeated periodically until you disarm when a different message is sent?
Or is it a case that the mission won't continue until you are disarmed, and a single message telling you you are armed and need to lose your weapons to continue?

[eldyranx3]

Or is it a case that the mission won't continue until you are disarmed, and a single message telling you you are armed and need to lose your weapons to continue?

There will be a later point in the mission that will fail if the player is in that ship and it is armed. I could just put that check in while entering the key sector, but I want the player to know that they have triggered a potential mission fail condition, and to be able to know when it is safe to proceed once they ditch the weapons.

A little bit more complicated than it needs to be, but I like immersion.

[heratik]

Sorry for the noob question, but if I download some scripts, as long as I have a set of saves I use for modified and a set for vanilla. If I move the relevant files in/out of the Script and T folders when appropriate, can I switch between modified and vanilla games?

[Gazz]

Or you can just copy the entire TC folder and keep two completely separate installations.

Just don't mix and match the savegames. =)

[heratik]

Cheers Gazz!

[eldyranx3]

Is there a trick to getting a new sector to show up on the universe map through the MD? Or do I have to do something not MD related?

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<cue name="TRPRSC101.A6 Building Asgard">
          <condition>
            <check_value value="{value@TRPRSC101.PlotProgress}" exact="6"/>
          </condition>
          <timing>
            <time min="1m" max="3m"/>
          </timing>
          <action>
            <do_all>
              <incoming_message author="eldyranx3" popup="0" silent="0" text="Loading Asgard"/>

              <load_map file="TRP_Map_ASGD"/>
              <find_sector name="TRPRSC101.Asgard" x="9" y="0" comment="TRPRSC101 Plot Sector"/>
              <find_sector name="TRPRSC101.Neptune" x="9" y="1"/>
              <add_map>
                <sector sector="TRPRSC101.Asgard"/>
              </add_map>
              <alter_sector object="TRPRSC101.Asgard" security="core" population="0" size="75km"/>
              <set_sector_override sector="TRPRSC101.Asgard" textid="1021800" race="atf"/>
              <set_sector_known sector="TRPRSC101.Asgard" known="1"/>

              <!--Create Neptune Terran North Jump Gate-->
              <create_gate gate="north" known="1" typename="SS_WG_TJ_NORTH" race="terran" safety="0">
                <position x="0km" y="0km" z="40km"/>
                <sector sector="TRPRSC101.Neptune"/>
                <destination sector="TRPRSC101.Asgard" gate="south"/>
              </create_gate>

              <!--Create Asgard Terran South Jump Gate-->
              <create_gate gate="south" known="1" typename="SS_WG_TJ_SOUTH" race="terran" safety="0">
                <position x="0km" y="0km" z="-40km"/>
                <sector sector="TRPRSC101.Asgard"/>
                <destination sector="TRPRSC101.Neptune" gate="north"/>
              </create_gate>

            </do_all>
          </action>
        </cue>

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
<universe>
	<o id="1634" f="1" t="1" x="9" y="0" r="14" size="27500000" m="0" p="179706" qtrade="0" qfight="0" qbuild="0" qthink="0">
		<o t="2" s="6" neb="0" stars="0"/>
		<o f="1" t="3" s="1" x="-1102931227" y="-687972107" z="108199201" color="16777160"/>
		<o f="1" t="3" s="10" x="-1093769121" y="-456608099" z="67933720" color="3297370"/>
		<o f="1" t="4" s="125" x="-37252205" y="263878530" z="-115974098" color="328963" fn="0"/>
		<o f="1" t="4" s="73" x="-14543588" y="375785235" z="-156926499" color="328963" fn="0"/>
		<o f="1" t="4" s="20" x="147298221" y="-272093611" z="188080253" color="990735" fn="0"/>
	</o>
</universe>

I can fly info the sector just fine, and any property in that sector shows up in the list just fine, but it just doesn't show up on the universe map. I'm going off the code in the ANH Plot, so I'm probably missing something non-MD related.

Thanks in advance!

[Ketraar]

Making sectors visible ingame is done via 00749.bod. You need to:
a) edit your 00749.bod to contain the sector(s) you want added
b) use an existing one like SunBlades bod, that will have most sectors within 17x21 (or other scripts/mods that help you create your own bod)

The sector will work just fine for NPC and mostly for you too. Problems known for player are that you cant access the universemap and therefore cant also use the jumpdrive.

So, no, not possible done via MD.

MFG

Ketraar

[eldyranx3]

Thanks for the heads up Ketraar!

[gefer8]

I want more info about complexes. Google doesn't seem to help me, so I want to know if there's a better way to connect stations then just randomly guessing the co-ordinates.