[Jobs] SRM[8/6] and Xtra[20/4]

[vkerinav]

With missile spawning also using a priorities list, and boarding pods absent from it, they shouldn't be spawned at all.

As for the flags, Griffiths only removed them because he didn't think they were necessary. If someone else can see a use for them, they should certainly be put back in.

[Sn4kemaster]

Hi im using the latest XTra pack from Cadius with your latest Jobs pack (no civs)........using CMOD and the new trails pack.

Noticed two possible errors....

1 Their are no Teladi Pteranodon Heavy Battleships to be found anywhere....but their are a large number of Teladi Military Mammoths in Teladi core sectors.......!!!

2 Their are no Odysseus to be found anywhere.....but their are often 2-3 or more Zeus in most core paranid sectors..

[vkerinav]

1 Their are no Teladi Pteranodon Heavy Battleships to be found anywhere....but their are a large number of Teladi Military Mammoths in Teladi core sectors.......!!!

2 Their are no Odysseus to be found anywhere.....but their are often 2-3 or more Zeus in most core paranid sectors..

1-- Yes, there are. Two of them. I've increased the number to five. The Mammoths were another issue entirely, which has been fixed.

2-- Oops. Odysseus entries had the M1 flag set. Fixed. SRM version had the same problem.

Both versions have been updated.

[Sam L.R. Griffiths]

With missile spawning also using a priorities list, and boarding pods absent from it, they shouldn't be spawned at all.

This is correct, if you are getting ships being spawned with boarding pods then the likelyhood is they are being spawned by the Mission Director.

As for the flags, Griffiths only removed them because he didn't think they were necessary. If someone else can see a use for them, they should certainly be put back in.

Those flags are only useful in the current setup if you hardcode weapon types which means a different version of EES for each weapon mod potentially.

A possible alternate and more flexible solution would be to add a laser sub-type mapping table (with it's own page) and use an integer mask with some nominal default settings for what each bit means (e.g. bit 0 = Beam, bit 1 = Area Affect, bit 2 = Ignore Shields, etc).

[Litcube]

@Roger

You're absolutely right about the hardcoded thing. If you had to write EESs for each mod, you'd come across that. It's a valid point.

It's too bad there's no reference in game for TLaser bit flags like there is for missiles.

[mr.WHO]

Does this work with "No civilians" mod?

[Sam L.R. Griffiths]

Does this work with "No civilians" mod?

This includes a variant of the "No civilians" mod.

[Sam L.R. Griffiths]

As for the flags, Griffiths only removed them because he didn't think they were necessary. If someone else can see a use for them, they should certainly be put back in.

Those flags are only useful in the current setup if you hardcode weapon types which means a different version of EES for each weapon mod potentially.

A possible alternate and more flexible solution would be to add a laser sub-type mapping table (with it's own page) and use an integer mask with some nominal default settings for what each bit means (e.g. bit 0 = Beam, bit 1 = Area Affect, bit 2 = Ignore Shields, etc).

I just had a thought... perhaps one option would be to look at the MARS configuration file(s) and see if they could be used for EES "as is", at least that way we could avoid potentially unnecessary usage of additional text pages.

[mr.WHO]

I tested this mod and here is my feedback:
- I can't find ATF Valhalla, is it spawned? if not then there should be one, posibly at TUS3 as it's the closes to Xenon sector.
- It looks like no ATF Kvasir class is spawned, USC cruisers are spawned pretty well.
- from jobs I see that there should be a Lofn spawned attacking Xenons, where I can find it?
- No Aomori spawned so far.
- is the are some Longswords (both mk.1 and mk.2) ? It would be good to have some number of those roaming Pirate sectors.
- It would be fun to have another Xenon Z task force migrating between Xenon sectors.
- Some Xenon C migrations would be fun too.

[Sn4kemaster]

I tested this mod and here is my feedback:
- I can't find ATF Valhalla, is it spawned? if not then there should be one, posibly at TUS3 as it's the closes to Xenon sector.
- It looks like no ATF Kvasir class is spawned, USC cruisers are spawned pretty well.
- from jobs I see that there should be a Lofn spawned attacking Xenons, where I can find it?
- No Aomori spawned so far.
- is the are some Longswords (both mk.1 and mk.2) ? It would be good to have some number of those roaming Pirate sectors.
- It would be fun to have another Xenon Z task force migrating between Xenon sectors.
- Some Xenon C migrations would be fun too.

All those ships are in the game, ive used the cheat script to drop satellites in every sector and you normally find the following at the start of a new game.....

The Valhalla is only ever found in one sector, the sector it should be.......Moon sector, its the last line of defense of the earth.

Kvasir's normally are found in the last Terran UN sector there is normally a large ATF battle group there...also the sector below the Asteroid belt has 1......

I have seen Longswords around too........

********* In fact the only ships i still haven't seen are the Teladi Pteranodon (this is after the latest version) and Verdandi Sentinals.......which is a shame as they both are great ships*********

[mr.WHO]

You're right, after I used the cheat sattelites spawn I found the Valhalla, a few Aomories, Kvasirs and Longswords.

Multiple Lofns spawned in commonwealth unknown sectors

I found only one Argon Cyclops - in Argon Prime
One Tern
No Pteradons and Cormorants
No Verdandis


BTW It's very cool view to see Carriers, or better Valhalla with multiple escort M6 docked to them. Real "don't pist me" sign

[vkerinav]

I tested this mod and here is my feedback:

Ooh, I get feedback! That doesn't involve Mammoths!

Sn4kemaster has done a pretty good job of answering everything, but;

-Z/C migrations; the C especially could devastate sectors. The Z is likely to do a good job of this as well. I don't want to force people into using a response script.

-Lofn/Longswords in enemy sectors; can't really be done. The closest is an inverted 'not enemy sector', which includes Kha'ak and Split sectors for the ATF. I altered the Lofn to spawn in the Asteroid belt, but it doesn't sound like those changes made it over from the SRM version. I'll put it on the list of things to do.

[Kilo181]

Um, I'm an idiot, but how do I install this exactly? Do I just copy/paste JobWings.txt into types folder and rename it to Jobs.txt? Or am I missing something?

Oh and, I'm using this for Cadius's Xtra Ships

[HotSake]

Um, I'm an idiot, but how do I install this exactly? Do I just copy/paste JobWings.txt into types folder and rename it to Jobs.txt? Or am I missing something?

Oh and, I'm using this for Cadius's Xtra Ships

Install the EES from the front page, except for the Jobs files. Get those from Xtra Jobs, also on the front page. Use the readme to decide which Jobs file you want, rename it to Jobs.txt, and put it and JobWings.txt into your Types folder.

[Kilo181]

If I just want to have the NPCs be able to use Cadius's ships, do I just install the JobWings.txt ? Or do I need EES and other stuff as well?

[vkerinav]

You will need to choose a Jobs.txt file, and place in your X3TC/types folder, along with Jobwings.txt. Jobs files are currently labeled "Jobs-Civs.txt", and so on, and will need to be renamed to Jobs.txt.

EES is optional.

[Kilo181]

Okay and does this require a restart?

[joelR]

Okay and does this require a restart?

No.

[dougeye]

hi vkerinav

i am experiencing extremelly high levels of a particular script running constantly.

iship.cmd.follow.spacefly - around 7000 running constantly (not total run)

its about half the total scripts running in the game, someone pointed out it could be jobs related and your xtra jobs is the only specific jobs file i use.

i run xtra shippack (latest version) with xtra jobs unleashed no civs (latest version) and obviously unleashed rc2.

is this a script your jobs effect and would you be so kind if you have a minute to take a look and see if its related to your work

p.s i tried removing that script from script folder but it continues running anyway. havnt tried a new game. also my save game isnt massive. i tried a new game and total scripts at start were around 8000 and in my main save they are around 16000 running. if this is a dodgy script/jobs issue it would make a great improvment to my game

thanks doug.

[joelR]

hi vkerinav

i am experiencing extremelly high levels of a particular script running constantly.

iship.cmd.follow.spacefly - around 7000 running constantly (not total run)

its about half the total scripts running in the game, someone pointed out it could be jobs related and your xtra jobs is the only specific jobs file i use.

i run xtra shippack (latest version) with xtra jobs unleashed no civs (latest version) and obviously unleashed rc2.

is this a script your jobs effect and would you be so kind if you have a minute to take a look and see if its related to your work

p.s i tried removing that script from script folder but it continues running anyway. havnt tried a new game. also my save game isnt massive. i tried a new game and total scripts at start were around 8000 and in my main save they are around 16000 running. if this is a dodgy script/jobs issue it would make a great improvment to my game

thanks doug.

I cant say for sure if thats the issue. All I know is I had a game with a seriously high script count (13000) that made combat unbearable. I tried something I read in another post by Spectre01. He deleted all the data in the jobs.txt and jobwings.txt and loaded his game and then ran the tmp.srm.kill.nameless script in the game...saved the game and reloaded with a new jobs file (data in it). It dropped my script count down to about 8800k. Again, I am no expert but that worked for me. I would still follow vkerinavs advice.