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What did you think of... the END
I liked it
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Bit of a cliff hangar, must be hiding something
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Not got the encyclopedia, Imma read spoilerz
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PostPosted: Mon, 3. Jan 11, 01:01    Post subject: X Universe Ending etc. Reply with quote Print

Did anyone else find it a bit depressing and overall meh.

To avoid spoiling it for those who haven't got the encyclopedia:

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So the Argon go and bash up Earth but fail... the ancients go, oh dear Xenon + this too. Better do the emergency shutdown. Plot characters die, universe gates off, races seperated, massive war... I've just got the feeling it's only ended that way FOR A REASON... Maybe there won't be 'X4'... but I think the storyline will continue somehow and somewhere.
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PostPosted: Mon, 3. Jan 11, 02:07    Post subject: Re: X Universe Ending etc. Reply with quote Print

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Did anyone else find it a bit depressing and overall meh.

To avoid spoiling it for those who haven't got the encyclopedia:

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So the Argon go and bash up Earth but fail... the ancients go, oh dear Xenon + this too. Better do the emergency shutdown. Plot characters die, universe gates off, races seperated, massive war... I've just got the feeling it's only ended that way FOR A REASON... Maybe there won't be 'X4'... but I think the storyline will continue somehow and somewhere.
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So that's how it's supposed to end according Egosoft? I don't know if asking for details is wrong since it's content from an Egosoft product.

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PostPosted: Mon, 3. Jan 11, 02:08    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Haven;t got said encyclopedia but these thoughts occour:

Lets be serious here:

1. the Argon have had hold of the X shuttle.

2. The Goners have UFJD, as does presumebly the PC we represent and the Khaak, probably also the Xenon based on the Aldrin plot.

3. As i understand it virtually every gate in exicstance is eithier of Commonwealth construction or part of the aincent network. I doubt even if the Terrans't can switch them off they can keep the switched off. Not to mention the commonwealth nations can just build new ones.

4. Even if we assume the commonwealth can;t somehow pull itself back together the Xenon are going to consider the Terrans a grade A threat now. The earth Torus might be able to keep them off earth. Maybe. But it;s not going to stop them using one of those sun blasting weapons i've heard rumours of.


Eithier way it's game over for the Terrans. If their very, very, very lucky they might actually survve as a people. But sooner or later somone is going to go over there and whack them out for good on the military end.

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PostPosted: Mon, 3. Jan 11, 02:30    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

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3. As i understand it virtually every gate in exicstance is eithier of Commonwealth construction or part of the aincent network.

Actually only the Terran ever built a gate, 2 to be exact. All others are from the Ancients. The Paranid tried to build one in Reunion (Heretics End) which was a near catastrophe.

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PostPosted: Mon, 3. Jan 11, 02:35    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Fair enough, but they have managed to keep the old gates maintained. I can't see the Terran's managing to keep them shut down given that the commonwealth has to know how they work. And as mentioned there are still UFJD around and the Argon knowlage of the X Shuttle.

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PostPosted: Mon, 3. Jan 11, 02:45    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Carl99 wrote:
Fair enough, but they have managed to keep the old gates maintained. I can't see the Terran's managing to keep them shut down given that the commonwealth has to know how they work. And as mentioned there are still UFJD around and the Argon knowlage of the X Shuttle.


There are also jump beacons to consider.

Also considering that the Paranid built a working gate, they'd have to be able to turn it on, otherwise it wouldn't work. But then they might not know, considering they had special help while making them.

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PostPosted: Mon, 3. Jan 11, 02:57    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Goner's unfocused jump drive is an experimental design and many decades behind Terran advances with the X-Shuttle, without refinement they can just jump randomly in any point in the universe, usually plagued by Kha'ak or any other hazard. It's not a viable solution.

Now the Argon, if they manage to reverse engineer the Terran experimental drive, could achieve advances in those fields although they'd still need several decades of research, and divided and scattered across the galaxy they couldn't probably achieve a decent level of knowledge to recreate a functional gate-less jump drive in many, many decades. Same applies to any Commonwealth species.

The Terran case is different. Their main bases, research centers and populated planets are relatively close in the Sol system and connected with Trans-Orbital accelerators (which aren't controlled by the Old Ones). Despite they have always been isolated from all the galactic civilizations, they managed a far superior technological level than any of the known races and tamed the jump-drive and jump-gate technology being able to actually rewire the ancient jump-gates and create their own (let's not forget that's why they got cut off the Commonwealth jump-gate system by the Ancients in the first place).

There's no doubt they have the ability to engage the jump networks (or even create their own) and expand to the whole universe once again. But every single expansion attempt has been troublesome (Terraformer War, The lost of the X-Shuttle, the Terran Conflict and ultimately this huge war you're talking about). So the question is not if they're able to but if they are willing to do so. Their "splendid isolation" keeps them safe and technologically advanced so, why reopen the gates to political instability, cataclysms and war?

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PostPosted: Mon, 3. Jan 11, 03:49    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

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why reopen the gates to political instability, cataclysms and war?



So that we can have an X4 Cool

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PostPosted: Mon, 3. Jan 11, 10:36    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Carl99 wrote:
Fair enough, but they have managed to keep the old gates maintained. I can't see the Terran's managing to keep them shut down given that the commonwealth has to know how they work. And as mentioned there are still UFJD around and the Argon knowlage of the X Shuttle.


You appear to be misunderstanding something. It isn't the Terrans who shut down the gate network, it's the Ancients--the mysterious beings who built them in the first place and have no doubt been responsible for maintaining them ever since. The Commonwealth races do not know how a gate works, could not build one, and certainly have nothing to do with maintaining them! As Ketraar points out, the only people who have successfully built a working gate are the Terrans, and their well-known paranoia about external attack almost certainly means they're not likely to try building one again.

(Note: the Paranid did successfully build a working gate, but that was with the help of the Sohnen, and the gate was boobytrapped--it was only the actions of the player that stabilised it to form the gate between Heretic's End and the Solar System. Now the Paranid know about Sohnen trickery they're not likely to trust them again...although it would be interesting at some point to find out who the Sohnen actually *are*, because they've only been mentioned in the X3R plotline so far!).

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PostPosted: Mon, 3. Jan 11, 11:39    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Was that an Egosoft hint!? Razz

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PostPosted: Mon, 3. Jan 11, 12:22    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

shonen =/ ancient?

and where's this story in the 1st post come from? encyclopedia? you mean in game encyclopedia? Embarassed Confused

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PostPosted: Mon, 3. Jan 11, 12:31    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

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PostPosted: Mon, 3. Jan 11, 12:49    Post subject: The End is nigh! Reply with quote Print

No one seems to have mentioned the hub gates here. Although not standard jump gates they mirror standard JG tech. and add functionality. These were built by Xenon and repaired and turned on by a Boron, so to say there is no one outside Terans who could maintain or turn on JG when the whole universe economy and general advancement depend on it, would appear to rewrite the X story.
Still, if Egosoft are fed up of the X universe, fed up of the fans/addicts, fed up of investing money in it, how long will players keep the pleasure of using this site?


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PostPosted: Mon, 3. Jan 11, 13:08    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Yeah, I was thinking...

A future game can't be X4. I don't think. They've said so.

It can't be the same, just with a new story etc. because that's... well, bad practice for one.

It can't be that radically different because of market.

So... TNBT...? Probably a continuation of the storyline but anywhere from a few decades to a few centuries in the future. And people were saying Gates are the problem with X, making too restricted etc. IMO gates and sectors make the very core of X. I'd probably not play if it was just click somewhere to warp to a system.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3. Jan 11, 13:12    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

EmperorJon wrote:
A future game can't be X4. I don't think. They've said so.

It can't be the same, just with a new story etc. because that's... well, bad practice for one.

It can't be that radically different because of market.

But they DID say that it would be in the X universe, correct?


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