[X3TC 2.5] A true "Proud Moment"

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[X3TC 2.5] A true "Proud Moment"

Post by redjay » Mon, 22. Nov 10, 16:21

Hello all, I just completed my largest complex to date.
It started as a 600 station complex in Tkr's Depravation to complete the hub resource requirements and morphed into a 1,500 station monstrosity! :D


The Fleet used was comprised at the highest point by 59 Mammoth's used as station transports and 18 Orca's used as CCK haulers.

The TL Fleet

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The Sector map after completion
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The stations in the South West quadrant as viewed from the "West"
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(sorry, but I forgot to turn off the HUD....and I'm not going back there) :P

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The asteroids are arrange like this in a vertical wall with 5km spacing
Something like the above "Diagram".

When I uninstalled the Tubeless mod the game wouldn't load so I gave up and took the shoots I could.

I'm not *quite* sure of the exact station numbers due to one of my Mammoths being lost whilst carrying unknown stations....I replaced the unknowns with Chip plants. By the time I was nearing completion, my FPS were flatlined at 2. :headbang: :evil:


(This is NOT a closed loop due to lack of Ore/Silicon IS. I'm planning on supplying it via complex's in Barren Shores, Mines of Fortune and perhaps Weavers Tempest and Ocracoke's Storm. meanwhile mobile mining in Family Tkr is helping offset the deficit.)

The Station list is as follows:

Food:

Boron Bio Gas Factory X116

Boron BoFu Refinery L X115

Argon Cahoona Bakery L X34

Argon Cattle Ranch L X34

Split Chelt Space Aquarium L X88

Split Rastar Refinery L X87

Paranid Snail Ranch L X22

Paranid Space Jewelry L X21


Tech:

Split Adv. Sat Factory X50

Split Sat Factory X50

Split Computer Plant X15

Split Quantum Tube Fab X15

Boron Chip Plant X111

Boron Crystal Fab L X90


Energy:

Boron Solar Power Plant XL X40


Shields:

Argon 1MJ Shield Prod. Facility X125

Split 25MJ Shield Prod. Facility X100


Mineral

Boron Ore Mine L X61

Split Silicon Mine L X26


Random wares to sell for Profit:

Split Disintegrator Rifles Fab X100

Split Lasertower Factory X100

Split Low-yield Sidearms Fab X100

They were placed using the Station Stacking technique. (couldnt find a link to the thread were I read about it)

This was all done in "Semi-Vanilla" because I use both
Lower Poly Asteroids and TCM Tubeless_Complex_Mod. (Many thanks to the Script writers of these btw)


Edit: Edited out a couple of edits and added more screenshots and changed most of the freakin post. :lol:
Last edited by redjay on Tue, 23. Nov 10, 00:08, edited 6 times in total.

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Post by vukica » Mon, 22. Nov 10, 16:26

my, my... that is quite awesome!
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Post by redjay » Mon, 22. Nov 10, 16:29

vukica wrote:my, my... that is quite awesome!
Thanks, it took me a week and a half to do and it ruined that game by making the load time between sectors just under 13 minutes...still worth it though! :D

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Post by Spychotic » Mon, 22. Nov 10, 16:31

Strikes me that your Disintegrator Rifles and Sidearms fabs are too numerous. There's not that much demand for them. I also think you have too many shield fabs; the demand is big but not nearly that big.

Good effort, and very impressive, but I regret to report that it may not turn out to be the profit factory you intended it to be.

However, it is a good base to start putting other more useful factories on.

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Post by redjay » Mon, 22. Nov 10, 16:34

Spychotic wrote:Strikes me that your Disintegrator Rifles and Sidearms fabs are too numerous. There's not that much demand for them. I also think you have too many shield fabs; the demand is big but not nearly that big.

Good effort, and very impressive, but I regret to report that it may not turn out to be the profit factory you intended it to be.

However, it is a good base to start putting other more useful factories on.

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I believe you are correct. those stations were merely filler towards the 1500 mark, I'll use CLS ships/pilots to move probably everything that will not sell onto TL's for sale at the closest Shipyard.

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Post by Bobucles » Mon, 22. Nov 10, 16:47

It may be time to take a look at the complex cleaner mod.

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Post by Eternall_00 » Mon, 22. Nov 10, 16:57

I find you only need about 10 TLs for mega plex building, as you can send them back for more facs when empty they will return before you empty 3-4 more. Still, quite impressive.

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Post by redjay » Mon, 22. Nov 10, 17:05

Eternall_00 wrote:I find you only need about 10 TLs for mega plex building, as you can send them back for more facs when empty they will return before you empty 3-4 more. Still, quite impressive.

Under most circumstances I do use around 10 TL's. in this case I was sending them to the dangerous Ocean of Fantasy and Zyarths Dominion and had to keep an M2 in that sector as an escort....it was easier to just buy all or most of the stations of each type whilst I had my eye on safety for the TLs rather than letting them go 1 by 1 and (probably) be destroyed. Also I forgot to put it in the main post, But I was using the technique of "Station Stacking" placing 20-25 stations inside of another. I couldnt find the thread were I read about it so couldn't link to it. (This'll be REALLY bad if a Pirate kills the connectors :P )

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Post by Gazz » Mon, 22. Nov 10, 17:25

Bobucles wrote:It may be time to take a look at the complex cleaner mod.
Nah, that would have made the building far too easy because all the stations in all TL in a sector could have been built instanteous... and while being OOS.

And most importantly, it wouldn't be a very braggable 1500 station complex or a 13 min load time! =P
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Post by rz8472 » Mon, 22. Nov 10, 18:24

That is quite impressive... and probably took more patience than I could possibly have had. Does the load time take 13 minutes for every sector though, or just Tkr's Deprivation?

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Re: [X3TC 2.5] A true "Proud Moment"

Post by CBJ » Mon, 22. Nov 10, 18:36

redjay wrote:Edit 2: Or not? my stats still are counted..... is the translucent "Modified" normal on an opening post?
That just means your post has been edited since someone replied to it. It has nothing to do with your game. ;)

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Post by Gazz » Mon, 22. Nov 10, 18:39

Has there ever been an argument about "vanilla" posts?
I think that might be a worthy (if somewhat zany) topic. =P
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Post by redjay » Mon, 22. Nov 10, 19:46

Bobucles wrote:It may be time to take a look at the complex cleaner mod.
I've thought of it and dismissed it for now because I'm enjoying Vanilla too much :P
Gazz wrote:
Bobucles wrote:It may be time to take a look at the complex cleaner mod.
Nah, that would have made the building far too easy because all the stations in all TL in a sector could have been built instanteous... and while being OOS.

And most importantly, it wouldn't be a very braggable 1500 station complex or a 13 min load time! =P
True that, perhaps I'll go heavily Modified later when I restart again.
rz8472 wrote:That is quite impressive... and probably took more patience than I could possibly have had. Does the load time take 13 minutes for every sector though, or just Tkr's Deprivation?
Not sure right yet, I'll put a stopwatch to it later today again though.
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redjay wrote:Edit 2: Or not? my stats still are counted..... is the translucent "Modified" normal on an opening post?
That just means your post has been edited since someone replied to it. It has nothing to do with your game. ;)
*Sigh of relief* Thank you!


Edit: Perhaps if there is any demand for it I'll uninstall the "Tubeless" mod and take a few more screenshots....even the thought of trying that is scary though. X_x

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Post by bonalste » Mon, 22. Nov 10, 21:35

You're mental.

Can we have some screenies of this beast?!

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Post by redjay » Mon, 22. Nov 10, 21:45

bonalste wrote:You're mental.

Can we have some screenies of this beast?!

1. True. :P

2. I'll see what I can do, bear in mind these stations are literally "Stacked" 20-25 *inside* of another of the same type. still I'll get some pics :)

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Post by Progress-M » Mon, 22. Nov 10, 21:59

Congratulations, also, you need to get your upper end checked by a registered specialist. :)

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Post by Eisenkalle » Mon, 22. Nov 10, 22:36

Uh I would die thousands of painfull deaths, placing all these stations (even with stacking).

With the standard animation, making a 3rd person flight around the placing TL+station, it is simply disturbing and a total waste of time (my patience!!! rage!). I keep the amount of stations needed for something, e.g. the HUB plot, as small as possible, avoiding this anoying (forced!)animation. :evil:

With more and more stations/mines it gets more FPS drops and totally wastes time, 2-3 other stations could possibly have ben placed (without the animation).


My respect for your patience! ;-)


I also use a "tubeless complex mod" and a "low-Poly Asteroids mod". My game is not classified as a "modified" game, I looked especially for non-"modifying" mods.
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Post by redjay » Mon, 22. Nov 10, 23:14

Eisenkalle wrote:Uh I would die thousands of painfull deaths, placing all these stations (even with stacking).

With the standard animation, making a 3rd person flight around the placing TL+station, it is simply disturbing and a total waste of time (my patience!!! rage!). I keep the amount of stations needed for something, e.g. the HUB plot, as small as possible, avoiding this anoying (forced!)animation. :evil:

With more and more stations/mines it gets more FPS drops and totally wastes time, 2-3 other stations could possibly have ben placed (without the animation).


My respect for your patience! ;-)


I also use a "tubeless complex mod" and a "low-Poly Asteroids mod". My game is not classified as a "modified" game, I looked especially for non-"modifying" mods.
Trust me when I say this was probably worse than a thousand painful deaths (more like 3,000. one for each station PLUS connector) haha!

Meanwhile I can't seem to get the game to load when in Tkr's Deprivation without the Tubeless mod installed....guess its all my crappy computer can do to run it without the tubes! :)

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Post by Eternall_00 » Tue, 23. Nov 10, 00:31

redjay wrote:
Eternall_00 wrote:I find you only need about 10 TLs for mega plex building, as you can send them back for more facs when empty they will return before you empty 3-4 more. Still, quite impressive.

Under most circumstances I do use around 10 TL's. in this case I was sending them to the dangerous Ocean of Fantasy and Zyarths Dominion and had to keep an M2 in that sector as an escort....it was easier to just buy all or most of the stations of each type whilst I had my eye on safety for the TLs rather than letting them go 1 by 1 and (probably) be destroyed. Also I forgot to put it in the main post, But I was using the technique of "Station Stacking" placing 20-25 stations inside of another. I couldnt find the thread were I read about it so couldn't link to it. (This'll be REALLY bad if a Pirate kills the connectors :P )
No Jump Drives? You are hard core!

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Post by redjay » Tue, 23. Nov 10, 01:00

Eternall_00 wrote:
redjay wrote:
Eternall_00 wrote:I find you only need about 10 TLs for mega plex building, as you can send them back for more facs when empty they will return before you empty 3-4 more. Still, quite impressive.

Under most circumstances I do use around 10 TL's. in this case I was sending them to the dangerous Ocean of Fantasy and Zyarths Dominion and had to keep an M2 in that sector as an escort....it was easier to just buy all or most of the stations of each type whilst I had my eye on safety for the TLs rather than letting them go 1 by 1 and (probably) be destroyed. Also I forgot to put it in the main post, But I was using the technique of "Station Stacking" placing 20-25 stations inside of another. I couldnt find the thread were I read about it so couldn't link to it. (This'll be REALLY bad if a Pirate kills the connectors :P )
No Jump Drives? You are hard core!
Actually the Mammoths all had jump drives....'til they ran out of the 3k e-cells each I gave 'em anyways. the Orcas were jump driveless the whole time though (still had to worry about Q's in Zyarths and Ocean of Fantasy for both ship types though.)

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