3D Models and Stats Viewer : Version 2.0.3.2 (12th Dec 2010)

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Post by pepperg » Mon, 24. May 10, 02:41

this program consistently crashes when attempting to load/scan the game data. it loads up until the naval shuffle complex cleaner.cat and then times out. this happens every time i attempt to start the program. any idea what the problem is?

i did direct the program to the proper x3tc folder.
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Post by exogenesis » Mon, 24. May 10, 08:07

Can you give a link to the 'naval shuffle complex cleaner' - I assume that's a mod ?,
google-search of this site doesn't come up with anything ?

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Post by pepperg » Mon, 24. May 10, 18:36

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Post by exogenesis » Tue, 25. May 10, 01:43

OK, was caused by an xml parsing 'fallibility', here's an interim version, should work,
see an interesting set of stats changes there, every ship ?!

http://www.exogenesis.co.uk/XModels3DViewer_2.0.1.6.exe

This is the viewer exe only, rename it to XModels3DViewer.exe if you like,
probably needs to be put in the location previously installed to.

(thanks to draffutt for other testing, without which this wouldn't have
been working for certain mods again/yet - still working on the other stuff)

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Post by darkelfsin » Sat, 26. Jun 10, 22:39

cool......... :lol: :lol:

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Post by Alex Corvis » Tue, 29. Jun 10, 22:19

Since a while I'm using Cadius' Xtra Ship pack. But when I now use the model viewer most of the new ships are not displayed. Maybe it is because of the non-default directory of these ships (objects\ships\Cadius\...)? And another thing: when I install the Ship Rebalance Mod (SRM), which contains Cadius' mod, then the ships are displayed as they should be.

An there are new turrets for the terran ships. InGame they look as they should, but in the viewer these turrets look as big as a M6, maybe even bigger.

And the last thing: Cadius' ships (those which are displayed) seem to flicker in both versions, the SRM and the original from Cadius. So I guess that's a problem of the ships and not of the viewer?

So I want to ask you whether these problems are caused by the mod or by the viewer. I also tried to reinstall the viewer but it didn't help.

Greetings, A. Corvis

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Post by exogenesis » Wed, 30. Jun 10, 01:39

I see the texture flicker on some ships, e.g. the Aomori M7M, think it's to do with special
'layers' in the ship scene/model (in combination of how the viewer renders things).

If you load just the Aomori hull model part it doesn't flicker,
load the 'safety_net' model that looks like a hull skin & you see no flicker either.
But in combination these two models (with very close or co-incident surfaces) cause flicker (in the viewer).

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Mind you, there seems to be a slight 'disconnect' in the up & down turrets there - will have a look at that.


I think that how big 'huge turrets' are supposed to be, isn't it ?
I haven't compared them in-game to check though.

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Don't get why you can see the ships in one mod & the not the same ships in a different mod,
objects/ships/<anything> is fine, as long as the scene file paths is correct in tships,
at least afaik.

I see all the ships here, when testing the XtraShips pack (which is quite impressive set, I have to say).

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Post by Alex Corvis » Wed, 30. Jun 10, 09:11

OK, maybe I should reinstall the mod or the game (or both). But I'll post some screens of the turrets on an Aegir with strange huge turrets when I'm at home again.

The disconnect between the turrets and the ships is problem with the ships. Cadius once said he's cheating the game so that the turrets are shown at the right place InGame although they actually are in a slightly different position. Or something like that.

Greetings, A. Corvis

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Post by Alex Corvis » Wed, 30. Jun 10, 17:54

So here are the pictures:

The menu of the Viewer:as you can see there are only two ship (Proteus and Kvasir) where should be many more.
Then here we have an Aegir with what I call big turrets and a Tyr with big turrets

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Post by exogenesis » Thu, 1. Jul 10, 00:52

Very odd, this is what I get with just xtra_shippack.cat/.dat in \mods dir:

http://www.exogenesis.co.uk/XtraShips_T ... vs_Mod.jpg

I see you're up to 14.cat in main dir + at least one .cat in \mods,
maybe there's some sort of conflict of ship-pack versions going on,
& a partial tships set for the pack in one or the other ?

btw, if we need to go much further with details I think we'd better
carry on in the S&M X3:TC model-viewer thread:
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php? ... 40#2766040

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Post by Alex Corvis » Thu, 1. Jul 10, 08:14

Aaaahhhh, :oops: no we don't need to go on. I checked the viewer version and didn't realize that the actual version is 2.0.3.1 and not 2.0.1.3 which I used :oops:

With the newest version everything is fine.

Thanks.

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Post by exogenesis » Thu, 1. Jul 10, 20:55

Ah ok then,
all well that ends well :)

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Post by orion_1394 » Sat, 21. Aug 10, 18:18

i know this is kinda random but is there anyway to view the models on a computer without the game installed? as in is there only specific files i need in order to view them?
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Post by exogenesis » Sat, 21. Aug 10, 19:28

A small fraction of the file count, but >50% of the total file size is needed for full functionality:

full TC install (no mods or backup files) :
Total Files Listed: 895 File(s) 8,433,881,235 bytes

min files needed for viewer to work:
Total Files Listed: 30 File(s) 4,651,618,269 bytes

The file list seems to be :

all the .dat/cat files (currently 24 files)
X3TC.exe (can be a dummy file with this name)
lang.dat
mov\00001.dat
mov\00044.pck
mov\00144.dat
t\0002.pck


All files above with '44' in them are for English, if you want other languages you need other files,
e.g. the '49' ones for German, & then the text file lang.dat would need to contain 49 instead of 44
(or use the 'change language' in the viewer).

Anyway, not sure why you want to do this since you need >50% of the disc space & the files can
only be got from an installation anyway, so not sure what you looking to do exactly...

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Post by orion_1394 » Sat, 21. Aug 10, 19:52

just want to keep the files on usb so i can view them cause i wanna model out some concept ships so having the 3d model view of them would really help in inspiration as well as understanding some modelling of ships for certain effects
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Post by exogenesis » Tue, 14. Sep 10, 00:15

Not ignored, PMs, but....

No Linix WINE no love - probably too long a haul.
Maybe we can work it out long term, perhaps.

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Post by rkrisher » Sat, 2. Oct 10, 10:55

Well, I tried it in wine on a Debian system but it crashed. If I config wine to run the program as "Windows 98" the main screen does pop up but still dumps an error file. Don't know how to get the dump file to you.

MDMPҤ

is what appears in the dump file.

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Post by exogenesis » Sat, 2. Oct 10, 15:08

Almost went as far as installing a Linux (Ubuntu flavour) + WinE,
but stopped cos I can't see any likely way to get MSVisualStudio
compiler/debugger to work within that environment.

So although the dmp files are showing when/what crashed,
(running MSVisStudio debugger under Windows),
I can't run a debug session of the viewer under Linux to find what's wrong.

This incompatibility (?) crash is most likely to be solved by a Linux version of the viewer,
but can't see me doing that atm, sorry...

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Post by Litcube » Mon, 1. Nov 10, 07:56

Hm. The app won't load. It shows the loading screen, but hangs.

Compatible with Windows 7?

Edit: No .dmp file was created.

Edit: I got it to work, but I had to strip everything except the required files going by your guide:

all the .dat/cat files (currently 24 files)
X3TC.exe (can be a dummy file with this name)
lang.dat
mov\00001.dat
mov\00044.pck
mov\00144.dat
t\0002.pck

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