X3TC Bonus Pack - Script Submission Details
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What about creating two releases instead of waiting for every script to be in a good shape? I wouldn't mind if there'd be a V1.0 and a V2.0 of a BonusPack. Or even sign and release the most important scripts separately.
My personal opinion is that once your trading empire has reached a certain size, it's very cumbersome to play X3TC without CAG / CLS. Those two scripts (and maybe others) are available for a long time now and are thouroulgy tested for X3TC. Why should they not be signed and released now? Just because others don't get their stuff running?
IMHO, I'm also a patient person. I've waited for CAG/CLS to be signed for over 5 months now. I just don't want to get my main game flagged "modified".
Pleeeeeease, give us a little x-mas present - even if it's imcomplete !
What about creating two releases instead of waiting for every script to be in a good shape? I wouldn't mind if there'd be a V1.0 and a V2.0 of a BonusPack. Or even sign and release the most important scripts separately.
My personal opinion is that once your trading empire has reached a certain size, it's very cumbersome to play X3TC without CAG / CLS. Those two scripts (and maybe others) are available for a long time now and are thouroulgy tested for X3TC. Why should they not be signed and released now? Just because others don't get their stuff running?
IMHO, I'm also a patient person. I've waited for CAG/CLS to be signed for over 5 months now. I just don't want to get my main game flagged "modified".
Pleeeeeease, give us a little x-mas present - even if it's imcomplete !
Never give up! Never surrender!
there is, and always has been this availablekurush wrote:I wonder why ES doesn't do the same thing as with patches: sign an RC version and make it available to L3? This way the would expand the tester base to at least one additional person (myself) ...Cycrow wrote:one thing thats slowing down the process is the lack of testing in the level 3 forums
the L3 Script Testing forums has all the current bonus pack material for testing
.Cycrow wrote: there is, and always has been this available
the L3 Script Testing forums has all the current bonus pack material for testing
Is it signed though or will it make my game modified? It was a total surprise for me when I discovered that there is signed patch RC. Could there be another surprise like this?
EDIT:I checked and there appears to be no signature tag in the script files. I assume it is not signed until released. That means I can't run it on a long running game and would have to script everything in just to test it. It does not seem to be a good testing practice...
kurush wrote:That means I can't run it on a long running game and would have to script everything in just to test it. It does not seem to be a good testing practice...
1. You make a backup of you saves first, naturally.
2. Install scripts to test.
3. Load a game and activate Script Editor.
4. Probably save and reload at least once to make sure everything gets loaded "as usual".
5. Test.
6. Continue playing your vanilla game.
The X3TC beta testing Forum is a rather recent addition. Strange, and yet no wonder, that it has gotten all the attention, while the Script Testing Forum has remained desolate.
But whom to "blame"?
The "hard vanilla" players just wait for the Bonuspack, probably not finding even this thread. The first step towards the scripts is the hard one. But they don't know that without their contribution they perhaps will get nothing.
The S&M community has the skill and knowledge. But they are busy on their own work, and besides, they are quite happy with unsigned content. They already do have the stuff that could go to Bonuspack. There is nothing in BP to wait for or work for, is there?
The "middle ground", who do not fear scripts, but see the "benefit" of contributing towards vanilla? They've been busy with the patch beta testing.
A case example of user, who has not done testing: me.
I don't play X3TC yet. Therefore, I do not know the vanilla game yet. When you do not know what is "normal", you may fail to see when the tested script does "Bad Things". Secondly, I lack that "long running game". Well, one could script the stuff in, but then there is chance that artefacts are due to that scripting, rather than from the test subject. Yes, lame excuses.
Most of scripts have to be testing for more than just a couple of hours. You need to keep CAG, CLS and others running for a couple of days to make sure they do what they need and interface with your normal game activities without problems. Also, in X3:TC ES finally came out with stock commands that allow some cheap substitution for CLS (Buy or Sell (-1)). Even for CAG we now have auto-jump but traders tend to always jump to the same trading station and it doesn't work well. CAG alternative is therefore still sadly missing but AI traders fill the gap somehow. The empire building is no longer as unplayable without bonus pack as it used to be in X3:R.You make a backup of you saves first, naturally.
2. Install scripts to test.
3. Load a game and activate Script Editor.
4. Probably save and reload at least once to make sure everything gets loaded "as usual".
5. Test.
6. Continue playing your vanilla game.
one thing your missing thou, is how can you get them to RC phase without any testing ?
RC's are when its already tested and close to release, you cant simply put out a bonus pack to RC and hope it works, so ppl will be willing to test them.
besides, with the beta testing forum for patches, you cant really use the same save games either, not until it gets close to the last RC.
the beta versions are usually modified and not save game compatable with future version.
RC's are when its already tested and close to release, you cant simply put out a bonus pack to RC and hope it works, so ppl will be willing to test them.
besides, with the beta testing forum for patches, you cant really use the same save games either, not until it gets close to the last RC.
the beta versions are usually modified and not save game compatable with future version.
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Yes you are. The released Bonuspack does have its own threads, including general discussion and questions. However, your question belongs to the thread of Ketraar's creation, as per [url=http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=216696][b]T[/b][b]C[/b] [b]S[/b]&M Posting [b]R[/b]ules[/url].Lothai wrote:hey guys i don't know if am out of topic but ...