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delray
  
Joined: 23 Oct 2008
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 Posted: Mon, 11. May 09, 18:16 Post subject: |
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Xadrian is great for math and shopping lists (I often print it so I have a paper copy and don't have to alt+tab) but when your complex grows, it quickly becomes messy due to lack of colours and sorting.
That's why I do my complexes in both Xadrian and the old Calc for Reunion.
Here's how a big complex looks like in Xadrian:
It would be much clearer with colours and sorting by Race and Type...
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TTD
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delray
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| Posted: Mon, 11. May 09, 21:58 Post subject: |
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The guy who did old FCC for Reunion now is busy with Model Viewer.
Also, I like Xadrian and I'd much prefer it improved. 
Hence the feedback.
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TTD
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| Posted: Tue, 12. May 09, 21:51 Post subject: |
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Yeah,I see your point.
After a while it begins to look like a statistics chart rather than an at-a-glance guide.
The latest does have a little more user-controlled variables though,so when I have moved on a bit in TC,I'll move over to that.
The bit I like particularly is seeing clearly the hourly production cycles,without having to slide the page across the screen. (even if you do have to scroll up or down,which is my choice of preference).
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delray
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| Posted: Tue, 26. May 09, 11:16 Post subject: |
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Is this tool still developed?
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KiwiNZ
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| Posted: Tue, 26. May 09, 13:46 Post subject: |
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I just downloaded this tool and it really is very nice. Not sure how it runs on Windows but I am using it on my Mac, so I can have it open parallel to playing.  In regards to updating, any chance you could leave the xml uncompiled instead of wrapping it into a jar? It would then allow other users to do some work on it, i.e., update content without you having to do all the work.
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kayahr
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| Posted: Thu, 28. May 09, 07:57 Post subject: |
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| delray wrote: |
| Is this tool still developed? |
At least I'm still alive but currently occupied with other projects. But hey, Xadrian is Open Source. So if someone feels the urge to improve Xadrian and knows how to program in Java and knows a little bit about the Swing API then download the sources, develop a cool new feature and send me patches and if I like the new feature I could apply them. And even if I don't like the the patch then you can still distribute the modified Xadrian yourself according to the license. 
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kayahr
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| Posted: Thu, 28. May 09, 08:13 Post subject: |
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| KiwiNZ wrote: |
| I just downloaded this tool and it really is very nice. Not sure how it runs on Windows but I am using it on my Mac, so I can have it open parallel to playing. In regards to updating, any chance you could leave the xml uncompiled instead of wrapping it into a jar? It would then allow other users to do some work on it, i.e., update content without you having to do all the work. |
Yes. I could place them outside of the JAR the next time. I'll think about it.
But for now you could simply modify the files anyway. JAR files are just ZIP-Files with a different file extension so you could open and modify them with a ZIP archiver. Don't know how it works on a Mac. If you can't open a JAR directly then maybe you could create a symbolic link from xadrian.jar to xadrian.zip and then double-click this zip file.
On Linux I can simply double-click the xadrian.jar, navigate to de/ailis/xadrian/data, right-click one of the XML-files and choose to open it with the text editor. When I change something and save the file then the archiver asks if I want to update the ZIP file. So I simply click OK and when starting Xadrian then it will use the modified XML file.
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KiwiNZ
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| Posted: Thu, 28. May 09, 13:42 Post subject: |
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Ah, interesting point. Looking back at it, the unarchiver was actually the second choice of application my Mac offered and I just ignored it. 
You must be German, the xml file is so tidy. 
Great job with the tool, btw. I abandoned all my plans of making something like that myself, as there is no need having seen your utility.
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kayahr
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| Posted: Thu, 11. Jun 09, 22:17 Post subject: |
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A new version (1.2.1) is available. No new funky features. Just added the new crystal fabs of size L which were introduced in X3TC 2.1
As usual the new version can be downloaded here:
http://www.ailis.de/~k/projects/xadrian/download.html
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Roger L.S. Griffiths
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| Posted: Fri, 12. Jun 09, 00:34 Post subject: |
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The L size protein paste fab was also added in 2.1 but it is missing from Xadrian.
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kayahr
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| Posted: Fri, 12. Jun 09, 09:11 Post subject: |
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| Roger L.S. Griffiths wrote: |
The L size protein paste fab was also added in 2.1 but it is missing from Xadrian. |
Ah, I missed that one in the ChangeLog (and still can't find it there). I'll add that this evening or this weekend.
Any other changes which were made but not announced? Unfortunately I can no longer use my data dump script to simply export the data since X3TC 2.0. Would be nice if Egosoft would create a special Game Start which starts the game with the Aldrin plot already finished. Than I could use this start as reference start for the export.
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JFJohnny5
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| Posted: Fri, 12. Jun 09, 16:39 Post subject: |
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Wow. Really nice app! Well done man. Just wanted to offer my thanks. Will be using this a LOT.
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kayahr
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| Posted: Sun, 14. Jun 09, 21:31 Post subject: |
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| Roger L.S. Griffiths wrote: |
The L size protein paste fab was also added in 2.1 but it is missing from Xadrian. |
Sorry, but where the hell is this fab? The terran ship yard still only has the M size protein paste fab. The data dump also does not contain the L version of this fab. So it looks to me that this fab is a myth. Or is it a bug and it does not appear when I have finished the Aldrin plot with X3TC 2.0? Maybe the patch forgot to add it to an already existing terran ship yard? Can someone confirm that this fab exists?
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Roger L.S. Griffiths
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| Posted: Sun, 14. Jun 09, 22:17 Post subject: |
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| kayahr wrote: |
| Roger L.S. Griffiths wrote: |
The L size protein paste fab was also added in 2.1 but it is missing from Xadrian. |
Sorry, but where the hell is this fab? The terran ship yard still only has the M size protein paste fab. The data dump also does not contain the L version of this fab. So it looks to me that this fab is a myth. Or is it a bug and it does not appear when I have finished the Aldrin plot with X3TC 2.0? Maybe the patch forgot to add it to an already existing terran ship yard? Can someone confirm that this fab exists? |
Just double checked in my 2.0a completed game and verified it was there and it is... in the logical place too rather than shoved to the bottom of the list as with the Commonwealth Crystal Fab Ls.
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