3D Models and Stats Viewer : Version 2.0.3.2 (12th Dec 2010)

[exogenesis]

NeverSnake
Interesting that 'invalid args' went, not sure I can explain that.
Good to hear it works on Vista64.
A) Loading .bod/.bob files without loading the game-files - difficult, since it needs to know where e.g. bod-scene component bod/bob files are in the cat files,
but you're right it wouldn't need to parse the T*.txt game-files- maybe I'll add a 'quick load' sticky option.
B) Multithreading - haven't thought about that yet, don't think it would help tbh.
The spray shop slowness is due to it actually changing the textures in memory on-the-fly, it shouldn't affect the final rendering fame rate.
Actually since textures got a lot bigger in TC (4x typical), this is a lot slower than it was in Reunion.
If I could find out how to use the Egosoft-shader light-rendering correctly, this would be very much quicker, cos it would be the same as in-game (ie instantaneous).

Old Silver : cheers *has another swig of beer*

ianrobo75 : can't explain that, but I haven't approached Chrome with a long barge pole myself

ephemeron : cheers *has another swig of beer*

BugMeister
At what point does that appear - after loading the game-files, or when loading a ship?


surferx : cheers *has another swig of beer*
These extra features are what took me so long to get a release out.

Hey my glass is empty ! *pops another can*



MBD
Downloaded that pluginmanager.cat, thanks. Seems a bit small to contain much, will have a test
Getting a 'not a valid JPEG file' from the filefactory download 'screenshot.jpg'
Hey were'd your post go!

[IvanC]

uh-oh..
- I'm getting one of these..
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- running XP SP3

I had the same problem. I have a few fake patches, scripts and 2 mods. What worked for me is leaving the Plugin Manager opened and minimized it. It loads unmodded, mod1, and mod2. Works like a champ.

exogenesis, awsome program dude, Thank you.

[MBD]

Downloaded that pluginmanager.cat, thanks. Seems a bit small to contain much, will have a test

After I originally submitted the post I thought it was the wrong file. I deleted the post so I could go and check it without leaving a link to a possible wrong file.

Getting a 'not a valid JPEG file' from the filefactory download 'screenshot.jpg'

Strange. After I saved the screenie to the desktop I opened it with the 'Windows Picture and Fax Viewer' without any problems. After I uploaded it, I dl it to check to see if the linky was OK. It also opened.

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Hey were'd your post go!

Here it is again:

Strange, my X3:R 2.5 + XTM + Ashley(XTM) works fine, I thought Ashley standalone was a higher version than 1.32 ?

Updated to Ashley v2.5. Crashes at the same point as v1.32.

When you say ' & ships', I assume you've added some individual ships via plugin manager?

You assume correctly. The ships appear correctly in the game.

Could you upload that pluginmanager.cat somewhere so I can test it?

http://www.filefactory.com/file/afh3b8b ... anager_cat

Also try the diagnostic mode as above.

http://www.filefactory.com/file/afh3b79 ... enshot_jpg

[BugMeister]

uh-oh..
- I'm getting one of these..
[ external image ]

- running XP SP3

I had the same problem. I have a few fake patches, scripts and 2 mods. What worked for me is leaving the Plugin Manager opened and minimized it. It loads unmodded, mod1, and mod2. Works like a champ.

exogenesis, awsome program dude, Thank you.

..wow, that sorts the problem out perfectly - cheers, IvanC

- this is a brilliant piece of work, exo
- the graphics are amazing - great design - love the new icons, etc
- now the player can really check out those weak spots on the enemy's craft in detail..

- it is the "must-have" addition to the game..!!

[Shadow_180]

uh-oh..
- I'm getting one of these..
[ external image ]

- running XP SP3

I had the same problem. I have a few fake patches, scripts and 2 mods. What worked for me is leaving the Plugin Manager opened and minimized it. It loads unmodded, mod1, and mod2. Works like a champ.

exogenesis, awsome program dude, Thank you.

I can also confirm that this fixes the problem (for me at least)

Pretty sure when playing X3:R I spent more time using the models viewer than I did playing the actual game. Now with all these sweet new features I might never manage to start X3:TC again!

[dalin80]

great.

its great to see the turret coverage on most ships but it does give me errors on trying to load the K or J.

[exogenesis]

IvanC & BugMeister
that's really odd about needing pluginmanager open, implies a system dll version problem - I'll investigate

MBD
thanks for the info, will investigate, it's probable I've only tested Ashley v2.3 XTM specific, not the v2.5 'general' version.

dalin80
What sort of error do you get with the K & J ?

[dalin80]

'illegal operation'

but its only intermittent , killing the app and restarting can get it working again 50% of the time.

[NeverSnake]

A) Loading .bod/.bob files without loading the game-files - difficult, since it needs to know where e.g. bod-scene component bod/bob files are in the cat files,
but you're right it wouldn't need to parse the T*.txt game-files- maybe I'll add a 'quick load' sticky option.

a) sorry, that may have been bad phrasing on my part. I was just suggesting adding a gate to the list of things that can be opened within the viewer rather than having to point the viewer to it's files manually.

[Sinuhe]

You don't need to leave Pluginmanager open. For me it works perfectly, when I delete or temporarily move 0X.cat and *.dat files, which are created by the manager, to another directory. Maybe the slightly modified versions of TWareT.txt and/or TWareN.txt inside the *.cat cause the crash.

[exogenesis]

NeverSnake
I see, maybe there are some other 'common' objects, that could be put into a 'miscellaneous' selection-grid.
I might still do shields & wares stats-only grids.

[exogenesis]

New version 2.0.0.2, no new features,
but loads a lot quicker & copes with TC mods better (I think).

Please give any problems/functionality feedback if possible, cheers.

[BugMeister]

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- Split say: "This very quickly working is..!!?"

[PabloRSA]

Split and Argon chip plants give me an invalid argument error while loading there pictures with stats.

I have vanilla install.

I will test all the others but so far 3 additonal ones with errors.

Please wait........

Ok it seems only to show if there has been a blank space selected.

[exogenesis]

It's wonderful what a bit of pre-indexing does for loading speed,
actually I was quite surprised to get the game-file load this quick
(1.692 secs on my old dog of a PC)

PabloRSA
That occasional 'invalid argument' error is random, still trying to track it down...

[IvanC]

@ exogenesis, you're not lying about quick loading times with v2.0.0.2 . It also fixed problem with Plugin Manager having to be opened. Thanks again.

[ianrobo75]

:That occasional 'invalid argument' error is random, still trying to track it down...

I get 'An invalid argument was encountered' quite often but only when loading the ship models, never just the stats (not loaded anything other than ships). I just close the child window and select and open the ship from the ships sheet again and it works fine.
Vista SP1 - Viewer V2.0.0.2

[BugMeister]

@ exogenesis, you're not lying about quick loading times with v2.0.0.2 . It also fixed problem with Plugin Manager having to be opened. Thanks again.

- that wee problem has cleared on my rig, as well..
- it fire's up straight away now..

[exogenesis]

A run of good news then

[draffutt]

hello exogenesis:

i have further info on that glitch i had mentioned with the turret.

here are some examples:

here is an object floating in space in front of the ka'ak ship in game:
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now here it is in the viewer. as you can see instead of it floating in space; its inside the frame of the ship. (that is where i found the object)
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(different bug?) and another here is a xenon turret floating in space:

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and here in viewer you can see its attached to the hull supposely:

[ external image ] and also using this image as an example. (the original glitch) related even thou the viewer show the turrets pointing forward in my game they were pointing straight up


these are all changes i made. it almost as if for the turrets it reading the original location/position data instead of the player updated. for the first bug it appears there is a value switched somewhere.

would it be possible to have viewer remember its window position in a future update for those of use with 2 or more monitors?

[bug] with a ka'ak ship opened in view and show weapon beams active. when mousing over a kyon base weapon doesn't cause the greenish beam to flash blue on screen. also can you change the color for missile launchers (for the M8 class at least?) since that is the primary weapon.