Ship Capture Guide: X2 Version 2 (Updated for 1.4)
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Hi!
First of all, thank you AL and every one else in this thread that has discussed and written lots of good things
But now i have a question...
Iv been playing X2 on Normal difficulty from the beginning having 2 working SPP's, about 1 milion CR and a total of 10 ships.
Im at the point where President's End have got invaded by the Khaak.
Yesterday i captured about 3-4 Pirate Ships with my Bayamon in about 1 hr. Today i havnt been able to capture a single ship Is the capping-rate depending on what difficulty im playing at? And might my low combat rank have anything to do with i cant capture as much as you can?
Im playing on V 1.4.
Thank you for your help!
First of all, thank you AL and every one else in this thread that has discussed and written lots of good things
But now i have a question...
Iv been playing X2 on Normal difficulty from the beginning having 2 working SPP's, about 1 milion CR and a total of 10 ships.
Im at the point where President's End have got invaded by the Khaak.
Yesterday i captured about 3-4 Pirate Ships with my Bayamon in about 1 hr. Today i havnt been able to capture a single ship Is the capping-rate depending on what difficulty im playing at? And might my low combat rank have anything to do with i cant capture as much as you can?
Im playing on V 1.4.
Thank you for your help!
Rookie X2 player
yep for me, when i've put the difficulty at the highest level, my rate of cap ship as drop drastcly
But i was in 1.2 and from then i played the game with a "lot of stuff"
so i'm not sure, but i think it's the same
And personnally i don't think the Disco is a good ship for capturing, i need a M4, i usually take a Mako, because i can buy it after the Mi Ton's mission because i sell the shields of the TP
It's a better reward than Elena's TS!
But i was in 1.2 and from then i played the game with a "lot of stuff"
so i'm not sure, but i think it's the same
And personnally i don't think the Disco is a good ship for capturing, i need a M4, i usually take a Mako, because i can buy it after the Mi Ton's mission because i sell the shields of the TP
It's a better reward than Elena's TS!
I got my Bayamon (which im currently using) when i was capping with my Disco. That capture went quite easy, but afterwards its up and downadobis wrote:yep for me, when i've put the difficulty at the highest level, my rate of cap ship as drop drastcly
But i was in 1.2 and from then i played the game with a "lot of stuff"
so i'm not sure, but i think it's the same
And personnally i don't think the Disco is a good ship for capturing, i need a M4, i usually take a Mako, because i can buy it after the Mi Ton's mission because i sell the shields of the TP
It's a better reward than Elena's TS!
Right now my SPP are making me some money, but it would be much more fun to do something more than just having SPP's
Thank you for your help!
Edit: Just read this on Argonopedia
"The difficulty setting only affects your starting cash and which upgrades you have on the ship you are given at the start of the game. It has no effect on combat difficulty, rewards, or anything else in the game."
Rookie X2 player
Well i was maybe mistaking, and that's correct that i shoot like a psycho!!Shaf wrote: Edit: Just read this on Argonopedia
"The difficulty setting only affects your starting cash and which upgrades you have on the ship you are given at the start of the game. It has no effect on combat difficulty, rewards, or anything else in the game."
However at the beginning i thought it was gonna be fun to cap ships but after having cap more than 500 ships it begins to be boring
That's there that i made a real company with about 90 factories and a lot of ideas and then my computer crashes and i've to begin from nothing
Well, if you wanna cap ships, you'll destroy a lot anyway so don't forget the Police license to get a little reward when you destroye ships
Too bad hearing about your computeradobis wrote:Well i was maybe mistaking, and that's correct that i shoot like a psycho!!Shaf wrote: Edit: Just read this on Argonopedia
"The difficulty setting only affects your starting cash and which upgrades you have on the ship you are given at the start of the game. It has no effect on combat difficulty, rewards, or anything else in the game."
However at the beginning i thought it was gonna be fun to cap ships but after having cap more than 500 ships it begins to be boring
That's there that i made a real company with about 90 factories and a lot of ideas and then my computer crashes and i've to begin from nothing
Well, if you wanna cap ships, you'll destroy a lot anyway so don't forget the Police license to get a little reward when you destroye ships
Destroying ships with the IONS and low power lasers isnt quite fast...
And i dont know where to put the money i get from my SPP's as im fairly new to this game
Thank you!
Rookie X2 player
Capturing is random. Random means you will often get periods when nobody seems to want to bail, or periods when you capture virtually every ship you go for--you just have to wait for the numbers to swing your way again.Shaf wrote: Yesterday i captured about 3-4 Pirate Ships with my Bayamon in about 1 hr. Today i havnt been able to capture a single ship
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My Nova had a cargo space capacity enough large, and when i had it nearly full, i jump to the closer dock and i sell allNightwatch wrote:You can still make money from the situation. Have a ship (Manta would be good) travel behind you picking up all the loot the ships you blow up drops. I think there was a command to pick up look in X2, but I'm not sure at this stage.. Either way, pick up the look and sell it. Its free creditzzz.
Cool - thanks for the advice! I'm pretty new to this, but managed to capture three Pirate Ships so far in my Disco. I don't have a joystick so lasers are not much fun. I have found that a spread of ten Wasps fired quickly from any front quarter of a PS has a good chance of triggering a capture. They have to strike from the front/side so that the turret doesn't take them out. I've sold two and put one to work buying/selling power cells in The Wall.
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Yer as nibbs said capturing is just randum.Cool - thanks for the advice! I'm pretty new to this, but managed to capture three Pirate Ships so far in my Disco. I don't have a joystick so lasers are not much fun. I have found that a spread of ten Wasps fired quickly from any front quarter of a PS has a good chance of triggering a capture. They have to strike from the front/side so that the turret doesn't take them out. I've sold two and put one to work buying/selling power cells in The Wall.
Give you a clue how many ships I've capped in this game.
I've got 196 pirate TS's working for me and my stats say I've captured 412 slaves
and thats on extremme
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I have found that the fasted captures and highest probability of the pilot bailing is when you drain their sheilds and knock their hull down to 87% in one burst of fire. It seems to show them that you could kill them in an instant and they bail. If you have to work for a while to slowly chip away at them they seem way less likely to bail, however you dont always get a perfect line-up for an easy long burst.
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I was just thinking about that, in another context. Khaaks come a lot in Ore Belt where I have two mines so there is always stuff drifting in space. Is there really a way to order a ship to loot ?Nightwatch wrote:You can still make money from the situation. Have a ship (Manta would be good) travel behind you picking up all the loot the ships you blow up drops. I think there was a command to pick up look in X2, but I'm not sure at this stage.. Either way, pick up the look and sell it. Its free creditzzz.
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nice to see this thread is still going
I'll maybe even try and get a quide written for X3:TC (provided it runs on my system!)
I'll maybe even try and get a quide written for X3:TC (provided it runs on my system!)
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Woohoo! Just captured my first Bayamon with my nearly-stock Disco thanks to this guide. Thank you so much for walking us through it, Al!
For the record my Disco has:
2 x Alpha IRE
1 x 1MW shield
Partially upgraded speed
Stock steering
It took several reloads, but 3 WASPs and a flurry of AIRE fire and it was all mine!
For the record my Disco has:
2 x Alpha IRE
1 x 1MW shield
Partially upgraded speed
Stock steering
It took several reloads, but 3 WASPs and a flurry of AIRE fire and it was all mine!
I would like to say Thanks you Al for this thread. Certanly the time it has been active shows out its value without doubt!!
Im practically a complete noob at this game since i got it a bit ago, (just started 3 times, my very first getting in the plot till i got stuck by the need of a bigger ship , and the second was better but did not get too far from the begining when i got a PC issue (HD death) and had to restart this thirth time after fixing my PC)
Your Guide really boost me up fast in the game, i would like to share this little sand grain to your big mountain...
Fast way of getting money early by CAPing:
- since i did the second misson "stripping out the TP" to get those nearly 400k, ( and toke note of what Saya tells you of carring E Cells with u to boron territory ) end with around 450K, then fixed my disco. (personally belive is the faster way to do it)
- i headed to the pirate sectors, but i finded better results at "Priest´s Pity"
i did almost all my caps here (besides get u good rep with the Paranide ).
- with a little patience u can cap a bayamon following Al´s GUIDE, for me was quite easy ( just reloaded twice till i learned to STAY BEHIND HIM!! )
- i got it with a hull of 68% so is not difficult to
- If u administrated your roughly 450k from second mission when equiping the disco, then u should have enough to fix it, arm it with 4 GIRE and 2 5MW shields that u can get from, oh surprise! the paranid factory at Priest´s Pity! (this if u killed enough pirates to get the proper rep with them, no difficult, 3 or 4 Mandalays will do it),else u can get them from the teladi at Sizewell sector.
- now u can go and cap more bayamon till u have enough to pay for 4 BPAC, ( not difficult either)
- i have my Bayamon with 4 BPAC and focused in CAPing Orinocos, they worth 300k+ even for a badly dmged hull and the BPAC does a wonderfull job, just pay attention to the target´s hull since once the shield is down, hull is easyly wasted by the PACs
in less than 3 hours from begining managed to cap like 3 Mandalays (this because they bailed when shoted since i proly blow them out, they dont worth the effort),4 Bayamon and like 6 Orinocos and a couple of pirate ship (those TS class)and had to stop due to the fact that i did like 2 millons from them ( minus some fixing, restocking wasp missiles, changing from ire to pac).
TIP: My best tactic with Bayamons, close from behind, fire 2 wasp in a row (give it a second of timeing, more or less or the second wasp will blow the first in your face) (they drain practicaly the whole shield) drain a bit the hull and let it regain a bit of shield, keep buggin it till it bails
TIP 2: If u want to cap a BAY or an ORINOCO that come with escort of Mandalays and/or Bayamons, u can "dispose" of that escort: 2 wasp for a Mandalay and 3 for a Bayamon do the job
Personaly i target the Mandalays from behind at around 1 Km and fire rapidely a serie of 2 wasp at each before the first one get hitted so none escape ( they break formation once the first get hitted) in 4 or 5 second the escorted ship find itself "alone", get behind your targeted ship before it have time to turn on you and begin the "bugging till bails out" procedure
These tactics worked terrificly good for me, (take note that im noob at this wonderfull game). now i have to investigate furter in the game to know what do with the money
Im practically a complete noob at this game since i got it a bit ago, (just started 3 times, my very first getting in the plot till i got stuck by the need of a bigger ship , and the second was better but did not get too far from the begining when i got a PC issue (HD death) and had to restart this thirth time after fixing my PC)
Your Guide really boost me up fast in the game, i would like to share this little sand grain to your big mountain...
Fast way of getting money early by CAPing:
- since i did the second misson "stripping out the TP" to get those nearly 400k, ( and toke note of what Saya tells you of carring E Cells with u to boron territory ) end with around 450K, then fixed my disco. (personally belive is the faster way to do it)
- i headed to the pirate sectors, but i finded better results at "Priest´s Pity"
i did almost all my caps here (besides get u good rep with the Paranide ).
- with a little patience u can cap a bayamon following Al´s GUIDE, for me was quite easy ( just reloaded twice till i learned to STAY BEHIND HIM!! )
- i got it with a hull of 68% so is not difficult to
- If u administrated your roughly 450k from second mission when equiping the disco, then u should have enough to fix it, arm it with 4 GIRE and 2 5MW shields that u can get from, oh surprise! the paranid factory at Priest´s Pity! (this if u killed enough pirates to get the proper rep with them, no difficult, 3 or 4 Mandalays will do it),else u can get them from the teladi at Sizewell sector.
- now u can go and cap more bayamon till u have enough to pay for 4 BPAC, ( not difficult either)
- i have my Bayamon with 4 BPAC and focused in CAPing Orinocos, they worth 300k+ even for a badly dmged hull and the BPAC does a wonderfull job, just pay attention to the target´s hull since once the shield is down, hull is easyly wasted by the PACs
in less than 3 hours from begining managed to cap like 3 Mandalays (this because they bailed when shoted since i proly blow them out, they dont worth the effort),4 Bayamon and like 6 Orinocos and a couple of pirate ship (those TS class)and had to stop due to the fact that i did like 2 millons from them ( minus some fixing, restocking wasp missiles, changing from ire to pac).
TIP: My best tactic with Bayamons, close from behind, fire 2 wasp in a row (give it a second of timeing, more or less or the second wasp will blow the first in your face) (they drain practicaly the whole shield) drain a bit the hull and let it regain a bit of shield, keep buggin it till it bails
TIP 2: If u want to cap a BAY or an ORINOCO that come with escort of Mandalays and/or Bayamons, u can "dispose" of that escort: 2 wasp for a Mandalay and 3 for a Bayamon do the job
Personaly i target the Mandalays from behind at around 1 Km and fire rapidely a serie of 2 wasp at each before the first one get hitted so none escape ( they break formation once the first get hitted) in 4 or 5 second the escorted ship find itself "alone", get behind your targeted ship before it have time to turn on you and begin the "bugging till bails out" procedure
These tactics worked terrificly good for me, (take note that im noob at this wonderfull game). now i have to investigate furter in the game to know what do with the money
Failing is not the end... is just one more step.
(I did not want to run proly into X3 before enjoying X2 and all it have to offer, besides give some time to developers to fixing all those bugs of TC)
(I did not want to run proly into X3 before enjoying X2 and all it have to offer, besides give some time to developers to fixing all those bugs of TC)
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MISSION ACOMPLISHED!!!Buy a few Ion Disrupters and go hunting Khaak M3's cap one of those with weapons and you'll net about 5 million a ship.
On my first try hehehe
followed that damn Khaak swarm for like 15 mins trought Ore Belt ( frome safe distance of cource ), then happened, the M3 breaks following a Mercury and the rest got caught by the Colossus patroling there. The M3 is away and distracted with the Mercury, fall behind him with my Bayamon (is now armed with 4 BPAC and 2 ION so i can shoot 4; 2-2 or only 2) switched to 2-2 till i almost blew him and then switched to only 2 ION and bugged him like 10 mins...
then, the magic happened, targeting switched from red to blue and i was jumping in my seat.
My first try and CAPed an M3 Khaak
Failing is not the end... is just one more step.
(I did not want to run proly into X3 before enjoying X2 and all it have to offer, besides give some time to developers to fixing all those bugs of TC)
(I did not want to run proly into X3 before enjoying X2 and all it have to offer, besides give some time to developers to fixing all those bugs of TC)
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Well done Nymrod, congratulationsMy first try and CAPed an M3 Khaak
Did the ship still have those unknown objects in its weapon mounts if it has your in the money.
But before you decide to sell it take it for a spin.
You'll find its the most orsum killing machine you can lay your hands on
With fight commands fitted and auto aiming you'll be able to destroy Khaak clusters in no time with that baby.