[AP] Data on hidden ships and crates mined from data files (spoilers)

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[AP] Data on hidden ships and crates mined from data files (spoilers)

Post by Moxx2 »

I found out where the game spawns the hidden ships and crates. It is in the script "3.08 Sector Management.pck" near the end of the file.

For crates the game spawns eight, either engine tunings or rudder tunings. It spawns 2-5 each per crate.

As for ships it seems you can get:
one of:
100% - Kha'ak M6 with default loadouts
any mix of eight of:
30% - Kha'ak M4 or M5 with max loadouts
70% - Kha'ak M4 or M5 with minimum loadouts
any mix of four of:
30% - Eclipse Prototype or Mercury Prototype or Demeter Prototype or Advanced Perseus or Enhanced Dolphin or Enhanced Mako or Enhanced Chimera or Scorpion Prototype or Toucan Prototype or Falcon Prototype with max loadouts
70% - Kha'ak M3 or M4 with max loadouts
two of:
30% - Kha'ak M3 with default loadouts

I didnt bother to decipher the sectors, as they are pretty random and it wouldn't help much.
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Post by Catra »

knowing where they might be is abit more important than what they are....

also, lol falcon prototype.
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Post by Aro »

Hopefully get the game soon, don't find it too difficult to peruse director files.
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Post by Vim Razz »

So... there are at ~most~ 4 non-kha'ak derelicts, then? Probably just one in the entire map, and possibly none at all?

I'm not sure if I'm reading the spawn listings right.
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Post by froger »

so could someone chage this file to make it spawn any ship with out using a modding programe
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Post by TTD »

I keep finding ships with "unknown object" as Pilot.

One was a Ka'ahk Corvette, just spinning in one position

Another was a Mammoth in Yaki space ,moving around.
I believe this one is a known ship carried over from a previous plot
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Re: [AP] Data on hidden ships and crates mined from data files (spoilers)

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Moxx2 wrote: 100% - Kha'ak M6 with default loadouts
Does this mean you can get your hands on a corvette? I do not own AP, but I am curious as a TC player.
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Post by Master of the Blade »

Eisenkalle wrote:Does this mean you can get your hands on a corvette? I do not own AP, but I am curious as a TC player.
Sounds like that was the intention, but at the moment all the abandoned ships (the Kha'ak ones at least) have a 'placeholder pilot' - they aren't active, but they have an unknown object as their pilot so cannot be captured without actually making this thing bail first. So, no Korvettes yet, possibly even at all.
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Post by Eisenkalle »

Master of the Blade wrote:
Sounds like that was the intention, but at the moment all the abandoned ships (the Kha'ak ones at least) have a 'placeholder pilot' - they aren't active, but they have an unknown object as their pilot so cannot be captured without actually making this thing bail first. So, no Korvettes yet, possibly even at all.
Thank you for your reply.

Intent... Fail... ;-)

Well, at least I managed to get my hands on a Bomber by coincidence in TCs OFF Plot.
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Post by kurush »

So, it looks like they totally forgot Advanced Mamba? It is not on shipyards and not in random spawn. I also haven't seen it flying around... Bummer.
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Post by Moxx2 »

The director script sets the M6 as unsellable, yet more evidence that the intent was for the player to be able to capture it. The script also sets the pilot to "abandoned". I don't know much about the director but it could be possible that this is not a valid value so that it gets translated to "Unknown Object"

Also, the non Kha'ak ships, if they do spawn (about 76% chance for one, <1% for all 4), spawn with the hidden flag. So you cant target them at all.. which means I dont think its possible to obtain them.. strange.

As for sectors, most ships can spawn anywhere from 1-3 sectors away from Argon Prime, Siezewell, Trinity Sanctum, Great Reef, Cardinals Domain, Avarice, Omicron Lyrae, Family Pride, Home of Opportunity, Bluish Snout, Grand Exchange, Megnir, or Queen's Retribution. It handles the M6 different. So that doesn't help much..
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Post by aquatica »

I actually found a Kha'ak Scout. It had "Unknown Object" as a pilot, but... Guess what? I went in close, hit "Claim" and it was mine! It was just floating around doing nothing, wasn't even hostile towards sector patrol (they let it be), so... Dunno.

I'd _LOVE_ to find Kha'ak M6! Would totally own :D
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Post by Aro »

From the sounds of it the pilot may be set incorrectly, had the same problem when making the plot skipper for TC.

@froger, yeah it's easy to edit director files. I used notepad ^^
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Post by Xenon_C »

Just fought a bunch of Ka'ak doing an escort mission with Xtended and version 3.1 vanilla.

I damaged The corvette leaving it at 47% hull and suddenly was desactivated, just like a classical bailout, but I cannot claim it :evil:

Definitly, there is a bug there...

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Post by Capt Caveman »

but where do i find this file? :?
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Post by infy dev »

Are the crates spawned in random locations or fixed?

(I thought they were random, but I can't help but notice crate symbols on this map I'm using...)
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Post by Moxx2 »

The crates appear in random pirate sectors.
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Post by Ripskar »

I notice that a crate appeared in exactly the same spot as described by someone else on the board.
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Post by Rhox »

Eisenkalle wrote:
Master of the Blade wrote:
Sounds like that was the intention, but at the moment all the abandoned ships (the Kha'ak ones at least) have a 'placeholder pilot' - they aren't active, but they have an unknown object as their pilot so cannot be captured without actually making this thing bail first. So, no Korvettes yet, possibly even at all.
Thank you for your reply.

Intent... Fail... ;-)

Well, at least I managed to get my hands on a Bomber by coincidence in TCs OFF Plot.
No fail. Someone now got his hands on the corvette he found: look here

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