[X3LU] Mayhem 3.21b

worsin · Post by **worsin** » Wed, 7. Mar 18, 10:23

Few quick questions

1. Does the size of the asteroid matter when building an Ore or Silicon mine?
2. Can you lose threat without losing a sector?
3. What actually makes you gain threat? I'm now a threat 4 and have only 2 sectors.

Sirrobert · Post by **Sirrobert** » Wed, 7. Mar 18, 12:02

worsin wrote:Few quick questions

1. Does the size of the asteroid matter when building an Ore or Silicon mine?
2. Can you lose threat without losing a sector?
3. What actually makes you gain threat? I'm now a threat 4 and have only 2 sectors.

1: The yield levels matter, just as always.
2: Nope
3: You gain 1 point for each sector you take, and for every 24 hours of play.
Also for refunding a trait I think.

worsin · Post by **worsin** » Wed, 7. Mar 18, 20:52

Sirrobert wrote:
worsin wrote:Few quick questions

1. Does the size of the asteroid matter when building an Ore or Silicon mine?
2. Can you lose threat without losing a sector?
3. What actually makes you gain threat? I'm now a threat 4 and have only 2 sectors.
1: The yield levels matter, just as always.
2: Nope
3: You gain 1 point for each sector you take, and for every 24 hours of play.
Also for refunding a trait I think.

Ahh ty very much!

worsin · Post by **worsin** » Fri, 9. Mar 18, 09:46

I got sick of the pressure of the OCV and wanted a more relaxed game so I am trying the Vagrant setting.

This is NOT easier than the default EASY mode selection.

1. You start with nothing
2. All factions will attack on sight
3. You drop down a station and get almost immediately attacked by A LOT of ships wiping out the station. You need to build up a decent defense before you can claim anything.
4. The starter ship sucks
5. The starter TS that spawns without a pilot gets either gets taken and is unclaimable before you can get it or you get blown out of the sky because you have 0 shields and its slow as molasses making it useless.

All of these factors actually make this mode harder in my opinion. Just thought ide give some feedback from a pretty new player. I had a much easier time with the default game than this one regardless of the OCV.

I would encourage you to just make this mode the same as the default starting but without the OCV. In its current state its more difficult.

Hector0x · Post by **Hector0x** » Fri, 9. Mar 18, 15:01

worsin wrote:I would encourage you to just make this mode the same as the default starting but without the OCV. In its current state its more difficult.

You can do that right now. Edit

9972-L044.xml

in your addon t folder and crank up the OCV min/max timers

lostProfitssssArrgh · Post by **lostProfitssssArrgh** » Fri, 9. Mar 18, 20:00

Hi all,

Here's an 'X-Treme' game start, for those looking for a change of pace.

Short description: You're permanently at war with everyone.

The starting point is similar to the OCVHunter start, except that OCV waves are the standard interval apart and you're given the means to set up your first Sanctuary along with enough to cover basic station construction.

Disclaimer: You'll need to replace some of the Mayhem original files to add this game start, so make sure to back them up before replacing them. The provided files are for version 2.37 of Mayhem only.

Permissions: Anyone can do whatever they want with these files as long as proper credit is given where due.

--> FILE <--

Good luck,
-LPA

Falcrack · Post by **Falcrack** » Sat, 10. Mar 18, 14:58

Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere, but I can't seem to figure out what determines whether my sanctuary will be producing E-cells. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. I don't have the e-cell perk selected. When it does produce e-cells, it seems directly proportional to the amount of population in the sanctuary (like 4 e-cells per person).

What do I need to do to make sure they keep producing e-cells? Or is it just a cyclical thing, produce e-cells for a while, then stop for a while?

jlvitorasso · Post by **jlvitorasso** » Sat, 10. Mar 18, 15:30

Your sanctuary only produce e-cells when idle. There must be no production schedule.

hqz · Post by **hqz** » Sat, 10. Mar 18, 15:50

My UTs seem to be stuck on "standby" most of the time. Sometimes they are "scanning for trade routes..." but they quickly go back to "standby" and do nothing else.

The pilots are level 22 if that makes any difference. And I have about 60 sectors with advanced satellites. (and the ships have a jumpdrive obviously)

I've used SETA for a few (in-game) hours to see if they would eventually find a trade route but nothing happened.

The same ships set to ST do manage to trade something. So I'm wondering if I'm missing something here.

hqz · Post by **hqz** » Sat, 10. Mar 18, 15:53

As a related question, is it even a good strategy to use UTs with this mod?

I was aiming to make some credits with UTs in order to pay my maintenance costs. But maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way? (the strategy with this mod is so different from what I'm used to with "vanilla" X3LU)

mcal9909 · Post by **mcal9909** » Sat, 10. Mar 18, 18:17

hqz wrote:As a related question, is it even a good strategy to use UTs with this mod?

I was aiming to make some credits with UTs in order to pay my maintenance costs. But maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way? (the strategy with this mod is so different from what I'm used to with "vanilla" X3LU)

I think its all a question of playstyle, personaly i dont use UT's at all when playing Mayhem.

Money is not as useful and neither is REP when compared to vanilla LU.

What little cash i do need is easily covered by selling excess wares from my production chains. I started with a Snotra, still found it easy to cover maintenance fees.

jlvitorasso · Post by **jlvitorasso** » Sat, 10. Mar 18, 18:51

Edit: And about UTs on standby, i had two of them doing the same thing. Eventualy they get back to work. Altough i cant confirm, i suspect this is related to credits. Try to raise money (in my case, 20,000,000+) without spending for a while, and see if they leave 'standby'.

Falcrack · Post by **Falcrack** » Tue, 13. Mar 18, 04:14

I notice when looking at the system description, it gives infor on % sun, gate distance, race, and security level, all of which are pertinent pieces of information. It also lists the number of planets in the sector. Does this number have any bearing on gameplay, such as production capacity or value, or is simply a cosmetic indication of how many planets are in the backdrop?

Joubarbe · Post by **Joubarbe** » Tue, 13. Mar 18, 07:23

It has no effect over gameplay.

nekoexmachina · Post by **nekoexmachina** » Wed, 14. Mar 18, 09:22

Earlier I rememer that XMR was mentioned as a compatible mod for Mayhem. Is it still?

Falcrack · Post by **Falcrack** » Sat, 17. Mar 18, 06:21

Not sure if I am missing something super obvious, but with the latest Mayhem version installed (2.3.7) and no other mods, I am having some difficulty getting MLCC to work with my mini carriers. The carriers are homebased to the MLCC dock, and the fighters on each of the carriers is homebased to its carrier. All the carriers and associated fighers were automatically renamed "Security ...." for the TMs or "Wing Sec ...." for the fighters. When I activated the MLCC main menu, under configuration, I was able to add the M6 ships that were homebased to the dock and give them assignments. However, I did not have the option to assign my TMs.

Without the MLCC option, it is a big pain going through each TM and launching the fighters individually.

Here is the link to the save file

https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=94AA3FA1 ... ot&o=OneUp

I don't seem to remember having this problem with previous games using an earlier version of Mayhem, I was able to assign my TMs just fine. Has something changed regarding the MLCC which has hosed carriers?

Joubarbe · Post by **Joubarbe** » Sat, 17. Mar 18, 08:31

TMs are not supported by MLCC. I've had modified this in the past, but now Mayhem doesn't modify MLCC anymore.

Falcrack · Post by **Falcrack** » Sat, 17. Mar 18, 13:34

Just want to make sure I can still get it to work with M1 carriers. If not, I was going to shelve Mayhem and not put any more time into it. I remember last year I had an advanced Mayhem playthrough where I was able to use TMs just fine with MLCC, were they removed intentionally? Or was it an uninteded casualty of progress on other areas of the mod?

In any case, I've really liked the other improvements made to the mod. The dock agent changes, for example are fantastic, they offer such greater flexibility to manage my logistics both within and between sanctuaries, and without the need to change things around so much in case a freighter dies, like what would happen with couriers.

I guess that makes my goal of getting a true full sized carrier all the more urgent!

VincentTH · Post by **VincentTH** » Sat, 17. Mar 18, 17:37

Falcrack wrote:Just want to make sure I can still get it to work with M1 carriers. If not, I was going to shelve Mayhem and not put any more time into it. I remember last year I had an advanced Mayhem playthrough where I was able to use TMs just fine with MLCC, were they removed intentionally? Or was it an uninteded casualty of progress on other areas of the mod?

In any case, I've really liked the other improvements made to the mod. The dock agent changes, for example are fantastic, they offer such greater flexibility to manage my logistics both within and between sanctuaries, and without the need to change things around so much in case a freighter dies, like what would happen with couriers.

I guess that makes my goal of getting a true full sized carrier all the more urgent!

You have DarkEternal to blame

He complained about MLCC in 2.3.6 does not repair ships, (from a change I requested that MLCC ships should respond on call when their hull are at or above 90%), and caused the Panda to revert all the changes he made to MLCC in 2.3.7!

Anyway, there are 3 files that are changed between 2.3.6 and 2.3.7 w.r.t. MLCC: just copy them from 2.3.6 to restore the behavior.

They are:
Lib.Cmd.MLCC.CC.Retreat.xml
Lib.X.MLCC.GetProperty.xml
Menu.MLCC.Config.SM.xml

Disclaimer: I have not tested this change, so use them at your own risk!!!!!!

Falcrack · Post by **Falcrack** » Sat, 17. Mar 18, 18:27

VincentTH wrote:
Falcrack wrote:Just want to make sure I can still get it to work with M1 carriers. If not, I was going to shelve Mayhem and not put any more time into it. I remember last year I had an advanced Mayhem playthrough where I was able to use TMs just fine with MLCC, were they removed intentionally? Or was it an uninteded casualty of progress on other areas of the mod?

In any case, I've really liked the other improvements made to the mod. The dock agent changes, for example are fantastic, they offer such greater flexibility to manage my logistics both within and between sanctuaries, and without the need to change things around so much in case a freighter dies, like what would happen with couriers.

I guess that makes my goal of getting a true full sized carrier all the more urgent!

You have DarkEternal to blame He complained about MLCC in 2.3.6 does not repair ships, (from a change I requested that MLCC ships should respond on call when their hull are at or above 90%), and caused the Panda to revert all the changes he made to MLCC in 2.3.7!

Anyway, there are 3 files that are changed between 2.3.6 and 2.3.7 w.r.t. MLCC: just copy them from 2.3.6 to restore the behavior.

They are:
Lib.Cmd.MLCC.CC.Retreat.xml
Lib.X.MLCC.GetProperty.xml
Menu.MLCC.Config.SM.xml

Disclaimer: I have not tested this change, so use them at your own risk!!!!!!

Threw away all the changes eh? I would rather have lived with the previous version, than to have all the changes be removed.

But, this is the Panda's mod, he can do as he pleases!

I don't have a copy of 2.3.6, anyone know where I can find a copy to be able to get these files? I would prefer having the old Mayhem MLCC functionality back, even if it means there are some issues with autorepairing (which I don't really care about anyways, it is easy enough just to manually repair).

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