[AL PLUGIN] Pirate Guild 3: Dynamic AI and Guild System - v1.59 - [2010-07-22]

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Post by grayx » Sun, 27. Jul 14, 10:28

Sparky Sparkycorp wrote:Jack's probably right.

Despite no one bothering to reply to my question, I got it installed and it seems to be working in that a Guild has populated across space but that doesn't mean they don't conflict in some way.
Yup, but this is all guess work, until Litcube answers with some more details. I was looking in lu wiki, but it's still short with this kind of data.

edit: Sorry about cross-posting.
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Post by X2-Illuminatus » Mon, 28. Jul 14, 10:07

Please keep the discussions about LU to one of its dedicated threads. There's even one about script/mod compatibility.
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Post by Sparky Sparkycorp » Thu, 31. Jul 14, 17:28

yes

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Post by Sparky Sparkycorp » Sat, 2. Aug 14, 00:38

I've killed several Pirate Guild Outposts in a Litcube's Universe game yet a Pirate Guild Shipyard is still wiling to let me dock and buy an Outpost. Is that working as intended, a LU-related bug or a Pirate Guild bug?

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Post by grayx » Sat, 2. Aug 14, 13:18

Sparky Sparkycorp wrote:I've killed several Pirate Guild Outposts in a Litcube's Universe game yet a Pirate Guild Shipyard is still wiling to let me dock and buy an Outpost. Is that working as intended, a LU-related bug or a Pirate Guild bug?
I don't not sure, but I think in one of my previous gameplays (this mod added to XRM) iirc, if your relation with them is lower over some threshold you were denied dock anywhere and they are actively hostile toward you and your assets.

But, I think I was able to rise my standings by doing missions for them, if relation wasn't too low. Now, I haven't seen any mission from them and I was unable to rise my present standing of -1. Wasn't looking too much into it, new into the game, busy elsewhere.

Maybe I should try recommended Military Base Response revamp to see if it do something.


- Have seen Mobile Guild HQ in Elena's Fortune engaging small orbital defense platform.
- Can't befriend them as far as I can see.
- There is at least one Pirate shipyard in my game.
- I haven't noticed they are using jumpdrive to travel


I don't see any pirate economy. No pirate transports or something it their sectors... From time to time, I do see short skirmishes when pirate's group is passing through some heavily guarded sector, but I think that's an ordinary general AI response to hostile forces, not something added via this mod...

Unlikely, but maybe export/import has altered something in behavior of this mod. I did switch for 1.2.3 to 1.2.4.

In short, although it apparently doesn't hurt LU gameplay, it seems it doesn't work as it supposed to do.

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Post by jack775544 » Sat, 2. Aug 14, 14:31

Import/Export won't transfer anything associated with the pirate guild except for the ships, so any script commands that are running on the ships that aren't LU vanilla, won't be transfered.
Before you do an Export, you should turn off pirate guild so you don't have 'lost' ships around the galaxy that pirate guild has left behind.
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Post by grayx » Sat, 2. Aug 14, 16:51

jack775544 wrote:Import/Export won't transfer anything associated with the pirate guild except for the ships, so any script commands that are running on the ships that aren't LU vanilla, won't be transfered.
Before you do an Export, you should turn off pirate guild so you don't have 'lost' ships around the galaxy that pirate guild has left behind.
I did, but I don't know how PG3 script reacts to a such event.

After import into 1.2.4 and re-enabling Pirate Guild mod, I saw reappearance of two Pirate bases which were destroyed in my 1.2.3. game (Atreus' Cloud and one more in one paranid sector). In 1.2.4, I'm yet to see that some Pirate base is attacked by any ship. As if they are neutral to all.

Is there a need for this in LU anyway?
Is there some similar Pirate Guild script?

I noticed Pirate "campping" in some sectors, which is LU reported behavior. Maybe there is a conflict. Ii would be nice if we would have more dynamic Pirates. PG3 was great addon in XMR. I don't see any reason (unless it's not needed) not to be the same in LU.

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Post by jack775544 » Sun, 3. Aug 14, 13:04

I saw reappearance of two Pirate bases which were destroyed in my 1.2.3.
That will happen, pirate guild will know nothing that happened pre-export.
As if they are neutral to all.
Look at the settings in the AL menu, you might have it set for the guild to be neutral.
Is there a need for this in LU anyway?
Personally I am too busy with the Phanon and OCV to need to have pirates being active as well.
Is there some similar Pirate Guild script?
Not that I know of
Maybe there is a conflict.
Litcube's Universe changed so much that you can never know where there are incompatibilities. Nearly everything in vanilla has been changed so some script dependency could have been slightly broken because of the mod. I know Litcube has tried to make it so that those issues don't crop up, but he isn't perfect.
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Post by BlackArchon » Thu, 28. Aug 14, 22:19

Is there a X3: AP compatible version as well?

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Post by Sparky Sparkycorp » Thu, 28. Aug 14, 23:08

The main version is AP-compatible.

Just drop the files in the /addon directory and enjoy extra pirate goodness.

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Post by BlackArchon » Fri, 29. Aug 14, 13:59

Thanks, I will have a look at this. :)

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