[SCRIPT] Salvage Commands & NPCs v1.5 [2008-11-20]

KesinX · Post by **KesinX** » Fri, 4. Sep 09, 02:49

ThisIsHarsh wrote:
KesinX wrote:Love, Love, Love this script!!! My TMs and Hyperions are salvage gods with this and the Marine Repairs scripts working together (and NPC Bailing makes sure they have plenty of targets ).

Do a station defense mission, jump in a couple TMs or Hyperions to pick up all the salvage and claim all the ships, by the time they're done and I have them jump back to a shipyard, the claimed ships are repaired and ready to be sold.
Well don't forget Manual Trade Extension to sell your ill-gotten gains, and Auto prep ships to repair (with repair lasers), upgrade, configure and equip your newly salvaged ships .

Ahh of course! Haven't used the Manual Trade Extension yet but the others are great. Repair lasers on one of those Hyperions basically make it a fast and powerful fleet tender. It has something like 10k laser energy right? Repair lasers take a LONG time to drain that much energy. Auto-prep is great too for those ships I want to hang on to too. I've been saving up one copy of each version of every ship for when I get my PHQ up and running. Auto-prep was great for getting the 60 or so ships engines upgraded to get them to my little storage depot (AKA the Trading Station in Herron's Nebula

).

corhen · Post by **corhen** » Fri, 16. Oct 09, 07:37

i dont know if i have done somthing horribly wrong, but im not seeing any salvagers in there, i will zone in, and there will be on average of 6 ships, just sitting around....

including some stupidly large ships (ran across a M2 1 hour into my game)

i have Large ship bailing turned off, but thats not your area...

Pics

All these ships, except for my personal one, are from one sector,
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ThisIsHarsh · Post by **ThisIsHarsh** » Fri, 16. Oct 09, 13:32

corhen wrote:i dont know if i have done somthing horribly wrong, but im not seeing any salvagers in there, i will zone in, and there will be on average of 6 ships, just sitting around....

including some stupidly large ships (ran across a M2 1 hour into my game)

i have Large ship bailing turned off, but thats not your area...

Pics

All these ships, except for my personal one, are from one sector,
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Your settings look fine. You could try setting the max response rate to 0 mins and you should definately start seeing them. You can also check the nearest Pirate base's sector, see if it's under attack or something and salvagers can't get out. Not all salvagers claim ships, some just collect loot and enslave pirates. Ones that do salvage ships are likely to have illegal cargo (System Override Software), so maybe the police are harassing them.

NPC salvager ships can be called any of (depending on their role): Forager, Scavenger, Scrap Dealer, Breakdown Recovery, Salvager, Rescue. So look out for those names.

Let me know if you're still having problems. A couple of people have reported not seeing salvagers, but they do appear eventually.

As for NPC Bailing Addon making big ships bail despite it switched off, that is confusing... Did you have it switched on for a while, could the M1 be a remnant from that time? Or perhaps you are using a mod that puts some random derelicts in the galaxy for you?

corhen · Post by **corhen** » Fri, 23. Oct 09, 07:49

hmm, i dont know...

ran into a Xenon M1, and 3 TS's abandoned,

set the average time to 0 minutes, and i havnt seen one "Salvage" or anthing..

Ill Try Reinstalling the script

Hieronymos · Post by **Hieronymos** » Sat, 24. Oct 09, 03:22

The last 2 times I d/l'd the NPC Bailing Addon, it was in ".man" format--whatever that is. Not .spk, not .zip--.MAN
Have never seen .man format before, and have no idea what program is needed to open it..
Any ideas?

ThisIsHarsh · Post by **ThisIsHarsh** » Sat, 24. Oct 09, 05:15

Hieronymos wrote:The last 2 times I d/l'd the NPC Bailing Addon, it was in ".man" format--whatever that is. Not .spk, not .zip--.MAN
Have never seen .man format before, and have no idea what program is needed to open it..
Any ideas?

I really need to get this sorted out. I have no idea why this is happening, it's something to do with the web server. You can just rename from MAN to spk and it will work fine.

Stryke11 · Post by **Stryke11** » Wed, 28. Oct 09, 05:20

Hello, I am new to the script, very much enjoy it, and have a couple of questions.

First of all, Sector Salvager was working fine for me for awhile, but now when I select it, even if I know for a fact there are crates floating around in the sector I am in, the ship simply stops and does nothing. I don't use Universe Salvager and don't quite understand it but I tried it once and my ship began moving toward an equipment dock. Also, I always claim my ships manually using the Salvage Software Mk. 1 search for derelict ships and claim derelict ships command, but I read here that some people automatically find any capture all ships in a sector automatically using the combination of that mod and this one. How is this done?

I am using NPC Bail, Salvage Software Mk. 1, and the Economy Supply Trader mods.

Second, I read a lot of talk on this board about setting up another ship (not the one you are flying) to fly around and pick up all derelict ships across the universe. How is this done, what type of ship is best for it, and if I choose an M5 or something, how do I get it to target only ships and not crates/astronauts, etc.

Sorry if these are common/easy questions. I'm new to both the game and the scripts.

Thanks!

Oh, I also have NPC Salvagers turned off.

ThisIsHarsh · Post by **ThisIsHarsh** » Wed, 28. Oct 09, 17:17

Stryke11 wrote:First of all, Sector Salvager was working fine for me for awhile, but now when I select it, even if I know for a fact there are crates floating around in the sector I am in, the ship simply stops and does nothing.

Chances are the cargo bay is full. I will take a look at the code when I am able and see under what other conditions this may happen.

Stryke11 wrote:I don't use Universe Salvager and don't quite understand it but I tried it once and my ship began moving toward an equipment dock. Also, I always claim my ships manually using the Salvage Software Mk. 1 search for derelict ships and claim derelict ships command, but I read here that some people automatically find any capture all ships in a sector automatically using the combination of that mod and this one. How is this done?

The universe salvager will dock at a station for safety whilst it checks for sectors with salvagable items. Salvageable items need to be visible to you - i.e. covered by a satellite, ship or station's sensors.

In order for your salvager to claim ships, you need it to have some kind of salvage software onboard. The software required is an option in the configuration menu. The default option is the built-in System Override Software, which is expensive and illegal. There is also the option to simply require Special Command Software. Additional to these options, the plugin also supports TECSG's Salvage Claim Software Mk1 and Cycrow's Salvage Claim Software. If either of these plugins are installed, then they are added as an option (and I think set as the default option).

Stryke11 wrote:Second, I read a lot of talk on this board about setting up another ship (not the one you are flying) to fly around and pick up all derelict ships across the universe. How is this done, what type of ship is best for it, and if I choose an M5 or something, how do I get it to target only ships and not crates/astronauts, etc.

You can use the Universe salvager option for this. As mentioned in the OP, you can control what type of items are salvaged by having the right equipment onboard:

- Freight scanner: collect crates.
- Cargo Lifesupport System: collect astronauts.
- Salvage Claim Software (depending on chosen option): claim ships.

The universe salvager will automatically refuel and use jumpdrive based on your ship's autojump and refuel settings. As a result, it is best to use a ship that can hold enough energy cells (as well as fit a jumpdrive), so I would not recommend an M5. Personally, I use a Mako (Boron M4) - they're fast-ish and have a lot of cargo space for ecells.

Hope that helps.

Hieronymos · Post by **Hieronymos** » Thu, 29. Oct 09, 00:16

I really need to get this sorted out. I have no idea why this is happening, it's something to do with the web server. You can just rename from MAN to spk and it will work fine.

Tried this already (using Vista Home Premium), but no dice...it causes a system freeze. Any other ideas? Or maybe I'm not renaming from .man to .spk properly...

ThisIsHarsh · Post by **ThisIsHarsh** » Thu, 29. Oct 09, 00:19

Hieronymos wrote:
I really need to get this sorted out. I have no idea why this is happening, it's something to do with the web server. You can just rename from MAN to spk and it will work fine.
Tried this already (using Vista Home Premium), but no dice...it causes a system freeze. Any other ideas? Or maybe I'm not renaming from .man to .spk properly...

Well, all I can say is that this issue has been brought up several times now and always it was solved by renaming the file. Try redownloading in case the file is corrupt or something. System freeze definately shouldn't be happening!

Stryke11 · Post by **Stryke11** » Thu, 29. Oct 09, 01:59

Thank you for your help! I think what happened is that I changed to a ship that didn't have a freight scanner and that is why I'm not picking up crates. Doh!

Stryke11 · Post by **Stryke11** » Fri, 30. Oct 09, 01:26

Is there anything you can do with astronauts besides selling them into slavery? I picked some up with I was using sector salvager and I was afraid I might get scanned and would be thought of as a pirate so I landed at a trade depot hoping they would just get off but they didn't. So I just launched and let them out in space. It's a shame a good player can't rescue non-pirate astronauts.

vampirecosmonaut · Post by **vampirecosmonaut** » Fri, 30. Oct 09, 01:58

Stryke11 wrote:Is there anything you can do with astronauts besides selling them into slavery? I picked some up with I was using sector salvager and I was afraid I might get scanned and would be thought of as a pirate so I landed at a trade depot hoping they would just get off but they didn't. So I just launched and let them out in space. It's a shame a good player can't rescue non-pirate astronauts.

I have exactly the same issue.
I haven't found a single script for X3:TC that offers a "nice" way to deal with them.

Scruffy · Post by **Scruffy** » Fri, 30. Oct 09, 09:02

vampirecosmonaut wrote:
Stryke11 wrote:Is there anything you can do with astronauts besides selling them into slavery? I picked some up with I was using sector salvager and I was afraid I might get scanned and would be thought of as a pirate so I landed at a trade depot hoping they would just get off but they didn't. So I just launched and let them out in space. It's a shame a good player can't rescue non-pirate astronauts.
I have exactly the same issue.
I haven't found a single script for X3:TC that offers a "nice" way to deal with them.

One of the things i always wondered about was, is there anyway other then enslave to get the astronauts you pick up back off of your ship. One day i landed at a Pirate Anarchy Port and when you click on one instead of enslave you get a INFO screen showing what station their destination was and the reward offered for their return. I never have got around to testing if it works though.

Trokhon · Post by **Trokhon** » Sun, 1. Nov 09, 11:25

are both of the support scripts

Recommended: Cycrow's Salvage Claim Software
Recommended: TECSG's Salvage Claim Software Mk. 1

supported when parallel installed or must I choose one of them?

ThisIsHarsh · Post by **ThisIsHarsh** » Sun, 1. Nov 09, 13:58

Trokhon wrote:are both of the support scripts

Recommended: Cycrow's Salvage Claim Software
Recommended: TECSG's Salvage Claim Software Mk. 1

supported when parallel installed or must I choose one of them?

Yeah you can have them both installed. Only one can be selected as the 'requirement' for salvagers (both player and NPC) to have aboard.

Aegyen · Post by **Aegyen** » Mon, 14. Dec 09, 06:36

I have been using this script for some time now, as part of the setup for NPC Bails, Pirate Guild 3, etc... Love the script, 1st of all..

I have never been able to get the sector salvager to work though. I set several different kinds of ships up, and no matter, when the command is started, it just goes back to 'none'.

I had been using the Universal Salvager fine for quite some time, with M3 Novas, until, they were destroyed by one thing or another. Usually this meant an attempt at crossing Xenon space...

Most M4s fell to this problem, as I never seemed to find one with enough cargo space to prevent it. If they don't have enough cells to make the jump, they just head out, and 'boom', a pirate gets them, or they try a Xenon route.

I finally had an M6 to spare, from a previous salvage, and figured

now i will never have to worry about having enough cells... But, am seeing a new problem. They will run the 'universe salvage command' a couple times, and end up sitting somewhere, having reverted back to the 'none' command.

Feedback for a wonderful script, not going to stop using it, and looking forward to updates when RL permits. Or, when you can bear scripting again...

Oh, and another question I had, ( and something I have to play with to see if it creates the problem) is compatibility with a MARS script running on the salvager. Is this a no-no? I hadn't done it before with the M3s, but I did set up this M6 with MARS (D) on the turrets, might it be a conflict with 2 scripts running on one ship?

e1team · Post by **e1team** » Sun, 21. Feb 10, 13:37

Hey, so what about those 'Claim Ship' missions? Any suggestions on how to outrun the salvagers before they claim my mission ship?

Bluebird26 · Post by **Bluebird26** » Sat, 3. Apr 10, 13:55

Hi, I Need a German Version.

Can any Person Help me???

Sorry mein Englisch ist nicht so gut, ich bräuchte eine Deutsche version davon.

bzw. was heißt (NPC max response rate) . Was stelle ich damit ein???

dpadula · Post by **dpadula** » Thu, 22. Jul 10, 01:49

Is there a way to just get the Salvagers in my game? I do not really need everything else.

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[SCRIPT] Salvage Commands & NPCs v1.5 [2008-11-20]