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Post by Antilogic » Tue, 6. Feb 18, 12:56

burger1 wrote:I'd rather have something you can watch with other adults without being embarrassed.
Question how boring the adults you're watching with are. ^^

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Post by burger1 » Tue, 13. Feb 18, 03:42

I guess it's done for this season.

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Post by Usenko » Tue, 13. Feb 18, 09:00

That was abrupt . . .

I liked much of it, but I felt that the end of the major arc came far too quickly.
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Post by euclid » Tue, 13. Feb 18, 10:01

Usenko wrote:That was abrupt . . .

I liked much of it, but I felt that the end of the major arc came far too quickly.
Indeed, for a season final a tad disappointing.

And just a side note for those comments on Altered Carbon: I find it quite surprising that people are concerned about the displayed nudity rather than the utter violence. But I suspect that we are more used to the latter.

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Post by pjknibbs » Tue, 13. Feb 18, 10:40

euclid wrote:I find it quite surprising that people are concerned about the displayed nudity rather than the utter violence.
The way TV is censored these days causes that sort of disconnect, I think--it tends to be "Show all the blood and guts you like, but if a female nipple should happen to flash for half a second onscreen, you're in trouble". Makes no sense to me either, but them's the breaks.

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Post by Ketraar » Tue, 13. Feb 18, 13:41

An underwhelming ending to a underwhelming season. The only real upside was that they finally managed to insert some Star Trek into it even if just very late and too little. Even though it made no sense at all for star fleet to agree to such a horrendous plan, but at least it allowed for a very treky speech. Not the subtlest way to convey it, but from this level of writing I was not expecting much anyway.

Also the cheapest of cliffhangers ever made, phoned in fan service. At this point they could just cancel season 2 and I would not care at all.

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Post by berth » Wed, 14. Feb 18, 00:25

^^^

Pretty much sums up my feelings. All rather lacklustre. I'll watch it if they make more but I'm not really invested in any of the characters or the world they're in.

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Post by Redvers Ganderpoke » Wed, 14. Feb 18, 13:56

Blink and you miss the climax of the season or should I say anti-climax of the season. The cliff hanger at the end wasn't really a cliff hanger. So far the characters seem a bit bland (IMO Saru is the most interesting with Michael Burnham one of the least - a lot of the bridge staff could be played by muppets as much as we now about them, Tilly is almost Wesley in annoyance.)
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Two cliff hangers - although it not a very high cliff and nobody is in danger
1. So what does Cpt Pike want?
2. Who's going to be the new Captain?
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Post by Usenko » Wed, 14. Feb 18, 14:34

I didn't hate the episode as some have. I did think that it was not the strongest episode of the season.

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* The character arcs of Burnham and Tyler were brought to satisfying conclusions (or stopping points, at least, bearing in mind both are likely to feature next season).

* The character arcs of L'Rell and Saru were not so well managed. Saru was developing as a Captain, and some acknowledgement of this should have been made rather than him simply meekly yielding his position to Captain Whoever on Vulcan. Meanwhile, there was more that could have been done with L'Rell.

* I get that the scriptwriters didn't want to continue the Klingon War arc next season. Okay, I respect that. However, the war came to just too screeching a halt. I found it hard to accept that an interstellar war could be stopped so completely with a simple implied threat, especially if the problem is that the Klingons have so completely fragmented into their 24 houses.

*Here's an alternative: The house that is currently threatening Earth is somehow specifically invested in the bomb attack. So L'Rell has managed to pull them away. Seeing her strength at this, the other houses come to treat with her. She promises nothing more than an armistice to the Federation; the war has become a cold war, but at least we're not shooting at each other. This allows for a different focus next season (in that there's no official hostilities), but a level of political intrigue and possible border skirmishes. The Discovery could still find itself in danger when it accidentally warps into a previously unihabited system which has now caught a bad case of Klingons. Are the warships in system hostile, or are they part of a faction which has accepted the peace? We don't know until we have more information.
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Post by Ketraar » Wed, 14. Feb 18, 16:05

Thinking about it this season I realized Star Trek Discovery's plot, felt much like the X3 TC Treasure Hunt Plot, a reverse engineered goal with steps made to fit to reach the end result.

One was made by a person who didnt know jack squat about storytelling, the other by a modder. :roll:

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Post by Hank001 » Fri, 16. Feb 18, 03:00

Bravo moderator "Behold Zeus sends down a hero!" crack him down in scene 215.

No sour grapes but as a 10 year old when I sat on the carpet in front of the box when Kirk first split that mighty infinitive to boldly go, and Gray Mitchell exited stage downward under his rocky grave I was hooked. While my father on the couch scoffed.

I sat through the newest Star Trek watching post processing errors and calculating production values.

Gad I've turned into my father!

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Re: Star Trek Discovery

Post by berth » Sat, 17. Oct 20, 00:19

From the Picard thread:
Gavrushka wrote:
Fri, 16. Oct 20, 08:53
Vertigo 7 wrote:
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First episode of Discovery season 3 launched today. I liked the episode quite a bit. I don't wanna spoil so I won't go into any details but I feel like they really set the stage here for some "back to it's roots" Star Trek with the possibility of drawing direct links in the different eras of the various Star Trek series. I'm really looking forward to seeing where this goes and I'm really curious to see if the events played out in Picard lay the foundation for this future universe.
I loved the concept for Discovery, but was continually irked by dialogue between actors which was so damned obviously aimed at 'educating' the viewer, without any subtlety whatsoever.
Such as wrote:"We've a leak in the antimatter core," Burt said, clutching his friend's spanner.

"The antimatter core? That's the power source for the engines which propel us at speeds faster than light," Eric said, one eye bulging from its octagonal socket. "And will you get your grubby hands off my spanner. We're on duty!"
*EDIT* Just watched the opening episode too, and it was very enjoyable. - Michael Burnham is still a student of the Jim Carrey School of Overacting, but that's a minor blip.

Wasn't there a separate Discovery thread?
Found it! :wink:

Just watched the trailer -- looks quite bad, but I'll watch it.

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Re: Star Trek Discovery

Post by Ketraar » Sat, 17. Oct 20, 02:07

Just saw Episone 1 and holly crap its awful. Its fine for a mediocre generic scifi show, but did they forgot to add Star Trek in it? What was that?
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For a season opener it was boring as hell since nothing really happened, felt like a long trailer for a show about to start at some point. Several cheesy rip offs from other scifi stuff, like the alien bug eating a protagonist a la Man in Black and the likes. Was hoping for them to be now free from having to follow cannon but nope, they still clinging to it.
They should not have blown out the budget on those fancy CGI that serves no purpose other than to be shiny. The actor playing Micheal still has amnesia that she "is" Vulcan, some one tell her please!

In summary, writing is still as poor as before and lots of glossy CGI, oh well The Expanse season 5 is not far off.

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Re: Star Trek Discovery

Post by Vertigo 7 » Sat, 17. Oct 20, 05:03

Ketraar wrote:
Sat, 17. Oct 20, 02:07
Just saw Episone 1 and holly crap its awful. Its fine for a mediocre generic scifi show, but did they forgot to add Star Trek in it? What was that?
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For a season opener it was boring as hell since nothing really happened, felt like a long trailer for a show about to start at some point. Several cheesy rip offs from other scifi stuff, like the alien bug eating a protagonist a la Man in Black and the likes. Was hoping for them to be now free from having to follow cannon but nope, they still clinging to it.
They should not have blown out the budget on those fancy CGI that serves no purpose other than to be shiny. The actor playing Micheal still has amnesia that she "is" Vulcan, some one tell her please!

In summary, writing is still as poor as before and lots of glossy CGI, oh well The Expanse season 5 is not far off.

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oh come on. you have to be exaggerating. Maybe your expectations are astronomically high? But the first episode did exactly what it was supposed to do, set the state for the rest of the season.

I didn't find Burnham's role annoying. I don't really understand your comment there. She was raised on Vulcan, by Spock's parents no less. And she was still with the Vulcans up until she was appointed to the Shenzhou. Why would you be surprised if the character exhibits Vulcan traits from time to time? If a child was transplanted from the US to the UK, don't you imagine he/she would adopt an English accent and use weirdo words like "pants" instead of "underwear"? It's not like Burnham doesn't know she's human otherwise she would freak out every time she bleeds and sees that her blood is red instead of green.
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Re: Star Trek Discovery

Post by Olterin » Sat, 17. Oct 20, 06:40

Watched Episode 1 now.
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No coherent federation, no warp drives, now that's an interesting setting for a federation ship and crew to be dropped into, except they aren't. Thus far it's Burnham only, and given how the name of the episode contains "part 1" I'd wager a guess that the second part will be about Discovery crossing the wormhole and arriving months later, with Burnham having had time to learn about the setting from Sahil in the meantime
I didn't have high expectations, to be fair. The episode does the job. It doesn't have glaring major plotholes, it sets the stage. I still dislike the character of "Michael Burnham" but it's not like the show can just switch the lead on a whim. It doesn't feel like Trek at all, it has far more of a Star Wars feel to it (the old classics I mean, not the new Disney stuff) - but eh, who knows, maybe that'll change a bit. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, nor a good thing, it's just "a thing".
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