Trump

[matthewfarmery]

Well hello there, I am a little late to the party, but assuming the coup doesn't succeed, we'll still have one later.
I voted in one of the States that switched colors. So... HA!

How many times did you vote? Are you sure you aint dead? How many fingers am I holding up?

All good points!

As a fast leveling necromancer I just got access to 3rd level spells, and I have made sure all my bloody skeletons are registered to vote.

Call the fraud hotline, we need to get in touch with Trump asap!!!!

I think there is probably somewhere about having your own personal army for personal gain!!!!

[fiksal]

How many times did you vote? Are you sure you aint dead? How many fingers am I holding up?

All good points!

As a fast leveling necromancer I just got access to 3rd level spells, and I have made sure all my bloody skeletons are registered to vote.

Call the fraud hotline, we need to get in touch with Trump asap!!!!

I think there is probably somewhere about having your own personal army for personal gain!!!!

40HD worth of creatures under personal control is no joke

[Vertigo 7]

Rudi said "Today's decision turns out to help us in our strategy to get expeditiously to the US Supreme Court."

So is the losing cases part of the plan all along?? I doubt it personally. Just talking up a series of failures...

But if trump does have enough fans in the supreme Court, then could he just pull off the crime of the century? Stealing a whole country?

Rug

It absolutely is the plan. They don't need to win in court to steal the election. All they need is enough unresolved litigation in the courts covering enough states to deny Biden 270 electoral votes by forcing a delay or a halt on the electoral voting in those states.

If they're able to drag this out and appeal all the way to SCOTUS, it's absolutely possible that they file additional lawsuits either stopping the states from certifying votes, citing the contested results in other litigation as cause, or stopping the electors from voting by their deadlines for the same reason. If they're able to force Biden below 270, even without being able to award those to Trump, it'll force congress into their fallback plan to pick the president and that'll go to Trump.

[Panos]

There's a good archive here of all the lawsuits, so you can see in exhaustive detail exactly how much evidence the Trump campaign doesn't have of any fraud.
https://www.democracydocket.com/case_ty ... -election/

Trump CAMPAIGN hasn't filed any lawsuits. Those listed are from individuals.

The only lawsuit the Trump CAMPAIGN did was in MI but was retracted after the certification in Wayne county fell down the drain.

[felter]

There's a good archive here of all the lawsuits, so you can see in exhaustive detail exactly how much evidence the Trump campaign doesn't have of any fraud.
https://www.democracydocket.com/case_ty ... -election/

Trump CAMPAIGN hasn't filed any lawsuits. Those listed are from individuals.

The only lawsuit the Trump CAMPAIGN did was in MI but was retracted after the certification in Wayne county fell down the drain.

If trump has not filed any lawsuits, what has he been doing with all the cash he has been raising to pay for the lawsuits that he says he has filed. If he has not been filling any lawsuits, that means he has been running an even bigger scam than has already been reported and is stealing millions from his supporters.

[Panos]

There's a good archive here of all the lawsuits, so you can see in exhaustive detail exactly how much evidence the Trump campaign doesn't have of any fraud.
https://www.democracydocket.com/case_ty ... -election/

Trump CAMPAIGN hasn't filed any lawsuits. Those listed are from individuals.

The only lawsuit the Trump CAMPAIGN did was in MI but was retracted after the certification in Wayne county fell down the drain.

If trump has not filed any lawsuits, what has he been doing with all the cash he has been raising to pay for the lawsuits that he says he has filed. If he has not been filling any lawsuits, that means he has been running an even bigger scam than has already been reported and is stealing millions from his supporters.

The first lawsuit was for MI. The second is GA.
Gathering all evidence takes time, and still has 3 1/2 weeks to do so.

[Vertigo 7]

Well, Trump's cronies get on TV and spin a whole bunch of BS and wave papers around that Rudy Colludy scribbled on with a crayon saying they have proof of all these things. The weak minded get jedi mind tricked into believing it, but none of this supposed evidence ever manifests itself in court. Even the latest conservative judge that struck down the PA case all but called Trump's "lawyers" a bunch of bumbling idiots in his court opinion.

But hey, if listening to a cousin diddling has been "lawyer" that doesn't understand what the word "opacity" means makes you feel better about your life decisions, you do you.

I hope Rudy spends some of that money he's sucking up on a dentist.

[RegisterMe]

Madness had it right in 1980

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpN_TOP9hg8

EDIT: Still a good tune too

[BrasatoAlBarolo]

Well, Trump's cronies get on TV and spin a whole bunch of BS and wave papers around that Rudy Colludy scribbled on with a crayon saying they have proof of all these things. The weak minded get jedi mind tricked into believing it, but none of this supposed evidence ever manifests itself in court. Even the latest conservative judge that struck down the PA case all but called Trump's "lawyers" a bunch of bumbling idiots in his court opinion.

These are not the votes you're looking for.

[Vertigo 7]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_get06-tgo

This is so pathetic. These Trump "lawyers" are basically saying "these guys swore this is true, we can't verify it, so here! Over turn election, plx!"

[felter]

YAY for Michigan they did the right thing and have confirmed Joe Biden as their candidate for the next President of the US of A. Though one of the two Republicans did abstain, the other one agreed and voted with democrats. So that's basically it all over now for Trump though I'm sure he will try something else.

[felter]

It looks like the end is upon us but more importantly for America. Trump has accepted Biden as the next President of the United States of America and that the transition to the new government can now begin.

[Vertigo 7]

This is indeed good and welcome news, though Trump didn't concede. Looks like he's gonna continue to make a fool of himself, but *shrug* what else is new? Still, he's finally realized his game is at an end and has no more dirty tricks to pull to try to snake the win away from Biden.

Now the only thing left to worry about is if he's gonna start an unprovoked war with Iran and how many more he's sentenced to death via COVID.

[matthewfarmery]

About time, but I think while he didn't concede, he probably feeling the pressure of defeat. Some of his family members are starting to distance themselves from him. Another state has certified its results. So the walls are caving in.

Sure he can keep up with the legal challenges, but they aren't going anyway, and the supreme court won't help him either. He has his back to the wall, and no exit.

But at least now, things will slowly move to the right direction.

[Gavrushka]

About time, but I think while he didn't concede, he probably feeling the pressure of defeat. Some of his family members are starting to distance themselves from him. Another state has certified its results. So the walls are caving in.

Sure he can keep up with the legal challenges, but they aren't going anyway, and the supreme court won't help him either. He has his back to the wall, and no exit.

But at least now, things will slowly move to the right direction.

I spotted a source this morning stating he'd lost 30 legal challenges to date, so it does seem continued litigation is merely flogging a dead and well-rotted horse.

Had some fun looking at spoof videos of Trump, one on a Space hopper, and another with him dancing while a cat nods its head in time with the music. But the most ridiculous video was of Trump trying to explain uranium, split screened with Justin Trudeau explaining quantum states.

The more I see, the more I wonder how he ever thought to win a second term. Is he really the only one who doesn't see himself as more rational people do?

And will he and his offspring ever just disappear? Somehow, I doubt it.

[Vertigo 7]

So if anyone was thinking this was Trump having a moment of clarity, don't. Trump's announcement came after big business leaders met with republican leadership and threatened to withhold all future donations to the GOP, including the Georgia senate runoffs, while the GOP is continuing to indulge Trump's baseless claims of fraud. Their message came with a warning that Trump's antics are leading to market instability and they weren't having it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... rs-letter/

[matthewfarmery]

So if anyone was thinking this was Trump having a moment of clarity, don't. Trump's announcement came after big business leaders met with republican leadership and threatened to withhold all future donations to the GOP, including the Georgia senate runoffs, while the GOP is continuing to indulge Trump's baseless claims of fraud. Their message came with a warning that Trump's antics are leading to market instability and they weren't having it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... rs-letter/

Money talks, the threat of losing huge chunks of money, clearly had an impact. Still, in one way it makes sense, another way, the GOP started to realise that the battle is lost. Without those donors, there will be no way to continue the legal fights, the embezzlement of of funds. The GOP will end up losing more seats, so all over for them.

So yeah, Trump had his back to the wall, and was forced out. But he will never concede. But anyway, at least now things can move forward at least.

[Vertigo 7]

So if anyone was thinking this was Trump having a moment of clarity, don't. Trump's announcement came after big business leaders met with republican leadership and threatened to withhold all future donations to the GOP, including the Georgia senate runoffs, while the GOP is continuing to indulge Trump's baseless claims of fraud. Their message came with a warning that Trump's antics are leading to market instability and they weren't having it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... rs-letter/

Money talks, the threat of losing huge chunks of money, clearly had an impact. Still, in one way it makes sense, another way, the GOP started to realise that the battle is lost. Without those donors, there will be no way to continue the legal fights, the embezzlement of of funds. The GOP will end up losing more seats, so all over for them.

So yeah, Trump had his back to the wall, and was forced out. But he will never concede. But anyway, at least now things can move forward at least.

It's also sad that it takes businesses, not the people, not the election officials, not judges, so on and so forth to drive the message home. While in this one instance businesses used their collective powers to generate a positive outcome for the country, this isn't their normal mode of operation and also wasn't done purely for the sake of the country. "...of the people, by the people, and for the people..." It's mind blowing how little weight those words carry at both the state and federal levels.

[matthewfarmery]

Interesting video at the bottom.

https://eurweb.com/2020/11/24/all-the-w ... ice-watch/

While it might be possible for Trump to pardon himself, or get Pence to do it. It will not protect him from some people like NY Attorney General Letitia James

She has already filed 70 lawsuits that Trump will face once he leaves office.

Granted that the video was a bit of comedy, it does show that this attorney-general has a lot of bite. And lists most of the lawsuits that Trump will face. (and lets not forget, he will no longer have the protection of the oval office.

I say good luck to her.

Edit

Another good read

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/waterg ... ute-trump/

And why Biden should go after Trump, biden can't simply ignore Trump, also there is also 10 instances of obstruction of justice. (serious in itself) so by ignoring this, then there is no point in having a special council. And also means, that ANY president is above the law. It would be a huge mistake to let Trump off the hook. and like above, even if pardoned, it will not protect trump from at least 70 lawsuits that he will still face. So Trump will be in hot water whichever way you look at it.

[felter]

I don't think he will pardon himself, as to accept a pardon is to accept that the person being pardoned committed a crime in the first place, which he does not believe he has done. Even if he does, I would suspect that in the end the pardon would be deemed illegal and non valid, which could lead to the pardon being used against him as he accepted the pardon, meaning he must have committed the crime. I also doubt very much Pence would pardon him either, as if he did that it would be political suicide and the end of his political career and Pence fancies himself as a future president.