Chips wrote: ↑
Wed, 25. Mar 20, 12:01
matthewfarmery wrote: ↑
Wed, 25. Mar 20, 11:39
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 23121.html
Just boggles the mind really. While the number of confirmed cases are still raising rapidly, and the death toll is also raising. He wants to reopen most of the US by Easter. He living in cloud cuckoo land. the US hasn't reached the peak yet. And he thinks that US is winning the fight? If he does that, then expect the number of confirmed cases to raise even more. Seriously, what a buffoon.
The quicker he gets booted out of office the better. as Trump has lost his mind.
Because Trump always acts out what he says, rather than changing it days later and denying, right? Yes, boggles the mind. No, don't for one second think he's going to force it to happen. It'll change as time passes.
Assuming that even matter. Tbh I'm not sure what the Federal restrain order (the one that Trump says he wants to lift) are doing anything, seeing local states and municipals had enforced their own much stricter measures. For example, Denver's mayor stay-at-home order that close all non-essential business superseded the Colorado governor order of 50% staff reduction, which itself superseded the Federal social distancing order. And like you said, it'll change per situation demand, even Trump himself said as much. With the bill passed today the US had addressed the majority # of concern that people was worried about just less than a months ago when the hysteria seemed to assume nothing would be done and people gonna be doomed. And more will be done, the situation is fluid changing day by day, it's best to remain informed and also hopeful.
Also before this crisis isn't the common narrative is that Trump is an idiot that nobody listen to? So how is it everyone trying to make it sound like people treat his words as gospel now? It's always tout students and young adult are the most anti-Trump demographic and age group among the electorate, if there are people who will absolutely refuse listen to him that will be them ... remind me who are flooding the beach after spring break started again? Is that Trump's fault as well? And like I asked what about countries that don't have Trump? Not like their citizens are behaving any less callously. I'm not defending Trump. Trump sucks, I get it, but that doesn't mean everything is his fault. This is more of a human being human and to a deeper extend, a cultural difference between East and West.
pjknibbs wrote: ↑
Wed, 25. Mar 20, 17:06
felter wrote: ↑
Wed, 25. Mar 20, 14:54
Yeah great videos, but all of those people they are moaning about, what is the reasoning they are giving that it's okay for them to be out and about, it's because they say I'm not old and or I don't have an underlying health condition so I'll be okay. Just where do you think they got that idea from, where do you think the idea that you will be okay if you're not old and have health issues, it's because the press keeps on mentioning it every damn time they mention a new death, they always have underlying health issues and they always mention it.
Actually, the most recent news I saw said that a 21-year-old with *no* underlying health condition died of the virus a couple of days ago...
And that's not the only case either. I think people over 60 just constituted the majority (think 60-70% ?) but that still mean 30-40% of casualty outside of that group, and it;s not like those statistic is hidden in various reports. Meaning young people are still pretty much playing Russian roulette with their live, abeit with a better chance. But what get me is even if they're confident about their own health, they mostly don't consider the fact they can be come a host. I bet most of them know at least one or two people above 60!.
Blame the media if you want - and this is from someone who have the media on his shit-list - but this is not the media, this is just people being selfish and irresponsible. If living in Italy still somehow couldn't make someone to take this seriously, I doubt there is anything else will.
(You here not directed at anyone specifically, just a general way of speaking).
Politic has it place, and not everyone want to wrap their world around it. Please give non-political discussion due respect per the original spirit of the discussion.