[Bonus Plugin] Commercial Agent

Donsja · Post by **Donsja** » Wed, 30. Aug 06, 04:07

hey again

yeah i have installed the new patch, but there seem to do the same problem.
hmm, maybe its because as you sayd to @Kurny that they might be Apprentice. Ill have to check

Lucike · Post by **Lucike** » Wed, 30. Aug 06, 07:16

Donsja wrote:hmm, maybe its because as you sayd to @Kurny that they might be Apprentice. Ill have to check

Yes, your complex in Duke's Domain has also EC as intermediate products.

Greets
Lucike

Donsja · Post by **Donsja** » Wed, 30. Aug 06, 10:40

i checked, and problem is still there, even with the highest lvl.
still on standby...

weird bug

jlehtone · Post by **jlehtone** » Wed, 30. Aug 06, 11:32

Stupid question. EQdocks and Trade Stations. Do they have resources, products, or both?

IIRC, the X2 BPH/ATC could only buy to them, and never sell. That was by design.

So if I place my Trade Dock next to NPC one, both stock ware X, and both have "average" price, what will CA do?

Lucike · Post by **Lucike** » Wed, 30. Aug 06, 12:32

@Donsja

Which scripts did you still install? Your savegame freezes here.

@jlehtone

The CA buys goods, if the EQ Dock is closed for the races and sells goods, if the dock is opened.

jlehtone · Post by **jlehtone** » Wed, 30. Aug 06, 13:32

Lucike wrote:The CA buys goods, if the EQ Dock is closed for the races and sells goods, if the dock is opened.

Thanks, did I miss it in the Readme? (Had only a brief glance.)

So if I close it, I can gather, but have to sell by traditional ways.

But if the dock can trade with others, the CA sells only and I have to buy with other methods?

Are the Trading Station and EQ Dock identical in behaviour?

Some say that NPC Free Traders do sell to player Trade Docks, but never buy, and that they would neither sell or buy from player EQ Docks?

Donsja · Post by **Donsja** » Wed, 30. Aug 06, 14:22

Lucike wrote:@Donsja

Which scripts did you still install? Your savegame freezes here.

works fine here

but i have alot of scripts
Bonus Pack 3.1.01 * Enabled
Automated Defense System * Enabled
Bulk Beam Transporter Upgrade * Enabled
Crystal Free SPP * Enabled
Fix Attack Command * Enabled
Pirate Guild v0.41 * Disabled
Race Response Fleets * Enabled
SatelliteDeploy * Enabled
Xenon Migration * Disabled
Xenon Shipyards * Disabled
Yaki Armada * Disabled

All are latest version

Lucike · Post by **Lucike** » Wed, 30. Aug 06, 15:03

Donsja wrote:but i have alot of scripts
Bonus Pack 3.1.01 * Enabled
Automated Defense System * Enabled
Bulk Beam Transporter Upgrade * Enabled
Crystal Free SPP * Enabled
Fix Attack Command * Enabled
Pirate Guild v0.41 * Disabled
Race Response Fleets * Enabled
SatelliteDeploy * Enabled
Xenon Migration * Disabled
Xenon Shipyards * Disabled
Yaki Armada * Disabled

Aha ... therefore freezes it here.

Please send me also the script and t folder.

Greets
Lucike

Kurny · Post by **Kurny** » Wed, 30. Aug 06, 19:14

Lucike wrote:@Kurny

Are the products intermediate products? Apprentice can't trade with intermediate products.

No, they are main products, but do I have to setup something specific? I just assigned the home base and pressed 'Start Commercial ...'. They go to the home base and just go into standby.

I have 12 main products and I setup 5 Commercial agents (a few times already)

Lucike · Post by **Lucike** » Wed, 30. Aug 06, 19:46

@Kurny

Apprentice
The apprentice buys resources for his homebase. The apprentice is carrying out his probationary period in your enterprise and doesn't get a salary during this time.
Auxiliary courier
The auxiliary courier buys resources and sells products for his homebase. Furthermore, he can buy or sell goods to equipment docks and trade stations. He can also have these stations as homebase. The auxiliary courier is paid a wage of 20 credits per mizura flown, paid after each trip.

Donsja · Post by **Donsja** » Wed, 30. Aug 06, 20:17

Lucike wrote:
Donsja wrote:but i have alot of scripts
Bonus Pack 3.1.01 * Enabled
Automated Defense System * Enabled
Bulk Beam Transporter Upgrade * Enabled
Crystal Free SPP * Enabled
Fix Attack Command * Enabled
Pirate Guild v0.41 * Disabled
Race Response Fleets * Enabled
SatelliteDeploy * Enabled
Xenon Migration * Disabled
Xenon Shipyards * Disabled
Yaki Armada * Disabled
Aha ... therefore freezes it here.

Please send me also the script and t folder.

Greets
Lucike

there you go

Kurny · Post by **Kurny** » Wed, 30. Aug 06, 20:36

Lucike wrote:@Kurny

Apprentice
The apprentice buys resources for his homebase. The apprentice is carrying out his probationary period in your enterprise and doesn't get a salary during this time.
Auxiliary courier
The auxiliary courier buys resources and sells products for his homebase. Furthermore, he can buy or sell goods to equipment docks and trade stations. He can also have these stations as homebase. The auxiliary courier is paid a wage of 20 credits per mizura flown, paid after each trip.

My mistake, so, I'll probably assign them to some other station first and let there rank grow.

Lucike · Post by **Lucike** » Wed, 30. Aug 06, 23:10

Donsja wrote:i checked, and problem is still there, even with the highest lvl.
still on standby...

I checked your savegame and can't find any problem. The pilots sells all goods, but they must be "freighter pilot 2nd class".

http://www.lucike.info/x3_reunion/scree ... n00017.jpg
http://www.lucike.info/x3_reunion/scree ... n00019.jpg
http://www.lucike.info/x3_reunion/scree ... n00020.jpg

Freighter pilot 2nd class
The freighter pilot 2nd class can handle intermediate products of a complex in addition to its products and resources. He can use a jumpdrive if one is installed. The freighter pilot 2nd class is paid a wage of 30 credits per mizura flown, paid after each trip.

Donsja · Post by **Donsja** » Thu, 31. Aug 06, 05:52

As you can se on this images, i still got the problem.
Most of them are still on standby
And they are at max lvl

http://www.bkorion.dk/x/x3screen00006.jpg
http://www.bkorion.dk/x/x3screen00007.jpg
http://www.bkorion.dk/x/x3screen00008.jpg

Lucike · Post by **Lucike** » Thu, 31. Aug 06, 08:05

@Donsja

And freighter 2, 3, 7 and 8? What they are doing?

Donsja · Post by **Donsja** » Thu, 31. Aug 06, 19:20

The others are transporting

yeah got already that one installed.

im gonna send you a new save game.
Take a look at te 1MJ Shield Complex at argon prime
They all are at there maximum lvl, but they dont get any meatsteak cahoonas

johgalt · Post by **johgalt** » Sat, 2. Sep 06, 02:39

I have a question. I have several self-sufficient armories composed of over a hundred stations in some cases. this means that they have no primary resources. I realized early on that i would be unable to use the commercial agent with these bases unless i could first get their rank above apprentice while working for a different station. therefore i equipped 10 or so TS ships with prety much every extension in existance and assigned them as commercial reps to bases that did have primary resources. now all of them are freighter pilots, and I tried to assign them to my major armories. i did this by canceling the commercial agent command and changing the ships home base. for some reason when i start up the commercial agent again the ship will, after a period of five minutes or so, revert to its previous home base, and continue with the commercial agent. I also tried the "remove home base" tool from extra ship commands. it did not work either.

any help would be appreciated, thanks.

edit: another question:
is there any particular advantage to using the commercial agent over the station manager? for that matter, is there an yparticular advantage to using the station manager over the commercial agent?

jlehtone · Post by **jlehtone** » Sat, 2. Sep 06, 07:37

Wasn't there a "Remove ship" command in SM? SM has to release the ship. Then new SM should take control of the ship. Just a guess.

johgalt wrote:is there any particular advantage to using the commercial agent over the station manager? for that matter, is there an yparticular advantage to using the station manager over the commercial agent?

They are different. We just have to figure out the differences, and when those differences are significant on our special cases. Every case is special. So it is up to the needs of your armories, what suits them.

johgalt · Post by **johgalt** » Sat, 2. Sep 06, 17:52

yes, there is a 'Station Managet: Remove Ship" command, and it wirks. I have been able to change ships home bases who are running under station manager. However, this is not my problem. My problem is with the Commercial agents. I have not been able to get commercial agents to switch which bases they trade for. Re-assigning the home base works briefly, but it resets itself after a short period of time. I think as soon as it lands at the new home base.

Anoik · Post by **Anoik** » Sun, 3. Sep 06, 10:08

Can i use this script and the Comercial Agent at the same time? will they work together for the ships of one station?

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[Bonus Plugin] Commercial Agent