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Post by BlackRain » Fri, 25. Nov 05, 00:26

Most of us already know this, especially the people using the editor bubba, so seriously stop your whining, I have heard enough of it already over these forums, don't need to start more, it will be fixed when it is fixed.

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Post by Lothmorg » Fri, 25. Nov 05, 03:32

I have no doubt that these models will be included in future patches. I assume that Egosoft was under the gun to get the game out the door, and opted for what they did - intending to fix it when they had time.
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Post by IneffableModder » Fri, 25. Nov 05, 06:53

I know this is not X2 but the definition of the relValue in X2 is far different from what you are describing here. May I ask how you came out to your conclusion?


The relvalue in X2 is the object price when multiplied by its "value factor". If the rel value is now the production factor then how could it calculate the price of the object? BTW, this value is common amongst all objects in the game and that is how I have it in my framework.
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Re: relvalue

Post by doubleshadow » Fri, 25. Nov 05, 09:18

IneffableModder wrote:I know this is not X2 but the definition of the relValue in X2 is far different from what you are describing here. May I ask how you came out to your conclusion?


The relvalue in X2 is the object price when multiplied by its "value factor". If the rel value is now the production factor then how could it calculate the price of the object? BTW, this value is common amongst all objects in the game and that is how I have it in my framework.
I think that the Production Relative Value worked the same in X2. I'm slowly remembering that Burianek already described in X2 S&M that the price, time to produce and consume rate are bound together.

It just seems that no one was listening to him :D
May I ask how you came out to your conclusion?
It must have something to do with the fact that he's (Burianek) the author of X3 economy (as stated in X3 credits). He is also author of the X2 economy rebalance mod (as stated in his signature).

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Post by IneffableModder » Fri, 25. Nov 05, 22:47

Ah, I see. I was going off the X2 Modder Kit 1.4 documents. I read my information from X2 modding.pdf, Page 13 under RelValue for the TShips definition ... it states :

RelValue; RelValue * valuefactor for a ship = ship price.

So is this misleading or am I just not understanding what it means in the X2 documentation?

Oh boy, I have alot of catching up to do. I've only been at this for maybe a week or two now in my spare time.

EDIT : I read back over the comment on this subject and I can see why it wasn't clear now.
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Post by Xenon_Slayer » Sat, 26. Nov 05, 14:36

Not sure if this has been mentioned. From some trial and error I've noticed that the X3 galaxy limits are
X = 0-23
Y = 0-19

Thats 480 sectors! So your tool will need some changes.
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Post by Creston » Sun, 27. Nov 05, 09:27

You're the man Doubleshadow, thanks again for your excellent work. I was hoping and waiting for you to release an X3 version of your editor. Thanks!!! :)

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Post by g04tn4d0 » Mon, 28. Nov 05, 16:19

Yeah, your editor freakin' q0wnz! Great job! 8)

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Post by deamoclese99 » Mon, 28. Nov 05, 18:48

Question... can I use the editor somehow to remove the "nose" sticking out ahead of my nova when I fly it? What field do I have to edit if this is possible?

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Post by OCASPAWN » Mon, 28. Nov 05, 23:03

iv noticed somthing when im creating a new sector it dont show up in the ingame galaxy map, i mean its there i can access it but the image is not there
as shown in screenshot .... http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/4741 ... ere8sx.gif

i have edited file 05.Cat/ 40001.pck adding to 7.Boardcomp. Sectornames adding line 1021106

also edited 19.Sectordescription adding line 1031106

also tryed adding it to 300007.Boardcomp. Sectornames

also tryed editing same files but in 04.cat

im must be missing somthing simple! any one help :cry:

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Post by OCASPAWN » Mon, 28. Nov 05, 23:13

deamoclese99 wrote:Question... can I use the editor somehow to remove the "nose" sticking out ahead of my nova when I fly it? What field do I have to edit if this is possible?
there is a x2 cockpit replacer so if u want it compleatly gone im sure it would be posable. posably by editing the 03.cat/objects/ships/

if im wrong im sure some one will put me right :)

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Post by DeadlyDa » Tue, 29. Nov 05, 00:53

In x2, the 00749.pbd file contained the template for the galaxy map. I did a custom one for my SSG mod(s), which add additional/altered sectors.

There is a thread somewhere in the X2 Scripts and Modding forum that explains (sort of) how to do a custom graphic to match your custom galaxy.

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Post by Galaxy613 » Tue, 29. Nov 05, 01:00

OCASPAWN wrote:iv noticed somthing when im creating a new sector it dont show up in the ingame galaxy map, i mean its there i can access it but the image is not there
as shown in screenshot .... http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/4741 ... ere8sx.gif

i have edited file 05.Cat/ 40001.pck adding to 7.Boardcomp. Sectornames adding line 1021106

also edited 19.Sectordescription adding line 1031106

also tryed adding it to 300007.Boardcomp. Sectornames

also tryed editing same files but in 04.cat

im must be missing somthing simple! any one help :cry:
It's something with the universe cutscene. It's number 00749, it should be in "\objects\cut", good luck figuring it out, find the Sydicate Mod for reference because 4 new sectors were sucessfully added and could be of some help.
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Post by doubleshadow » Tue, 29. Nov 05, 09:23

OML wrote:Not sure if this has been mentioned. From some trial and error I've noticed that the X3 galaxy limits are
X = 0-23
Y = 0-19

Thats 480 sectors! So your tool will need some changes.
It wasn't but I have this info from CheckerTwo. But thank you :)
eamoclese99 wrote:Question... can I use the editor somehow to remove the "nose" sticking out ahead of my nova when I fly it? What field do I have to edit if this is possible?
No. To do that, you would have to edit the 3D body of the ship. So the easist solution is to use the Cockpit Mod from Galaxy613 or to wait if someone will make another mod which will shift the cocpit parts.
OCASPAWN wrote:iv noticed somthing when im creating a new sector it dont show up in the ingame galaxy map, i mean its there i can access it but the image is not there
This is normal. X2/3 has the galaxy map stored as a 3D object (a scene). You must change that file in order to see your new sectors. Also a 3D modding (read "not easy") work...

Next version of X3E should be out soon ;)

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Post by OCASPAWN » Tue, 29. Nov 05, 10:08

doubleshadow wrote:Next version of X3E should be out soon ;)
gr8 looking forward to it m8 :D

also thax to all who answered my question, i will now start racking my little brain on how to edit that side of things, (one day hope to fill 90% of the posable sector space) dreams lol..

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Post by thegilesy » Fri, 2. Dec 05, 09:00

I have a problem saving files, it says error saving file GZIP no GZIP header found

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Post by pywakett » Fri, 2. Dec 05, 18:24

Yes I am having the same problem with true light I started a whole new game. and it reverted the stats to normal. I closed the editor and reopened it to check the stats before I started the game and it was exactly how I saved it. I did notice there is another Tship file in the cat 5 directory. I was only using the cat 4. either you have to change both or certain ships are unchangable.

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Post by Artius » Fri, 2. Dec 05, 18:28

can I edit a M2 destroyer to allow the docking of 1 ship?

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Post by Dfeeds » Sun, 4. Dec 05, 04:37

I get an error everytime I start it up

X3editor has caused an error in SHELL32.DLL
X3editor will now close

any ideas (i have C runtime installed already)

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Post by doubleshadow » Mon, 5. Dec 05, 08:17

Sorry for not beeing here for a while :oops:
thegilesy wrote:I have a problem saving files, it says error saving file GZIP no GZIP header found
You are trying to overwrite a file wchich is not compressed with a compressed file - for example trying to save as TShips.txt with File type set to "X3 T Files - packed (*.pck)". Because the file TShips.txt already exist but it is not compressed an error occurs. That's bug in the x2fd library. Just make sure you are saving non compressed files with extension .txt and compressesd files with .pck and you should be fine. If the extension of your file already is .pck then you should save in under different name and then rename/delete in X2 ModManager or in X3MM which will be relesead later today.
pywakett wrote:Yes I am having the same problem with true light I started a whole new game. and it reverted the stats to normal. I closed the editor and reopened it to check the stats before I started the game and it was exactly how I saved it. I did notice there is another Tship file in the cat 5 directory. I was only using the cat 4. either you have to change both or certain ships are unchangable.
Yes - you have to change the file in the highest catalog. But of course you should not alter the original files at all in the fist place! Make your own mod and make all changes there. Much safer and standard as of X2 1.2 (or was it 1.3 :? )
Artius wrote:can I edit a M2 destroyer to allow the docking of 1 ship?
You can only change the number of docking slots. You however cannot make some ship to be able to carry another ships just by changing the Docking slots number. There must be external/internal docking part defined inthe ship scene file. Furthermore certain ships cannot dock with another ships - that's "hardcoded" in the .obj files (it can be changed, but not very easily)
Dfeeds wrote:I get an error everytime I start it up

X3editor has caused an error in SHELL32.DLL
X3editor will now close

any ideas (i have C runtime installed already)
What is yout operation system (version/service pack)? No one ever reported something like that...

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