Inaktive Team thats okay but....

[Hammerhirsch]

hi,

my team is pretty inactive and I am not able to get the rewards on my own. If I make my own team, do I need less points to increase the percentages? By that I mean do I need to do less missions because there are not 14 inactive members in the team?

Best Regards

Hammerhirsch

[Hammerhirsch]

And when I create my own Team will I take my Teampoints with me or are they gone ? Has every team regardless their teamsize the same speed of leveling up their missions ? So do i need to find a elite 15 players team to get the rewards without playing 140h a week ?

Regards

Hammerhirsch

[TwistedSeven]

Anything you have earned on a team, stays with that team when you leave

[Hammerhirsch]

so i am stuck in an inaktive team, great ........... and now the missions needs even longer ....... that frustrates me. Why i should play online when i am not able to get to the last missions without playing 100h a week ........ if i knew it was worth having a small team to get ahead. i would take the loss. Unfortunately, I don't have any friends who play this game. That is why I joined a random team

I'm kind of playing online right now and yet kind of singleplayer because no one is active. How can one person manage this? The day has only 24h.

I hope the devs give me an answer when they have time.

[Mr. Personal]

so i am stuck in an inaktive team, great ........... and now the missions needs even longer ....... that frustrates me. Why i should play online when i am not able to get to the last missions without playing 100h a week ........ if i knew it was worth having a small team to get ahead. i would take the loss. Unfortunately, I don't have any friends who play this game. That is why I joined a random team

I'm kind of playing online right now and yet kind of singleplayer because no one is active. How can one person manage this? The day has only 24h.

I hope the devs give me an answer when they have time.

Sometimes an annoying spammer advertises team recruiting in the discord channel. Try to find it there.
https://discord.gg/EGKAnXEM

[Hammerhirsch]

Sorry but this muliverse makes me in a bad mood. I am too dependent on an active group. Why do I play ?
So I can train crew, get color mods, ships, etc. get a nice story, I actually did not want to spend hours or days to find a group, which must then also be mega active. This all ends up in one team change after another because players are not active enough. The initial joy is gone. It's no fun to see what you could have as a reward in missions and no matter how much time I personally put in I will not have it or in a small number.

One has to spend 100h for 2 color modifications and another a fraction of that and has 20 color modifications.
Limiting everything to one team like that really ruins it for me. Normally, dedication is rewarded in a game.

[Hammerhirsch]

Would the company EGOSOFT please tell me if it will stay like this with the teams ? That the competition consists of team search and not the game itself. Then I can stop playing. I am very disappointed with what you are delivering. X4 is my favorite game but with these team mechanics, it is depressing for me and my desire to play x4 at all is sinking and sinking.

[SphinxofBlackQuartz]

Would the company EGOSOFT please tell me if it will stay like this with the teams ? That the competition consists of team search and not the game itself. Then I can stop playing. I am very disappointed with what you are delivering. X4 is my favorite game but with these team mechanics, it is depressing for me and my desire to play x4 at all is sinking and sinking.

There may not be an answer anybody at Egosoft can give you. This is a public beta, so evaluating how players engage with it, and how best to shape the content and mechanics to that engagement, is likely a work in progress.

Bernd has often said X4 is about the player feeling important and consequential, so I'm optimistic Egosoft will come up with a solution that spreads the rewards widely.

[Hammerhirsch]

I have little hope that something will change, maybe the most people have aktive teams members. If I was at least given the opportunity to search for teams. I just feel unfairly treated, not everyone had the same conditions to get the mission rewards. I am one of thousands, it doesn't matter. as always.

[Nrith]

Seriously, I don't really get your kind of emotional attachment, Hammerhirsch. Unfairly treated? Which way? Where exactly do you have any kind of disadvantage compared to players with active teams? Speaking as one of the last active members of an otherwise more-or-less abandoned team as well.

Like SphinxofBlackQuartz pointed out again, this is a beta. We don't even know what kind of rewards wait at the end. Maybe we shouldn't even assume there'd be any, 'cause .. you know.. it's a beta! Neither were we forced nor charged to participate but instead got quite some additional stuff for free.

Back to the topic of "disadvantage", so far there were only some weird looking paint mods for each Operations completion. I'm still reluctant to even call them reward. As long as we don't know if or which rewards wait at the end of the Season, how they'll be distributed, how team points or team ranking or the factions conflict conclusion factor into the whole thing, we're not even close to be able to judge our current situation.

Currently, all we know is we're probably able to gain (potentially) less team points than more active teams. But that's all and that itself ain't a disadvantage - yet. Nor is it a reason to claim unfair treatment.

Let's just do our best within our current possibilities, enjoy the other available options (I really love my Yasur fleet! Gonna capture some more ...) and wait for the final results before getting all grumpy. You can always get angry again if there'd really be any unfair treatment for players who just happened to be unlucky to end up in abandoned teams.

[Bahamut100]

One issue is, that no one knows what rewards are given out:
For example Egosoft hints at the fact that you get rewards based on your participation see FAQ:

How does my Team win? How is the score tracked?
By completing Ventures in the Operational Goal chapter, you will earn Team Shares. These will count towards the Season score, not only for your Team, but also for the Coalition you are associated with. At the end of the Season, the accumulated rewards are handed out to the Team - it's loot time! The more successful you, your Team, and your Coalition were during the Season, the more interesting the loot.

But we have no List of 1st place : X, 2nd-10th: Y 11-100: Z etc...
We do know that are seems to be Yasur MK3 around "very rarely", so one might suggest, that the 1st Chapter-Rewards were not equally, and some might have gotten a MK3 Yasur.

So yes there might be very well a disadvantage, of which currently just very litte is known. Even during a beta, management of information on possible rewards, how the system is structured would be extremly helpfull to evaluate how things are going.
And yes it might be that all rewards are scrapped at the end due to it beeing a beta, it still should be known, what players can actually archieve.

[SphinxofBlackQuartz]

We do know that are seems to be Yasur MK3 around "very rarely", so one might suggest, that the 1st Chapter-Rewards were not equally, and some might have gotten a MK3 Yasur.

If I understand correctly, the Yasur Mk3 was not a chapter 1 reward at all, for anybody. Certain internal testers have been given access, but it wasn't distributed as a reward. (I could well be wrong! That happens a lot.)

[CBJ]

I could well be wrong! That happens a lot.

In this case you are correct.

[SphinxofBlackQuartz]

In this case you are correct.

Thank you! I'll mark my calendar.