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Take it back for a refund!? Yer avin' a laugh, ain't ya?!

Post by Fey_Null » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 07:34

I've been reading too many threads about people taking X3 back to the shop to get reimbursed "beacuase it's all Jittery!"... NO WAY!! WHY!?

Come on people! This is it!! X3! This game has already swallowed my mundane life and 'precious' time, there ain't NO way I'M taking it back! Have some faith in the programmers, just hang in there and be patient.. It'll pay off I just know it! Lady Fate will make it all better, wait and see..

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Post by Da_Junka » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 09:06

The only way they are going to get my copy of X3 back is from my cold dead hands.
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Post by giskard » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 09:08

My shoulder and back has been hurting for days because i sat in my computer chair too long playing this game.

Im going to be forced to take a break soon for health reasons.

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Post by suicidalfoetus » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 10:14

I was temted to take the game back if I couldn't get it to run reasonably well from the outset, but now that I find I can run it I will be persevering wth the game.

However I would say that I am finding a lot of gameplay related bugs, that I would have thought should have been addressed before the game was released.

Knowing the stirling support Egosoft showed with the previous X games I will be sticking by them.

However while I wonder about the appearance of the 1.3 patch in mid November I have to wonder if we will have to wait for a 1.4 patch to address many of the issues raised since the release of the game.
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Post by esd » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 12:56

It's not exactly technical support, is it?
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Post by Opiate » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 12:59

When all of your savegames get corrupted, taking the game back looks distinctly more interesting than you suggest.....

Waiting on patch 1.3 to see if they can restore them first, but otherwise its going back.

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Post by Dunners » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 13:08

I went into McDonalds and asked for a Meatsteak Cahoona with some Spacefuel...

The assistant told me they only had Chelt meat......


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Post by khawk » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 13:29

Well, I have still resisted the temptation to buy this game. Why:

No Cockpits
No mobile mining
SPP's looks all the same
Some gameplay issues that I have faith in will be corrected in the coming patches.

Don't take me wrong, I intend to buy the game. Just not now, I guess I will buy it when I see mods for download which bring back the cockpits and do really make the game better. I guess Mobile mining will be patched by Egosoft in a short time.
And then, I will be saving myself some money because when I buy this game, the price has most likely dropped.

Until then, I am happy with X2. Especially now that I upgraded my memory from 256 mb till 1 GB.

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Post by Duriel_LOP » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 13:56

In real life space factories will be even more boring, they will be standardised, have no paint on them at all just so the managers save more pennies. Having said that it makes perfect sense that solar power plants look the same, I mean how many other ways that would work as efficiently be possible? not many, not only that but imagine the poor bugger having to redesign the same station 5 times >.< people still hung up about those cockpits huh? Oh well, like Brian of Nazareth said, you can't please everyone. Then the begger replies , thats just what Jesus said sir! :P
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Post by kmurphy2 » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 14:02

Oh come on, how can anyone not love this game? Even with some problems, it is the best space sim/strategy game ever. Sometimes while taking by puny Mako up against Split M3's I get caught up in just how good they look. The contrails spewing fire and black smoke (reminiscent of Firefly), the abused look of the paint, and the INCREDIBLE look of the ships. I don't know if it was a Falcon or what, but it had something like Chinese characters on the side, but it was the coolest thing ever.

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Post by Tsar_of_Cows » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 14:18

khawk wrote: No Cockpits
You don't need cockpits.

I seriously don't miss them for half a second.

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Post by Hachiman » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 14:32

Dunners wrote:I went into McDonalds and asked for a Meatsteak Cahoona with some Spacefuel...

The assistant told me they only had Chelt meat......


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Post by StoneLegionYT » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 14:33

Da_Junka wrote:The only way they are going to get my copy of X3 back is from my cold dead hands.
Unless it never hits Canada and I come and kill you for it :roll: :twisted: 8)

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Post by Da_Imp » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 14:34

Tsar_of_Cows wrote:
khawk wrote: No Cockpits
You don't need cockpits.

I seriously don't miss them for half a second.
Its far better sitting on the hull, breathing fresh Nebulae :P

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Post by TerrorTrooper » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 14:42

Tsar_of_Cows wrote:
khawk wrote: No Cockpits
You don't need cockpits.

I seriously don't miss them for half a second.
agreed!! i was a sceptic at first...

but then i played X3..

and all of a sudden i dont see what all the fuss is about..

the majority of "lack of cockpit" complaints now are by people who havent played it yet..

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Post by Cadarn » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 14:44

I admit that I was initially gutted at how badly X3 chugged around on my fairly high spec (P4 3.2ghz, 1GB ram, Geforce 6600GT) machine.

After a bit of searching on here, I switched off Antialiasing, used Rivatuner to force my gfx card to run Pixelshader 1.4 (instead of the slooooow 2.0) and dropped my shading quality to medium.

My textures are still on high, I'm running at 1024x768 and things are MUCH smoother and faster. The game is now playable!

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Post by Mikeydamob » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 15:39

First off I checked the forum rules ( http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=99003 )

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So please make sure you dont get my thread locked and read this guys...

Anyway, I've been reading here and there about the game and it seems there are several problems with it that have convinced me NOT to buy it.

1.The savegame corruption bug.
Now theres no telling if this will pop its head up, even if the patch fixes it, theres no telling if it can come back and I dont want to spend weeks playing only to have to start again.

2.Low performance on high end machines.
It seems people with very high end hardware are getting very bad framerates, and the hud seems to be the general cause of it, but then again on other systems it doesnt. I think the game has been released with too many serious bugs to warrant even thinking of buying it before it makes it past what I would call "retail beta".

3.Starforce protection.
I've been reading from google that it can destroy your optical drives and theres certainly no shortage of stories of this happening. I myself installed a demo which I was unaware of having Starforce and since I did my system refused to work as it should (crashes ALL the time - none before, CTD with other games, slow reaction etc).

So theres my reasons, like I said before if you guys can check over the rules before posting as I dont think this should be locked.

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Post by esd » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 15:43

delete their post
We don't delete anything, sorry.

I'll move this into one of the existing threads regarding purchasing and/or returning X, as we have plenty already :)
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Post by Everyones Antihero » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 16:26

im skeptical aboyut a lot of stuff in this game but by and large im satified.

im sure the rest will be patchjed and scripted to perfection in time.
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Post by DaveAshton » Mon, 7. Nov 05, 20:09

The combat in the new game makes the old version feel like you're playing it on a 486. The momentum, inertia and the absence of collisions makes for much better dogfighting, but the real winner is when you combine that with the suped up graphics and the real VIOLENCE in the explosions with surround sound and the volume up. This game would get my absolute endorsement if egosoft would fix the bugs in it. Personally I feel that they have scrimped on the games testing, and in doing so have forced the general public to report the errors for them. Judging by the number of people who have returned the game, I think that that has cost them dearly. I only hope that the fool who made that decision loses his christmas bonus. (The frustration seems to have made me a little vicious)
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