What graphics card is best for me? How to upgrade for X3?

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Post by CBJ » Fri, 28. Oct 05, 18:33

No. The GeForce4 MX cards do not have pixel shader support.

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Post by Jhanactus » Fri, 28. Oct 05, 18:35

Bother. Looks like I'm upgrading, then. Many thanks!

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Post by Britguy21 » Fri, 28. Oct 05, 20:42

Got my fx5900Xt on medium settings and is still jumpy. I`ve been having problems on a few other games as well though. The rest of my system is fine Athlonb 64 3200+/ 1.5Gb DDR400.

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Ok... Recommend a card please for X3

Post by Jon Tetrino » Fri, 28. Oct 05, 21:08

...ive got an eye for a 6600 (students budget see), maybe a 6800 if i can push it.

any card to recommend? AGP only please

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Post by scoochy » Fri, 28. Oct 05, 21:23

lol, there's more posts in this thread talking about how off topic it is than there are actually answering the question.

Might as well go with the 6800. the AGP version is actually pretty cheap. Go for the best, you should be able to string it out longer before needing to upgrade again.

EDIT: somehow I missed that link to the 7 pages of video crad blah blah

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What are the best Nvidia Drivers for X3?

Post by shadows » Fri, 28. Oct 05, 21:27

Hey there,

I've tried running X3 with the latest 81.85 Nvidia drivers and although it is quite smooth it still gets jerky at some times (in the intro with the ships flyby for example) I was wondering if anyone found a driver to be better than the latest ones (tried searching back in the posts for the past hour but haven't found anything relevant)

My config:

Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
Memory: 1024MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra 256Mb

well of to try and tweak the settings.

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Post by Jon Tetrino » Fri, 28. Oct 05, 21:45

scoochy wrote:lol, there's more posts in this thread talking about how off topic it is than there are actually answering the question.

Might as well go with the 6800. the AGP version is actually pretty cheap. Go for the best, you should be able to string it out longer before needing to upgrade again.

EDIT: somehow I missed that link to the 7 pages of video crad blah blah
cheap as in £200? that aint cheap...

...actually the specs show that the 6600GT is better than the standard 6800

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Post by BillyX3 » Fri, 28. Oct 05, 21:57

Yea me too,

seems a bit jerky (nvidia 81.85)

running 7800 GTX [ :) ]
on a Dual 3.2 GHz pentium D840

Maybe 1.3 patch ? :?

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Post by nuclear_eclipse » Fri, 28. Oct 05, 22:04

The 78.01 drivers are MUCH better for use with X3. I suggest holding off on the upgrade for now, and go back to 78.01 if at all possible.

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Post by simonnance » Fri, 28. Oct 05, 22:04

GeForce 6600 GT 256MB is about £150 inc vat at most places
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/ ... eries.html
want the FACTS about X2/X3?
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Post by shadows » Fri, 28. Oct 05, 22:23

nuclear_eclipse wrote:The 78.01 drivers are MUCH better for use with X3. I suggest holding off on the upgrade for now, and go back to 78.01 if at all possible.
*Edit* Well, just tried them and they didn't seem to make a difference, in fact it seemed a bit slower with those, I think I'm gona stick with the 81.85 and try to tweak the game a bit

thanks for the suggestion though

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Post by Cycrow » Sat, 29. Oct 05, 14:31

Nividium wrote:
scoochy wrote:lol, there's more posts in this thread talking about how off topic it is than there are actually answering the question.

Might as well go with the 6800. the AGP version is actually pretty cheap. Go for the best, you should be able to string it out longer before needing to upgrade again.

EDIT: somehow I missed that link to the 7 pages of video crad blah blah
cheap as in £200? that aint cheap...

...actually the specs show that the 6600GT is better than the standard 6800
the standard 6800's can be hard for about £80

as far as performance goes, the 6800LE is just below the 6600GT but with the extra 4 pipelines of the standard 6800 pushes it just ahead of the 6600GT

The main advantage of these cards is there clocking potential alot are able to unlock the extra pipelines and shaders while increase the clock speeds of the gpu and memory.

If your lucky u can get a standard 6800 or 6800LE is simlar performance as the 6800GT
but even if u cant get it that far, its still quite alot quicker than the 6600GT and for roughly the same price

the 256bit memory bandwidth will also help alot in games over the 128bit of the 6600GT

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Post by Dhore » Sat, 29. Oct 05, 14:41

I just run the Everest Tool as suggested on the first page and In a report on my crappy GeForce 4 Ti4800SE its said this -


Field Value
AGP Status Disabled
Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x


Field Value
Problem AGP is disabled. This may cause performance penalty.

Im a bit of a n00b when it comes to these things - ive looked in the BIOS setup (where I thought the option to enable AGP was) and I cant find anything - am I doing something wrong - why is AGP disabled?

a fast response would be cool as Im going out to look at new cards in a min. I just wanna know if this AGP thing is making a huge difference

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Who has no problem run X3 close or same as my PC system?

Post by humility925 » Sun, 30. Oct 05, 04:21

Well, it's not like "Can is it run on my system?" but rather "Can run well on PC System, Well, it's almost on Recommended Requirements but Amd Athlon 64 Processor +3000 2.01 while Recommended Requirements said 2.4, But still I read some on forum people has a more than Recommended Requirements and still have problem running X3

So who has system like my system that's has no problem running X3, same or closer

AMD Athlon 64 Processor
3000+
2.01, 1.00 GB of RAM
Radeon ATI 9800 Pro 256mb
Windows XP Professional Version 2002 Service Pack 2

Thank, :?:

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Best ATI drivers? 9600

Post by Krytoss » Sun, 30. Oct 05, 04:47

Hey everyone

wanted to post this in tech support, but as i've yet to get the game (anyone in Canada have it?), i cant post there.

specific card: Sapphire Radeon 9600 Atlantis (128mb)
current drivers: omega 2.5.58

what are the best drivers out there right now?

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Post by Schizosimian » Sun, 30. Oct 05, 04:51

im thinking about getting that card (Radeon ATI 9800 Pro 256mb) - how do you find it?

In relation to graphics etc and most importantly X3 (and X2 if ur having probs with x3)

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Post by Korban » Sun, 30. Oct 05, 05:37

I had the same problem, cant post there til im registered, and i wont get game til nov 10th

Is this good for the game?

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Post by xeon_1 » Sun, 30. Oct 05, 10:02

just install the latest think 5.10 without the control center work fine here

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Post by humility925 » Sun, 30. Oct 05, 10:39

Laughing_Monkey wrote:im thinking about getting that card (Radeon ATI 9800 Pro 256mb) - how do you find it?

In relation to graphics etc and most importantly X3 (and X2 if ur having probs with x3)
I buy at Newegg.com about year ago. But I'm not sure I still need to upgrade RAM, I have no problem set max X-2 but not sure X-3, I should get DVD in 2-3 day laters, (Hopeful)

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Post by nitebot » Sun, 30. Oct 05, 11:35

As I have said before, this game feels like a game written for the next generation of PCs. Therefore, if you don't have a current gen graphics card, you will struggle to run the game in decent detail. You need an ATI X series card or an nvidia 6600, 6800 or 7800 ideally. Even my X800XL isn't always convincing at times espeiclaly when lots of stations and ships are in view and it's trying to deal with all the movement and rotations.

I just hope the 9600s and 9800s are up to the job more so than the FX based systems which I know can take performance hits with shaders.
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