X2 + 2 CPUs / DualCore

[Fachtna]

i used to suffer the same performance issues until i unpacked the game and changed my ram (had 2x 512 333ddr chips and 1x 512 400Dddr. changed them all to 400)

runs like a dream now. even tested it by creating 150 KM3's and got to work with the psg. sorted.

running an athlone xp 2700+ chipset with a 128mb geforce card (geforce ti 4200)

you tried all the usual tricks, system cleanup, defrag etc?

[$Vanger$.EG]

Of corse if I get more power to computer I also upgrade XP Home to XP Pro...

Better spend this money on a decent hardware. "Upgrade" from Home to Pro doesn't add anything more, than a pair of background servises. Security policies and such unusable for gaming stuff. When you stop all unnesessary services, it really does not matter, what version of XP do you use.

[Sorry, cut]

It's not even worth this money, but most of games are made for win-platform(.. I'd give everything for X2 at my Slackware system..

[The_Abyss]

Enough of the piracy talk please, no matter where you may be posting from.

[Tare69]

Windows XP Pro because I want get more from my hardware... I think that Home-version do not support many prosessors... And also I did last time buy NT4 workstadion (I have old packet from Microsoft where was NT4 work and server, all paid) in autum and it cost about 160e... If I do get more power to computer then I put Win XP x64 in there then...

[Phate[x2]]

and I need to know how much two prosessors will faster X2

None. X2 is not set up to handle dual processors. For that matter, your OS most likely isn't either. The idea that more processors = faster is something that AMD and Intel would like you to believe, but it's rarely true.
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IMHO: AMD have been more true to reality concerning cpu speeds in the sense that at least in terms of gigahertz (and the now closed gigahertz wars) more = faster. It was only about 2/3 months ago that intel gave up on ghz orientated cpu's, with the indefinate shelving of their pentium 4 4ghz, and a new focus on larger cache memory on the cpu's.

[pjknibbs]

AMD true to reality on gigahertz? That'll be why they had 2GHz CPUs labelled as "3000+", whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. At least Intel's stated clockspeed was always the same as the actual CPU speed!

[The_Abyss]

Which Intel has now dropped

[Phate[x2]]

AMD true to reality on gigahertz? That'll be why they had 2GHz CPUs labelled as "3000+", whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. At least Intel's stated clockspeed was always the same as the actual CPU speed!

Point Taken but.......

At least amd gave a reference between the 2 (athlon and amd cpu's) admittedly my original view was a bit over amd friendly but my perception of them have always been that they were more "on the ball" than intel were but hey maybe i was just taken in by the corporate propoganda.

[P_J_M]

Mind it would be cool if having 2 3ghz processeors gave you a 6ghz PC.

It is (Well almost 3 GHz)

And they're hyperthreaded

And you need XP Pro, (or NT, or 2000) to run more than one CPU, multi processor support was cut out of XP Home, along with a large chunk of the networking capability.

X2 gains no benefit from having 2 CPU's, although you can shove most winblows tasks onto one CPU, and run the game on the other.
I got a good FPS boost from doing this.

[Tare69]

Heh... I try last night about setups...
(My computer have XP Home, 1Gb ram, AIW9800SE)
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Video Settings during test:
Screen Resolution: 640*480*16
Bumpmapping: Off
Realtime Shadows: Off

Framerates
Scene 00 150.643 fps
Scene 01 100.546 fps
Scene 02 52.620 fps
Scene 03 172.191 fps
Scene 04 106.328 fps
Scene 05 76.306 fps
Scene 06 115.265 fps
Scene 07 135.608 fps
Scene 08 157.655 fps
Scene 09 65.574 fps
Scene 10 77.353 fps
Scene 11 62.490 fps
Scene 12 76.815 fps
Scene 13 212.712 fps
Scene 14 115.808 fps
Scene 15 121.269 fps
Scene 16 164.823 fps
Scene 17 110.044 fps
Scene 18 49.342 fps
Scene 19 120.186 fps
Scene 20 100.832 fps
Scene 21 113.019 fps
Scene 22 172.479 fps
Scene 23 106.543 fps

Overall average framerate: 114.019 fps
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Screen Resolution: 640*480*32
Bumpmapping: On
Realtime Shadows: On

Framerates
Scene 00 68.943 fps
Scene 01 43.739 fps
Scene 02 25.050 fps
Scene 03 30.264 fps
Scene 04 27.870 fps
Scene 05 33.642 fps
Scene 06 35.181 fps
Scene 07 70.015 fps
Scene 08 66.044 fps
Scene 09 36.348 fps
Scene 10 39.891 fps
Scene 11 39.047 fps
Scene 12 41.289 fps
Scene 13 38.128 fps
Scene 14 49.379 fps
Scene 15 27.872 fps
Scene 16 79.726 fps
Scene 17 52.632 fps
Scene 18 29.537 fps
Scene 19 31.173 fps
Scene 20 61.208 fps
Scene 21 48.404 fps
Scene 22 72.292 fps
Scene 23 67.242 fps

Overall average framerate: 46.455 fps
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Video Settings during test:
Screen Resolution: 1024*768*32
Bumpmapping: Off
Realtime Shadows: Off

Framerates
Scene 00 110.867 fps
Scene 01 62.611 fps
Scene 02 30.078 fps
Scene 03 94.209 fps
Scene 04 59.678 fps
Scene 05 44.946 fps
Scene 06 64.502 fps
Scene 07 87.360 fps
Scene 08 101.511 fps
Scene 09 45.142 fps
Scene 10 50.137 fps
Scene 11 47.341 fps
Scene 12 60.266 fps
Scene 13 105.924 fps
Scene 14 86.551 fps
Scene 15 59.374 fps
Scene 16 97.832 fps
Scene 17 84.739 fps
Scene 18 39.219 fps
Scene 19 67.889 fps
Scene 20 77.258 fps
Scene 21 74.523 fps
Scene 22 105.011 fps
Scene 23 66.893 fps

Overall average framerate: 71.828 fps
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Video Settings during test:
Screen Resolution: 1024*768*32
Bumpmapping: On
Realtime Shadows: Off

Framerates
Scene 00 83.865 fps
Scene 01 29.222 fps
Scene 02 15.931 fps
Scene 03 68.505 fps
Scene 04 44.634 fps
Scene 05 36.938 fps
Scene 06 45.835 fps
Scene 07 58.717 fps
Scene 08 53.293 fps
Scene 09 44.968 fps
Scene 10 40.542 fps
Scene 11 39.844 fps
Scene 12 46.772 fps
Scene 13 56.580 fps
Scene 14 57.793 fps
Scene 15 38.155 fps
Scene 16 66.041 fps
Scene 17 71.182 fps
Scene 18 31.275 fps
Scene 19 46.267 fps
Scene 20 60.867 fps
Scene 21 58.401 fps
Scene 22 74.675 fps
Scene 23 49.960 fps

Overall average framerate: 50.844 fps
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This is what I use when playing X2:

Video Settings during test:
Screen Resolution: 1024*768*32
Bumpmapping: On
Realtime Shadows: On

Framerates
Scene 00 61.327 fps
Scene 01 26.503 fps
Scene 02 12.196 fps
Scene 03 15.165 fps
Scene 04 14.689 fps
Scene 05 18.861 fps
Scene 06 18.111 fps
Scene 07 43.757 fps
Scene 08 39.661 fps
Scene 09 31.997 fps
Scene 10 23.367 fps
Scene 11 31.404 fps
Scene 12 30.478 fps
Scene 13 19.418 fps
Scene 14 37.841 fps
Scene 15 14.535 fps
Scene 16 43.736 fps
Scene 17 32.258 fps
Scene 18 25.513 fps
Scene 19 16.591 fps
Scene 20 45.004 fps
Scene 21 28.381 fps
Scene 22 39.341 fps
Scene 23 42.260 fps

Overall average framerate: 29.683 fps

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Okei... Must play setup:

Screen Resolution: 1024*768*32
Bumpmapping: Off
Realtime Shadows: Off

[lukethegordie]

Mind it would be cool if having 2 3ghz processeors gave you a 6ghz PC.

It is (Well almost 3 GHz)

And they're hyperthreaded

And you need XP Pro, (or NT, or 2000) to run more than one CPU, multi processor support was cut out of XP Home, along with a large chunk of the networking capability.

X2 gains no benefit from having 2 CPU's, although you can shove most winblows tasks onto one CPU, and run the game on the other.
I got a good FPS boost from doing this.

If a game was designed so that its processes could be streached across multiple CPUs then I guess you could class it as running at double speed. There probley is games designed to be run on hyperthreaded dual system but i doubt there that populare as not many People can afford a 2 Xeon or mp cpus. i think they charge double the price per cpu.

Nice system btw

[pjknibbs]

I believe Quake 3 (and probably Doom 3 as well, though I can't confirm that) are both multi-threaded and take advantage of multiple CPUs. Perforce anything based on the engines of these games will be the same.

[P_J_M]

Nice system btw

Thank You

I didn't buy this system for gaming, I'm a freelance 3D artist, so it's a business expense really.

I do play games on it in my free time, when not here.

The applications I use are able to use all the CPU power available, and boy does it make a difference when you have a million poly model you need to manipulate, or a Raytrace render to do by a deadline.

PJK, I'll have to try that out, I haven't put Doom 3 on this system, but now I will.
Quake 3....phah, I'm in the UT club

[Tare69]

I know (before this treat) that X2 do not support 2xCPU but queston was that if somebody has played X2 with 2xCPU and SLI and let X2 to use second CPU by self and if also SLI is used then how much there is more fps player has get? And so is that so much better than one CPU... And difference about AMD XPxxxx+ and AMD64 prosessors in same thing...

I can't get memory go DDR400 so it goes DDR333 but yesterday I download nTune program from NVIDIAN and tuned my computer it...

Now
Core: 2244,4MHz
Memory: 170MHz

So some power more is in computer but not yet enought... fps:73.51... Battles are not yet so good...