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Post by The_Abyss » Tue, 9. Mar 04, 22:33

Excellent guide.

For information, a help guide is currently in construction which will contain many useful player guides like this (with the author's permission of course :wink: ).

Once created, this will likely be stickied and available for download. It will also contain links to the relevant posts in the forum.

Keep 'em coming everyone!!!
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Post by Sir Crashalot » Tue, 9. Mar 04, 22:40

I built my empire on mining, using my profits to build my factories and eventually getting my Nova. :)

I then took the most profitable route of capturing ships. ;)

IMO Mining is the best way to get your empire started, once you`ve got that initial 400k credits to buy your set up.

Good work on the guide. :)
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Post by Mcitchy » Tue, 9. Mar 04, 23:13

I'm interested in hearing more about this hornet missile mining that was touched upon. Does it always take 1 hornet per roid?

I like the idea of using hornets as they come two-a-penny when either capping or killing pirate ships and would also save time getting close enough to the asteroid to using the Mining Laser - (why waste the time travelling that last 10k when a hornet will do :))

You could call it the "dynamite fishermans mining technique(tm)" :lol:

with 2 or 3 collector manta's it could potentially be a far faster way of mining roids.

any ideas?

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Post by Commander Jamieson » Tue, 9. Mar 04, 23:30

Only Hornet missiles can break up asteroids, any other missile is useless.

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Post by Mcitchy » Tue, 9. Mar 04, 23:56

aye but how many :) - turns out to be one, my mining operation now consists of 3 manta's collecting, and me nova making the chunks with hornets.

200000c on hornets from paranid prime translates into just over 600000c for a fast profit. You have to launch from under 10km or no bang :)

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Post by ched » Wed, 10. Mar 04, 15:02

great work, it's mining all the way for me now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by -TD-13- » Wed, 10. Mar 04, 23:12

michael edwards wrote:great work, it's mining all the way for me now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cool! Glad it helped.

I'll look into hornets today.... the only thing I was worried about was that hornet missiles destroyed some of the yeild along with the asteriod.
I doubt it's true though.


Anyway, after checking it out a little more, all add a Hornet missile section to the guide.


Strikes me kinda odd though.... why spend all of this money on a ship with a fancy laser if you can just blow the thing up with a cheap missile?
I mean.... whats the point of the ship and laser then? :gruebel:
(well, I guess it will save you some money in the very long run...)

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Post by EverythingXen » Thu, 11. Mar 04, 09:14

Easy. Once paid for you always have the mobile mining laser. There's less finding a juicy 26 yield sillicon asteroid and hitting L to hear "Hornet missile... not installed."

The mobile laser costs something like 160,000.... which is 16 Hornet missiles (if you don't capture some, which eats into mining time). 16 asteroids? Depending on the yield that probably wouldn't even fill my Herc.

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Post by The_Abyss » Thu, 11. Mar 04, 09:52

TD005013 wrote:I'll look into hornets today.... the only thing I was worried about was that hornet missiles destroyed some of the yeild along with the asteriod.
I doubt it's true though.
AFAIK this is true - a hornet mining method will yield less from the 'roid than the mining laser.
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Post by Guest » Thu, 11. Mar 04, 11:15

I only asked this cause i want to get rid of some asteroids, not for making much profit.
Of course if you want to do professional mobile mining it's much better to use the mining laser but if you only want to remove some asteroids it seems to be better to use some hornets if your ship can carry them...

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Post by Mcitchy » Thu, 11. Mar 04, 12:03

EverythingXen wrote:
The mobile laser costs something like 160,000.... which is 16 Hornet missiles (if you don't capture some, which eats into mining time). 16 asteroids? Depending on the yield that probably wouldn't even fill my Herc.
hehe Moving into position to fire the laser also eats into mining time :)

By my reckoning the hornet method is more of a way to get you earning quicker in the early game when all you have is a ship capable of captures and a few captures is enough to finance this venture, if your lucky you can get the bits to piece together a fully functioning orinocco and enough starter cash from sales to buy a couple of Manta's with Ore Collectors & Spec. Command software installed. It takes a while to get tha first 17+ million credits for a TL :)

For people like me who can't be doing with the time it takes to move into position / fly a slow mover to an asteroid / move into position (TS's aren't exactly nippy ya know :)) hornets are the strip mining alternative to "normal" mining operations.

Fly to sector > Scan the asteroids, 1 nuke for each high yield silicon asteroid you find (I usually hit the 18+ ones) > send in the Manta's on collect wares duty > wait for manta's to fill up > give the Manta's somewhere to sell there wares > wash > rinse > repeat. Meanwhile you are free to protect your investment from your handy m3 and may well get some more captures while the AI does the scarpering about cleaning up the mess :)

Each Manta can hold 200 silicon which translates into 100k credits per trip making for a 90k clear profit per trip if you pay for the hornet rather than capturing it, which may just get you the TL that bit quicker. Add to that the inexpensive cost of the Manta's and before long you can have the money flowing in no time. With the added bonus of your combat rank and cash increasing from the used ship market.

It is quite feasible to goto somewhere like ore belt and destroy all the asteroids and leave the manta's collecting while you get on with the plot or do whatever you have to do,with the added advantage of giving you something to monitor while your out doing triskale/factory inspection missions or whatever takes you fancy.

I restarted for 1.3 last night on extreme, and i'm currently trying to fund the initial outlay, I've got a "borrowed" barracuda waiting to be kitted out - captured with a 25mw shield intact, 3 orinoco's waiting to be sold and have the express from mission 2 waiting with the boron onboard so i can attempt capture of one of the super orinoco's that come at you on the way to HoL. After that i'll setup a SPP in KE for some constant cashflow.

Personally I cant wait to see just how fast this setup will bring in the credits using a fast TL with Jump as a base of operations.

In the game I quit I had 13mill banked and my initial "test" miners in opertion.

Re Yield: Regardless of any wastage all mining operations are pure profit once the infrastructure is in place. This method of mining may be more suited to the Mercenary type players than those more into trading.

This is all just my opinion on the matter, if it doesn't work for you or fit with your style of play then what the hay, Personally i like to keep an open mind. :)

peace.

P.S. Well done on the guide. 8)

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Post by 3iff » Thu, 11. Mar 04, 14:44

An asteroid respawns in 2-3 hours??? Not in my experience. More like 2-3 days (or longer).

You might also mention the script "ore collect V2" which allows team mantas to operate from a TL, auto collect fragments and return to base. You just break the rocks and the team does the collecting for you.

Nicely put together though...

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Post by 3iff » Thu, 11. Mar 04, 14:48

You also forgot to mention about those HUGE asteroids with tunnels that you can't break up with normal mining...

...fly inside a tunnel, then shoot.

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Post by Kryten » Thu, 11. Mar 04, 15:05

Great guide TD, gave it a go and felt like I was getting my hands dirty, strange to feel like I was doing some honest work for a change. :D

This is definately one of the top ways to get credits although I feel that the hard work would have me going back to automated trading later on, now hopefully they'l put a mining script in and everything will be peachy :wink:
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Post by Momaw » Thu, 11. Mar 04, 21:34

Brianetta wrote:It's also going to go south to join Mobile Mining 101, as all good posts do.
Might as well just get rid of my guide, this one makes it obsolete. *crawls away sadly*
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