X3AP - Unprovoked Argon Attack ?

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Sesk
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X3AP - Unprovoked Argon Attack ?

Post by Sesk »

I started out as Argon Peacekeeper.

After a while, I went to Teladi space. I was on a "retrieve abandoned ship", repairing it, when an Argon group of fighters and bombers jumps in and attacks my ship.

Totally clueless as to why they attacked me.
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Post by jack775544 »

The same has happened to me. I started as an Argon Patriot and I had a local trader running in the Argon Prime area. I than get a message saying that it was under attack and a look on the sector map showed that a couple of Argon Nova's and a Centar were attacking it. I haven't done anything bad against the Argon. So it appears that I will now be trading in Boron space instead :) .
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Post by Bothersome »

The return ship missions have a time limit on them. When the time limit expires, the ship is considered stolen (by you, you criminal). So the police show up to destroy your prize.
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Post by AsThe3rdEye »

I'm minding my own business in Argon Prime via a custom game, trying to get my tractor beam to work because I miss-clicked and dropped a station in a bad area, when a red/hostile Argon Military Minitaur jumps in from the east gate and dumps a barrage of flail missiles and MK2 remotes on both my stations and me, then jumps out.

I`ve tried hailing it and get the weapons error option, which turns it blue for five seconds before it renews it`s attack. I follow it around The Wall and it's fine, blue and friendly but after a few seconds in Argon Prime it goes hostile, only to me and no other ships join the fight. What the ....? I really want to love this game, but with the draconian interface, having to screw around with my codecs just to run cutscenes and this latest kick in the pants, X3 is making it really hard.
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Post by infy dev »

AsThe3rdEye wrote:I'm minding my own business in Argon Prime via a custom game, trying to get my tractor beam to work because I miss-clicked and dropped a station in a bad area, when a red/hostile Argon Military Minitaur jumps in from the east gate and dumps a barrage of flail missiles and MK2 remotes on both my stations and me, then jumps out.

I`ve tried hailing it and get the weapons error option, which turns it blue for five seconds before it renews it`s attack. I follow it around The Wall and it's fine, blue and friendly but after a few seconds in Argon Prime it goes hostile, only to me and no other ships join the fight. What the ....? I really want to love this game, but with the draconian interface, having to screw around with my codecs just to run cutscenes and this latest kick in the pants, X3 is making it really hard.
as far as I can tell, the Argon or Terrans will attack any ship you have unattended (OOS) in the war zone sectors (at least, if you haven't joined in yet); I'd say the Argon who showed up to attack was originally spawned to attack one of your ships and has managed to get all the way across the galaxy while still nursing a grudge.

for me, this is an issue since UTs don't completely respect the blacklist, and they occasionally jump into the war zone to refuel & end up causing an Incident.
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Post by AsThe3rdEye »

infy dev wrote:as far as I can tell, the Argon or Terrans will attack any ship you have unattended (OOS) in the war zone sectors (at least, if you haven't joined in yet); I'd say the Argon who showed up to attack was originally spawned to attack one of your ships and has managed to get all the way across the galaxy while still nursing a grudge.

for me, this is an issue since UTs don't completely respect the blacklist, and they occasionally jump into the war zone to refuel & end up causing an Incident.
Maybe, but none of the ships I had in Argon Prime had ever been past Legend's Home, which does house some of my ST's, all of whom have gone unmolested. I haven't even seen a Terran so far in this game. It also went straight for my station complex, not a ship, while I was in system. It didn't even fire on the station I had misplaced earlier, but the complex that I was feeding off of.
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Post by SepticTooth »

If the station it was going after was for space fuel or space weed then that would be why, those are illegal in argon space and as such would provoke a response from the military ships.

If not then I'm not sure, the only problems with race fleets attacking me have been by the split, and that's because I alt tabbed while auto piloting through a gate, and when I came back to the game my centaur had slowly wandered into the next sector and was bouncing off the side of an SPP nearly dead by the time I saved it.

The Split took my tackling their SPP as an act of aggression and have since been very angry with me lol.
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Post by AsThe3rdEye »

SepticTooth wrote:If the station it was going after was for space fuel or space weed then that would be why, those are illegal in argon space and as such would provoke a response from the military ships.

If not then I'm not sure, the only problems with race fleets attacking me have been by the split, and that's because I alt tabbed while auto piloting through a gate, and when I came back to the game my centaur had slowly wandered into the next sector and was bouncing off the side of an SPP nearly dead by the time I saved it.

The Split took my tackling their SPP as an act of aggression and have since been very angry with me lol.
Solar farms, crystal fabs, beef and wheat farms and a bakery. And even if it was because of something illegal/an act of war, wouldn't the ships either
a) spawn in the sector, rather than meander in
or
b) Have the entire (sizeable) Argon navy that hangs around Argon Prime all turn hostile?
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Post by Belteshazzar »

I had a similar problem with a M1 back in TC. He went hostile for no reason, comm him he goes blue, and then 5 sec later he's back to shooting at my traders again. I never got a satisfactory explanation from my time in the forums, although I did find out it wasn't a unique problem. I ended up just using the no rep loss missile trick to nuke him.
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Post by lordshao »

blown the distilery, had jump all ships in sector not to be destroyed, lost about 4% reputation then i left the sector and it seems they did not followed me


seems i was wrong, this time a cerberus and titan came, and are curently atacking the spacefuel factory

hope they stop at that




found a way around this problem

i also had a spacefuel distilery

i entered conected station, stopped the production, and dumped all the space fuel into space

contacted the captain and apologized

and the ships left

it was alot cheaper than rebuilding the complex

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