3D Models and Stats Viewer : Version 2.0.3.2 (12th Dec 2010)

General discussions about the games by Egosoft including X-BTF, XT, X², X³: Reunion, X³: Terran Conflict and X³: Albion Prelude.

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Post by Old Silver » Tue, 10. Feb 09, 22:21

I just wanted to say thanks exogenesis for all the hard work in putting this super program together.

Much appreciated. :D

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Post by ianrobo75 » Tue, 10. Feb 09, 22:32

For information: Download didn't work from my Google Chrome browser, it downloaded a smaller sized corrupt file. Did work from IE7 though.

Oh, great work.

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Post by ephemeron » Tue, 10. Feb 09, 22:57

Many thanks for all the hard work! :thumb_up:
I particularly like the new option to see turrets' fields of fire.

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Post by BugMeister » Tue, 10. Feb 09, 23:49

uh-oh..
- I'm getting one of these.. :o
[ external image ]

- running XP SP3
- the whole universe is running in BETA mode - we're working on it.. beep..!! :D :thumb_up:

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Post by surferx » Wed, 11. Feb 09, 00:17

Thankyou exogenesis. Trying this on for size now... WOW! I love the b/g space effect. And this version seems to have more tools. I'm glad I've seen most of the ships in X3:TC by now because it's hard not to look at every one of them now. That could be a spoiler. :o Another is the weapon cones, showing where every ships weakest point is. Sweet.
You have designed an awesome tool for the community. Thanks a bunch.
:thumb_up: :thumb_up: :thumb_up:

[EDIT for more cool stuff] The cockpit/turret views are awesome , and some are surprising ie: where you're sitting exactly while flying in your ship.
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Post by exogenesis » Wed, 11. Feb 09, 01:40

NeverSnake
Interesting that 'invalid args' went, not sure I can explain that.
Good to hear it works on Vista64.
A) Loading .bod/.bob files without loading the game-files - difficult, since it needs to know where e.g. bod-scene component bod/bob files are in the cat files,
but you're right it wouldn't need to parse the T*.txt game-files- maybe I'll add a 'quick load' sticky option.
B) Multithreading - haven't thought about that yet, don't think it would help tbh.
The spray shop slowness is due to it actually changing the textures in memory on-the-fly, it shouldn't affect the final rendering fame rate.
Actually since textures got a lot bigger in TC (4x typical), this is a lot slower than it was in Reunion.
If I could find out how to use the Egosoft-shader light-rendering correctly, this would be very much quicker, cos it would be the same as in-game (ie instantaneous).

Old Silver : cheers *has another swig of beer*

ianrobo75 : can't explain that, but I haven't approached Chrome with a long barge pole myself ;)

ephemeron : cheers *has another swig of beer*

BugMeister
At what point does that appear - after loading the game-files, or when loading a ship?


surferx : cheers *has another swig of beer*
These extra features are what took me so long to get a release out.

Hey my glass is empty ! *pops another can*



MBD
Downloaded that pluginmanager.cat, thanks. Seems a bit small to contain much, will have a test
Getting a 'not a valid JPEG file' from the filefactory download 'screenshot.jpg'
Hey were'd your post go!

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Post by IvanC » Wed, 11. Feb 09, 02:04

BugMeister wrote:uh-oh..
- I'm getting one of these.. :o
[ external image ]

- running XP SP3
I had the same problem. I have a few fake patches, scripts and 2 mods. What worked for me is leaving the Plugin Manager opened and minimized it. It loads unmodded, mod1, and mod2. Works like a champ.

exogenesis, awsome program dude, Thank you.

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Post by MBD » Wed, 11. Feb 09, 02:45

exogenesis wrote:Downloaded that pluginmanager.cat, thanks. Seems a bit small to contain much, will have a test
After I originally submitted the post I thought it was the wrong file. I deleted the post so I could go and check it without leaving a link to a possible wrong file.
exogenesis wrote:Getting a 'not a valid JPEG file' from the filefactory download 'screenshot.jpg'
Strange. After I saved the screenie to the desktop I opened it with the 'Windows Picture and Fax Viewer' without any problems. After I uploaded it, I dl it to check to see if the linky was OK. It also opened.

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exogenesis wrote:Hey were'd your post go!
Here it is again:
MBD wrote:
exogenesis wrote: Strange, my X3:R 2.5 + XTM + Ashley(XTM) works fine, I thought Ashley standalone was a higher version than 1.32 ?
Updated to Ashley v2.5. Crashes at the same point as v1.32.
exogenesis wrote:When you say ' & ships', I assume you've added some individual ships via plugin manager?
You assume correctly. The ships appear correctly in the game.
exogenesis wrote:Could you upload that pluginmanager.cat somewhere so I can test it?
http://www.filefactory.com/file/afh3b8b ... anager_cat
exogenesis wrote:Also try the diagnostic mode as above.
http://www.filefactory.com/file/afh3b79 ... enshot_jpg
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Post by BugMeister » Wed, 11. Feb 09, 03:46

IvanC wrote:
BugMeister wrote:uh-oh..
- I'm getting one of these.. :o
[ external image ]

- running XP SP3
I had the same problem. I have a few fake patches, scripts and 2 mods. What worked for me is leaving the Plugin Manager opened and minimized it. It loads unmodded, mod1, and mod2. Works like a champ.

exogenesis, awsome program dude, Thank you.
..wow, that sorts the problem out perfectly - cheers, IvanC :roll:

- this is a brilliant piece of work, exo
- the graphics are amazing - great design - love the new icons, etc
- now the player can really check out those weak spots on the enemy's craft in detail..

- it is the "must-have" addition to the game..!! :D :thumb_up:
- the whole universe is running in BETA mode - we're working on it.. beep..!! :D :thumb_up:

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Post by Shadow_180 » Wed, 11. Feb 09, 13:19

IvanC wrote:
BugMeister wrote:uh-oh..
- I'm getting one of these.. :o
[ external image ]

- running XP SP3
I had the same problem. I have a few fake patches, scripts and 2 mods. What worked for me is leaving the Plugin Manager opened and minimized it. It loads unmodded, mod1, and mod2. Works like a champ.

exogenesis, awsome program dude, Thank you.
I can also confirm that this fixes the problem (for me at least)

Pretty sure when playing X3:R I spent more time using the models viewer than I did playing the actual game. Now with all these sweet new features I might never manage to start X3:TC again! :lol:

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Post by dalin80 » Wed, 11. Feb 09, 14:29

great.

its great to see the turret coverage on most ships but it does give me errors on trying to load the K or J.
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Post by exogenesis » Wed, 11. Feb 09, 14:37

IvanC & BugMeister
that's really odd about needing pluginmanager open, implies a system dll version problem - I'll investigate

MBD
thanks for the info, will investigate, it's probable I've only tested Ashley v2.3 XTM specific, not the v2.5 'general' version.

dalin80
What sort of error do you get with the K & J ?

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Post by dalin80 » Wed, 11. Feb 09, 14:40

'illegal operation'

but its only intermittent , killing the app and restarting can get it working again 50% of the time.
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Post by NeverSnake » Wed, 11. Feb 09, 16:23

exogenesis wrote:A) Loading .bod/.bob files without loading the game-files - difficult, since it needs to know where e.g. bod-scene component bod/bob files are in the cat files,
but you're right it wouldn't need to parse the T*.txt game-files- maybe I'll add a 'quick load' sticky option.
a) sorry, that may have been bad phrasing on my part. I was just suggesting adding a gate to the list of things that can be opened within the viewer rather than having to point the viewer to it's files manually.
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Post by Sinuhe » Wed, 11. Feb 09, 18:48

You don't need to leave Pluginmanager open. For me it works perfectly, when I delete or temporarily move 0X.cat and *.dat files, which are created by the manager, to another directory. Maybe the slightly modified versions of TWareT.txt and/or TWareN.txt inside the *.cat cause the crash.
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Post by exogenesis » Wed, 11. Feb 09, 20:19

NeverSnake
I see, maybe there are some other 'common' objects, that could be put into a 'miscellaneous' selection-grid.
I might still do shields & wares stats-only grids.

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Post by exogenesis » Mon, 16. Feb 09, 14:43

New version 2.0.0.2, no new features,
but loads a lot quicker & copes with TC mods better (I think).

Please give any problems/functionality feedback if possible, cheers.

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Post by BugMeister » Mon, 16. Feb 09, 15:15

[ external image ]

- Split say: "This very quickly working is..!!?" :roll:
- the whole universe is running in BETA mode - we're working on it.. beep..!! :D :thumb_up:

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Post by PabloRSA » Mon, 16. Feb 09, 16:11

Split and Argon chip plants give me an invalid argument error while loading there pictures with stats.

I have vanilla install.

I will test all the others but so far 3 additonal ones with errors.

Please wait........

Ok it seems only to show if there has been a blank space selected.

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Post by exogenesis » Mon, 16. Feb 09, 20:08

:) It's wonderful what a bit of pre-indexing does for loading speed,
actually I was quite surprised to get the game-file load this quick
(1.692 secs on my old dog of a PC)

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That occasional 'invalid argument' error is random, still trying to track it down...

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