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a question...

Posted: Sat, 28. Mar 09, 20:58
by effep
I have a question about these alternative starts...
most of the starts have "Storyline Enabled" on them...but what storyline? does each have their own storyline? or does it mean the terran storyline?
ive started a few of them and do see that they start out with some special mission, but, other then that starting mission, are they any different in storyline than the other starts?

im assuming that each start simply has a different starting position/ship/money/relations/etc and it gives 1 or 2 missions that otherwise are not available.

but i havent gone long enough to see if the "storyline" is completely different or if you still always do the long terran mission-story-line in all start points?

i really would have a hard time believing that there are so many start points and that each has its own long storyline to it! that would be too much to play!

that being said, is the terran plotline possibly the only LONG plotline? as in continuous missions and an actual storyline that develops the universe while you progress? then the other start points are simply more or less "custom" games however with a special start, and a short mission line to start you off?

ok if im not being so clear, i dont know how else to word it, so...basically, do all start points have full long storylines or how long are they?

it makes it hard to chose which start point to play if they all have fullblown storyline and plot behind each of them...i feel then like i have to actually play them all, or at least 80% of them which are interesting. and thats just too many hours! id be playing this game for 2 more years!

Posted: Sat, 28. Mar 09, 21:09
by Targ Collective
With a couple of exceptions, they all share the same storylines: HUB Plot, Goner Plot, Terran Plot, HQ Plot, Operation Final Fury plot.

There are two that start with extra plot too.

Custom starts have no plots.

Posted: Sun, 29. Mar 09, 09:38
by effep
ah ya i read another thread here and found out a bit more...

but im still not 100% clear...
im assuming its like this though: that when you have the required relation/rank/whatever, you can start any plotline of any of the mission-storylines no matter which game start you chose (other than of course storyline disabled starts)...
and then the poised paranid and teladi starts each have a plotline that you can only get from doing those starts...
that about sum it up correctly?

that makes things alot clearer and more logical now...in fact thats pretty cool now that i understand it, really open ended.

Posted: Sun, 29. Mar 09, 11:21
by maphys
Yup that is right.

M

Posted: Wed, 1. Apr 09, 08:30
by eskeemer
Elucca wrote:There's a registry trick that should unlock all of them.

Don't do anything you're not sure about in the registry.

1. Go to Start -> Run -> regedit (or on Vista, just write regedit on the start menu's search bar)
2. Search for Egosoft, browse to the X3TC folder.
3. Double click on "GameStarts".
4. Change the value to fffff.

That should do it.
tried this couldn`t sort it out can some one do me a step by step don`t want to muck about in the registry too much.

Posted: Fri, 3. Apr 09, 03:58
by baric
Okay so you have listed here that the Unholy traitor starts in Family Rhonkar. It keeps starting in Family pride for me which makes it a LONG trip to get out of Split Space. This is a Vanilla new Install of the game as well.

Ok now I get Family Zyarth and just found the post that it is random....5 DiD starts done now lol....this last one the BH showed up almost immediately.

Posted: Fri, 3. Apr 09, 10:56
by Carlo the Curious
vbruzual wrote:Something is wrong with the Lost Lar start. I finished the hub plot (and the HQ), I'm top rank with the borons and still not unlocked. What could be happening?
Sometimes the game appears to miss achievements. You'd need to check the registry key to work out exactly which it thinks you have.
EmperorJon wrote:Unholy Traitor isn't right either. I have not completed the Terran Storyline but I have it unlocked!
The listed reqs are wrong - it's just fight rank and Split rep.
eskeemer wrote:tried this couldn`t sort it out can some one do me a step by step don`t want to muck about in the registry too much.
You don't get much more step-by-step than Elucca's post. What couldn't you do?
baric wrote:Okay so you have listed here that the Unholy traitor starts in Family Rhonkar. It keeps starting in Family pride for me which makes it a LONG trip to get out of Split Space. This is a Vanilla new Install of the game as well.
The starting sector is randomly chosen from a short list:

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<sectors>
  <sector x="15" y="15" /> 
  <sector x="15" y="3" /> 
  <sector x="18" y="5" /> 
  <sector x="7" y="2" /> 
  <sector x="8" y="3" /> 
  <sector x="6" y="4" /> 
</sectors>
Similarly:

Tormented Teladi

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<sectors>
- <!--  Sactity of Corruption 
  --> 
  <sector x="17" y="13" /> 
- <!--  Tears of Greed 
  --> 
  <sector x="20" y="7" /> 
- <!--  Aquisition Repository 
  --> 
  <sector x="11" y="9" /> 
</sectors>
Poisoned Paranid

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<sectors>
- <!--  Preachers Refuge 
  --> 
  <sector x="4" y="9" /> 
- <!--  Heaven's Assertion 
  --> 
  <sector x="10" y="15" /> 
</sectors>

Posted: Fri, 3. Apr 09, 17:06
by eskeemer
Carlo the Curious wrote:
eskeemer wrote:tried this couldn`t sort it out can some one do me a step by step don`t want to muck about in the registry too much.
You don't get much more step-by-step than Elucca's post. What couldn't you do?
Tried HKEY_Local_Machine/Software couldn`t find Egosoft folder or X3TC folder I`m not experienced with registry so didn`t want to go too far withut knowing what I`m doing


{tidied up - Carlo}

Posted: Fri, 3. Apr 09, 17:20
by Carlo the Curious
It's not in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, but you should have been able to find it by searching for Egosoft from the top level unless there's something odd about your installation.

The full key is HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\EGOSOFT\X3TC.


Also, embedding your reply in the middle of a massive quote isn't a good idea, since it looks like you haven't actually written anything.

Posted: Sat, 4. Apr 09, 17:12
by supakillaii
Hallowed are the Ori, I have updated this
:3

Posted: Sat, 4. Apr 09, 17:23
by Painman
...And the DWORD you're looking for is (surprise, surprise) "GameStarts".

If you wanna be like Painman, then you will adjust the value of this DWORD to (currently) 7ede Hex.

I've reinstalled the game so often of late, that I've memorized that Hex number :oops:

Posted: Sun, 12. Apr 09, 18:46
by Skumleren
I cant quite figure out how this is supposed to work. I am not getting unlocks as a should. I have a trade rank of capitalist and i still havent even gotten the boring boron unlock yet. Is it because i modified my game with other stuff than the official updates?

Posted: Wed, 15. Apr 09, 14:58
by Symplexity
Hi

I have a question about these plots.

With one save game, i just done the terran defender plot, got some rep with different races, started the HUB plot, got a nice trader and fight rank and i have different new start options if i start a new game.

But what im wondering is, can i for example also start one of the other plots with my current save game?

for example continue with the USC Commander plot with my current finished terran defender plot, or do i have to start a new game?

Thanks in advance

Posted: Wed, 15. Apr 09, 19:20
by maphys
All the starts have the same basic 4 plots (except Aldrin adventurer/Custom with no plots). There is no USC Commander plot. The only ones with extra plots are the Poisoned Paranid and Tormented Teladi and they require a restart to play as. The starts are more about what you get to play with, what your rep is at the start than anything else. They are not separate missions for the most part.

M

Posted: Wed, 15. Apr 09, 19:47
by pjknibbs
And note that the "extra plots" in Tormented Teladi and Poisoned Paranid consist of a single mission apiece, both of which just require you to earn a certain amount of money within a time limit--so you're not missing a great deal by not doing them.