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Post by delray » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 08:32

I have some input for Aldrin start. I can help you exclude some possibilites.

I have Terran plot finished, I own a Springblossom (and a bunch of other Aldrin ships too), I have explored all Terran sectors, my reputation with them is close to the top (second best)...

And I still don't have Aldrin start.

Springblossom isn't my favourite ship yet though. And that must be the problem here.

By the way, do not make a mistake of separating Aldrin ships from the rest of Terran fleet. Game treats them as Terran, Aldrin stations use your Terran reputation while selling too. So Springblossom is Terran. There's no "Aldrin ship" category, all of them are Terran.

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Post by shdwdrgn » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 15:25

Creston wrote:I THINK the Aldrin Explorer start unlocks once you buy somethin in the Aldrin sector.

Also, the Unholy Traitor start sector is random. It's always a split sector that's bordered by nothing but split sector, but I've had it start in Tharka's Sun, Family Zyarth and TKR's Deprivation. (Needless to say, I've never yet made it out of the first sector...)

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I have bought a springblossom from them and have 3 sector traders working there so I've bought a lot from them. Still don't have the start so......

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Post by supakillaii » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 15:39

Shdwdrgn and/or Delray, have you found all 22 stations? That might be the Prequisition.

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Post by GCU Grey Area » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 15:51

supakillaii wrote:Shdwdrgn and/or Delray, have you found all 22 stations? That might be the Prequisition.
Very doubtful that Ego would put in pre-reqs which the player has no control over. Stations in Aldrin are no more immune to being removed by the game than the stations in any other sector (it's removed 1 of the SPPs in mine since I mapped it).

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Post by supakillaii » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 16:12

Damn... what could it be?

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Post by shdwdrgn » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 16:32

supakillaii wrote:Shdwdrgn and/or Delray, have you found all 22 stations? That might be the Prequisition.
I have found all of the stations that are there. I only have 17. The rest are not present. I have had a ship go to all of the x,y,z positions of all mentioned stations and either I have already found it or there is just nothing there.

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Post by supakillaii » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 17:04

Dommache.
What could it be...

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Post by Gruntwhistle » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 18:03

- <!-- Aldran Adventurer
-->
- <gamestart id="112" name="{1900,2012}" description="{1900,2112}" difficulty="{1900,2212}" image="start08" plot="0" requirements="530">
<player name="{1900,2312}" species="{1900,2412}" gender="{1900,2512}" age="{1900,2612}" />
- <!-- Aldrin
-->
<sector x="13" y="10" />
<ship typename="SS_SH_LOST_M3H" />
</gamestart>
Was all I could find :( there's a list of requirements but they don't seem to match.
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Post by shdwdrgn » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 18:08

Gruntwhistle wrote:- <!-- Aldran Adventurer
-->
- <gamestart id="112" name="{1900,2012}" description="{1900,2112}" difficulty="{1900,2212}" image="start08" plot="0" requirements="530">
<player name="{1900,2312}" species="{1900,2412}" gender="{1900,2512}" age="{1900,2612}" />
- <!-- Aldrin
-->
<sector x="13" y="10" />
<ship typename="SS_SH_LOST_M3H" />
</gamestart>
Was all I could find :( there's a list of requirements but they don't seem to match.
If we can figure out what 530 means we can know the requirements......

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Post by Gruntwhistle » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 18:13

- <!-- Bitmask
1 =
2 = Terran plot completed
4 = Fight Rank 3,333 reached
8 = Trade Rank 3,333 reached
16 = Fight Rank 100,000 reached
32 = Trade Rank 100,000 reached
64 = Goner Plot Complete
128 = Tormented Teladi Completed
256 = HUB plot completed
512 = Argon Rank 10,000
1024 = Boron Rank 10,000
2048 = Split Rank 10,000
4096 = Paranid Rank 10,000
8192 = Teladi Rank 10,000
16384 = Argon Rank 333
32768 =

See not a great match...but hey if you can work it out ....cos I'm thick!
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Post by shdwdrgn » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 18:17

Where do you get that information from? I think I need to spend some time going through it and get this figured out. i'm just not sure how to get to it.

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Post by Aetius » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 18:17

'Tormented Teladi Complete'? What does that unlock?

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Post by Gruntwhistle » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 18:22

shdwdrgn wrote:Where do you get that information from? I think I need to spend some time going through it and get this figured out. i'm just not sure how to get to it.
unpack cat03 its in L\True\gamestarts.Xml
( along with the remmed out Yaki insurgent start in weavers whatnot)
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Post by Carlo the Curious » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 18:23

Gruntwhistle wrote:- <!-- Bitmask
Just sum up the bits to make the total (or use calc to convert it to binary).

530 = 512+16+2

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Post by shdwdrgn » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 18:24

Awesome. I'll have to do that today when I get off work.

...stupid work always getting in the way of X3...

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Post by Gruntwhistle » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 18:27

Carlo the Curious wrote:
Gruntwhistle wrote:- <!-- Bitmask
Just sum up the bits to make the total (or use calc to convert it to binary).

530 = 512+16+2
See told you I was thick , this is what smart is ...
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Post by ephemeron » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 18:30

Filling in some prerequisites...

I think USC Commander unlocks based on race rep rather than finishing the plot; I was at Senatorial Advisor when I finished the plot and no USC Commander, but it appeared after I reached Marshall of Mars.

Boring Boron, Pious Paranid, and Savage Split appear to unlock at Queen's Guard, Friend of Priest King, and Distinguished Associate, respectively. Anonymous Argon unlocks at least a couple of ranks earlier, but I didn't notice exactly when. Going by Gruntwhistle's discovery, that must be 10,000 rank points for the Boron, Paranid, and Split, and 333 for the Argon.

I've unlocked Tormented Teladi, but don't really know how I did. It might be trading rank (Petty Financier here -- how many points is that?).

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Post by Aetius » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 18:30

So Aldran Explorer needs Terran Plot Completed, Argon Rank 10,000 and Fight Rank 100,000 reached?

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Post by Gruntwhistle » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 18:32

That appears to be the case :)

USC = 6
Tormented Teladi =8
Poisoned Paranid =128
Goner Hoodie =64
Unholy Traitor =2052
Teladi Trafficker =8192
Lost lar =1280
Yaki =4096 ( not available atm)

If your interested.
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Post by ephemeron » Wed, 12. Nov 08, 18:36

I wonder if Terran and Argon rank are interchangeable here. It seems a bit odd for the Aldran start to be based on Argon rank, otherwise.

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