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Post by maphys » Tue, 17. Feb 09, 20:05

supakillaii wrote:So you started with Terran Defender? Odd...
Is it? Thought that Terran Defender, Argon Patriot, Humble Merchant and Bankrupt Assassin were the basic start set? I had to reinstall the game and started off on the Terran Defender start (Erin something, the old Judith avatar from X3:R?) as I had done the Argon Patriot last time.

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Post by Trezoristo » Tue, 17. Feb 09, 20:56

Ok, so I did have the specialist combat rank all along. I'm a fighter chief now, and nothing has changed :(.

I think I'll just have to flip the Combat rank bit manually then, unless people have other suggestions?

EDIT
Done, and the new gamestarts show up in my new game menu! Yeah! Next problem: how do I start the USC commander plot from my current game? This is possible right? I started a new plot to see what should set the plot of, a meeting with Samuel Plinter, but in my game the guy is nowhere to be found.

Also, a huge thanks to everyone who is writing these things down. Without these forums I would probably have given up on the game several days after I bought it :).

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Post by apricotslice » Tue, 17. Feb 09, 23:54

You need to start a new game to get the new start plot.

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Post by supakillaii » Wed, 18. Feb 09, 08:00

5 plots: Terran, Kha'ak Extermination, Hub, PHQ, Goner.
*checks how many starts* 17 starts, and all plots are accessible from all but two, the Aldran Adventurer and Custom Game.

The starts only change what you start with. And if you start with Poisoned Paranid or Tormented Teladi, you have a "Mini-plot" in the beginning

Edit: I meant odd as in odd that it isn't unlocked but forget it... I think... :/
Edit2: Yay for Patch, new version is 1.2!

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Post by Trezoristo » Wed, 18. Feb 09, 09:13

supakillaii wrote:5 plots: Terran, Kha'ak Extermination, Hub, PHQ, Goner.
*checks how many starts* 17 starts, and all plots are accessible from all but two, the Aldran Adventurer and Custom Game.

The starts only change what you start with. And if you start with Poisoned Paranid or Tormented Teladi, you have a "Mini-plot" in the beginning
Ah, so 'storyline: enables' simply means that you will be dropped into the 'standard' storyline when starting of, I finally get it, thanks.

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Post by pjknibbs » Wed, 18. Feb 09, 13:08

You won't be dropped into it, but you can do it if you want. (For non-Terran starts, this is generally done via a "bridge" mission in Omicron Lyrae).

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Post by Knetter_Gek » Fri, 20. Feb 09, 17:19

Whoops, nvr mind - I just checked and my custom game died an unseemly death and was overwritten by my Humble Merchant start :oops:
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Post by shanrak » Wed, 4. Mar 09, 02:13

I have the petty financier trader rank yet tormented teladi is still not unlocked, what am I missing? (also have Teladi Venture Capitalist, not that matters)

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Post by Carlo the Curious » Wed, 4. Mar 09, 02:17

shanrak wrote:I have the petty financier trader rank yet tormented teladi is still not unlocked, what am I missing? (also have Teladi Venture Capitalist, not that matters)
What percentage? 3,333 is a little ways into Petty Financier, I think.

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Post by shanrak » Wed, 4. Mar 09, 02:17

Carlo the Curious wrote:
shanrak wrote:I have the petty financier trader rank yet tormented teladi is still not unlocked, what am I missing? (also have Teladi Venture Capitalist, not that matters)
What percentage? 3,333 is a little ways into Petty Financier, I think.
Oh, I see that's what that meant yea I'm a few % short, thanks.

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Post by Kapakio » Sat, 7. Mar 09, 14:52

Something is wrong with the Lost Lar start. I finished the hub plot (and the HQ), I'm top rank with the borons and still not unlocked. What could be happening?

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Post by EmperorJon » Fri, 13. Mar 09, 20:51

Unholy Traitor isn't right either. I have not completed the Terran Storyline but I have it unlocked!
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Post by dtrowle » Sat, 28. Mar 09, 00:45

What exactly is the difference between the storyline enabled plots? For example, if you start as Argon Patriot you start out in Omicron Lyrae and you do the Terran escort mission to start. I started again as Tormented Teladi and after I paid the fines to get the ship, I flew to Omicron Lyrae and Heritic's end and I see nothing.

Is all the plot stories the same for all storyline enabled plots (except for the mini-mission at the start of Tormeted Teladi)? Do you just have to have a certain rank with each race before the plots spawn? Thanks.

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Post by maphys » Sat, 28. Mar 09, 02:00

What exactly is the difference between the storyline enabled plots?
Only the equipment and rank you start out with, really. The main plot missions (except the extra escort mission you mentioned) are the same for all of them.

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Post by Kapakio » Sat, 28. Mar 09, 10:41

In addition the initial relationship level with each race may be different in each start. And yes, some plots require minimun rep with certain races to be offered.

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a question...

Post by effep » Sat, 28. Mar 09, 19:58

I have a question about these alternative starts...
most of the starts have "Storyline Enabled" on them...but what storyline? does each have their own storyline? or does it mean the terran storyline?
ive started a few of them and do see that they start out with some special mission, but, other then that starting mission, are they any different in storyline than the other starts?

im assuming that each start simply has a different starting position/ship/money/relations/etc and it gives 1 or 2 missions that otherwise are not available.

but i havent gone long enough to see if the "storyline" is completely different or if you still always do the long terran mission-story-line in all start points?

i really would have a hard time believing that there are so many start points and that each has its own long storyline to it! that would be too much to play!

that being said, is the terran plotline possibly the only LONG plotline? as in continuous missions and an actual storyline that develops the universe while you progress? then the other start points are simply more or less "custom" games however with a special start, and a short mission line to start you off?

ok if im not being so clear, i dont know how else to word it, so...basically, do all start points have full long storylines or how long are they?

it makes it hard to chose which start point to play if they all have fullblown storyline and plot behind each of them...i feel then like i have to actually play them all, or at least 80% of them which are interesting. and thats just too many hours! id be playing this game for 2 more years!

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Post by Targ Collective » Sat, 28. Mar 09, 20:09

With a couple of exceptions, they all share the same storylines: HUB Plot, Goner Plot, Terran Plot, HQ Plot, Operation Final Fury plot.

There are two that start with extra plot too.

Custom starts have no plots.

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Post by effep » Sun, 29. Mar 09, 09:38

ah ya i read another thread here and found out a bit more...

but im still not 100% clear...
im assuming its like this though: that when you have the required relation/rank/whatever, you can start any plotline of any of the mission-storylines no matter which game start you chose (other than of course storyline disabled starts)...
and then the poised paranid and teladi starts each have a plotline that you can only get from doing those starts...
that about sum it up correctly?

that makes things alot clearer and more logical now...in fact thats pretty cool now that i understand it, really open ended.

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Post by maphys » Sun, 29. Mar 09, 11:21

Yup that is right.

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Post by eskeemer » Wed, 1. Apr 09, 08:30

Elucca wrote:There's a registry trick that should unlock all of them.

Don't do anything you're not sure about in the registry.

1. Go to Start -> Run -> regedit (or on Vista, just write regedit on the start menu's search bar)
2. Search for Egosoft, browse to the X3TC folder.
3. Double click on "GameStarts".
4. Change the value to fffff.

That should do it.
tried this couldn`t sort it out can some one do me a step by step don`t want to muck about in the registry too much.

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