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Is it normal that the Yaki do not appear as a «race» to me ?
they are simply blue - not in the race list (foe / friendly) and they only turn red when I scan them and find «something» wich is quite randon - eg. 2 ships with same loadout- only 1 of them turns red...
after I attack the red (yaki pirate) the rest turns red on me too...
but every time I re enter the sector , they are blue again
Yes I did finished the plot
There are also some ships I cannot enter/ comunicate to
Eg. Mercury (speed 0... nothing happening) in the sector of the Marauder
The Soul... thing ship (goner) wich has stopped moving in ore belt
and I guess there is a duplicate of it flying in and out argon prime (confuses the hell out of me)
BTW; when you get this pirate smuggler (in a TS class vessel to drop all of his freight.. AND BAIL OUT) and you get him to collect all wares in the sector (the stuff he dropped - by transporting a special comm soft. to his ship) then all of the stuff wont fit in his cargo bay becouse all upgrades are *destroyed ???*
quite lame if you ask me
thx in advance
and sorry if it was posted somewhere but I looked here and in this topic (front pages, didnt read all the replys after that)
they are simply blue - not in the race list (foe / friendly) and they only turn red when I scan them and find «something» wich is quite randon - eg. 2 ships with same loadout- only 1 of them turns red...
after I attack the red (yaki pirate) the rest turns red on me too...
but every time I re enter the sector , they are blue again
Yes I did finished the plot
There are also some ships I cannot enter/ comunicate to
Eg. Mercury (speed 0... nothing happening) in the sector of the Marauder
The Soul... thing ship (goner) wich has stopped moving in ore belt
and I guess there is a duplicate of it flying in and out argon prime (confuses the hell out of me)
BTW; when you get this pirate smuggler (in a TS class vessel to drop all of his freight.. AND BAIL OUT) and you get him to collect all wares in the sector (the stuff he dropped - by transporting a special comm soft. to his ship) then all of the stuff wont fit in his cargo bay becouse all upgrades are *destroyed ???*
quite lame if you ask me
thx in advance
and sorry if it was posted somewhere but I looked here and in this topic (front pages, didnt read all the replys after that)
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Reply put in that thread. I'm not able to reproduce that as I dont have that complicated a joystick.Mophus wrote:Well, this isn't exactly a "gameplay" bug (it's more of an interface bug), but it seems Egosoft has some problems acknowledging it (I've posted in the forum, contcted them by e-mail, other players have reproduced it, etc.).
Edit : It isnt a gameplay issue as such, and your tech support thread is the appropriate way to report it. You did get a Egosoft response pretty quickly, which surprised me. So either the problem isnt gereatable by anyone there, or its something that cannot be fixed. Be nice if they said so, but most of the time they dont.
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The submission to Tech Support is now available for final comments.
http://circleofatlantis.com/X3forum/vie ... hp?p=83#83
If there is no further comment or additions, I'll post it in tech support tomorrow.
http://circleofatlantis.com/X3forum/vie ... hp?p=83#83
If there is no further comment or additions, I'll post it in tech support tomorrow.
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And Bug 10 (Model problems) should definitely list Shark for its turrets.
Bug (related to 13): The addition of a station into complex does not preserve its name. The name resets to default.ISSUE? I did build a mine, The default name was "Silicon Mine L alpha". So were all the other too. I did rename them to contain the yield in the name. The targeting still says "Silicon Mine L alpha". That is understandable. Then I joined them into complex. Now every one of them is again "Silicon Mine L alpha". The name was not preserved.
And Bug 10 (Model problems) should definitely list Shark for its turrets.
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This is part of the overall loss of station identity when combined with a complex. Only the hub retains an in game entity.jlehtone wrote: Bug (related to 13): The addition of a station into complex does not preserve its name. The name resets to default.
I suspect this is by design.
I also suspect CBJ would class this as a "player want" rather than a bug.
Edit : What are you trying to do that needs the individual stations with individual names ?
Added. I hadnt seen anyone mention this one before.And Bug 10 (Model problems) should definitely list Shark for its turrets.
re combining stations above, in some circumstances when joining a new fab to an existing complex, the buying/selling prices get re-set to average and sometimes the jump range gets re-set to 9. This is annoying.
Oh and another bug, can the undock ship from a docked TL/M1 be addressed, either stop it happening, or allow it to work! This is if you change ships in a docked tl/m1, it causes a ctd. Not sure what happens if you order a ship in a docked tl to leave the ship though.
Oh and another bug, can the undock ship from a docked TL/M1 be addressed, either stop it happening, or allow it to work! This is if you change ships in a docked tl/m1, it causes a ctd. Not sure what happens if you order a ship in a docked tl to leave the ship though.
One was that I had recorded the yield in the name of a mine. Sure, you can recompute that from cycletime, but even that is difficult to see in a complex member. Suppose I have an incomplete loop, and want to improve it. And I have forgotten how much mineral production I already have there.apricotslice wrote:Edit : What are you trying to do that needs the individual stations with individual names ?
Some of the production variables of individual members are clearly used. Why would the "name" variable be thrown away and not used? They probably won't release the memory anyway.
Since they loose identity, I assume that they will not regain it if the hub is destroyed?
And what is the point of the " alpha" suffix on the "name" of each member of the hub in its details view?
Oh, forgot:
So there is a now an official workaround.Bonuspack 3.1.01 now includes a script that rebuilds one Tractor Beam Forge.
And another: Occasionally, killing a Xenon J/K will cause CTD. The ship may have more equipment onboard than the ship can carry. Apparently, the "death-and-drop-containers" procedure makes the space check. The equipment spawn is a bit generous. That has been on some freighters too. IIRC, people used to capture freighters with more cargo than space.
There is a corollary to this. The Xenon K. Can mount 40 GPPC. That would take 6,000 cargo units. Xenon K has only 5,000. That is ok as player ship, but I would like to face NPC K's with full selection of guns. Because if I do now, the NPC cheats and I face the danger of CTD.
CTD cannot be a design feature, can it? Sorry for being slow to remember, it has been a while I had one, but it was 1.4.03.
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Re-complexes, Would it also be possible to specify a particular product(s) as the primary output. In some cases i have compexes where all of the goods are classified as intermediate, but i only want one of the goods to be tradable to npc/ut's etc. It would be nice if you could specify which intermediate goods can/cannot be traded at an individual level. ok this is not a bug but an enhancement.
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Thought as muchapricotslice wrote:Yes it is.apogee wrote: ok this is not a bug but an enhancement.
Unfortunately, enhancements have to be presented through Devnet, under the rules of that forum.
Though the following is, can something be done about the logic used to build the tubing linking complexes/fabs together. I linked 2 Silicon mines together and one of the tubes spears right through the asteroid one of the mines is sitting on, it should go round. I have other instances of tubes "passing through" stations, i think collision detect on tubes/stations must be de-activated as they never seem to be a problem. But it does look bad.
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The trouble is, if you add more stations, the tubing will move too.apogee wrote:Though the following is, can something be done about the logic used to build the tubing linking complexes/fabs together. I linked 2 Silicon mines together and one of the tubes spears right through the asteroid one of the mines is sitting on, it should go round. I have other instances of tubes "passing through" stations, i think collision detect on tubes/stations must be de-activated as they never seem to be a problem. But it does look bad.
Personally I think the tubing should be removed altogether. Somewhere back in time I put up a proposal for changing complexes to remove the randomness of the tubing, and make them properly modular, so all tubing was primarily straight and ran like a backbone down the middle of 2 rows of stations. In effect, the player would say add station to complex, and the AI would attach it to the next logical module position, adding the tubes as needed. Result is a nice compact complex with minimal tubing.
But the purists will prefer to place themselves, and that is what Egosoft went with when they designed the whole thing, previous game players who wanted to join factories themselves, in their own way. So that is what was designed, and most people ahve spagetti complexes as a result.
Not sure where that thread is now, I didnt keep track of them back then.
@apricotslice, yes when i first saw the NPC production facilities, like light shield fabs etc, i thought why cant we have something like that, and expanded so a single fab contained all the components (as you say modules) to fully replace the current complex construction idea.
On another note, why does the first hub have to point north??? why cant i place it and give it a direction i want! aaargh
On another note, why does the first hub have to point north??? why cant i place it and give it a direction i want! aaargh
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Please Add
1. Missile engine glow
to the list of things to fix.
Problem: When shooting missiles there is no engine glow or trail (that glows). This makes it extremely difficult to see the missiles. I personally find this a game stopper in combat situations. I have died so many times from running into my own missiles or having them shot when they are next to my ship because I can't see where the stinking things are.
There is a trail of smoke that follows behind them but you can't see it in dark sectors.
If this would be fixed so you can actually see where the stinkin things are after fire'n them I'd go back to using them.
Thanks
1. Missile engine glow
to the list of things to fix.
Problem: When shooting missiles there is no engine glow or trail (that glows). This makes it extremely difficult to see the missiles. I personally find this a game stopper in combat situations. I have died so many times from running into my own missiles or having them shot when they are next to my ship because I can't see where the stinking things are.
There is a trail of smoke that follows behind them but you can't see it in dark sectors.
If this would be fixed so you can actually see where the stinkin things are after fire'n them I'd go back to using them.
Thanks
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This would also be considered a change for devnet I think.lazerath wrote:1. Missile engine glow
Personally I would like to see the missiles shown in a different colour on the radar display, so you can easily pick them out.
Its one of the reasons I go for heavy shielding and turrents, being unable to pick up missiles to shoot them myself.
As for the being blown up by your own missiles thing, thats a recent feature thats been added, so I doubt they will modify it. You just ahve to be more careful about when you fire your own missiles, which missile you choose etc.
Well I had an interesting experiment yesterday... I fired 5 or so Hammerheads at an asteroid from my Dragon while stationary, I shot down my own Hammerheads while they were at different ranges from my ship (0-1km) and none of them blew me up or even damaged my shields.apricotslice wrote: As for the being blown up by your own missiles thing, thats a recent feature thats been added, so I doubt they will modify it. You just ahve to be more careful about when you fire your own missiles, which missile you choose etc.