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Posted: Sat, 3. Dec 05, 16:33
by Geggo
Well I didnt tell the location now did I, just a name. :)

But that sector is a good example of a good training sector since it has full scale food production and consumption line times 2. and that sector seems to run pretty well from energy point of view.

Posted: Fri, 13. Jan 06, 17:04
by ggvw
Does anyone know if it is possible to transport a M4 sector trader pilot to a TS freighter? I tried X-it/Bigbadorcas method but it did not work for me. Everything except the pilots level is transferred. Could it be because the M4 does not already have the trade MK1 built-in?
Someone also said that if you assign a homebase then they will try to fly home if they get stuck for ecells - .
Does anyone know if that's true?

Posted: Fri, 13. Jan 06, 17:52
by PabloRSA
You said you dont need weapons on your ST/UT's i believe that a weapon would be an advantage if you have a rear turrent as you can direct it to protect the ships so if pirates or other enemies fire missles.

The guide seems good for noobs but i think you should add advantages and disadvantages for adding diffrent type of ware.

For example scanner, UT dosnt need it but if you dont have a sat nav in the system then the enhanced scanner can pickup new stations that have been built by the race since you last visted the sector.

Also the jumpdrive shouldnt be in the not needed list maybe make a sub needed list, that it would require xxx at this level but make it clear it dont need it before that level.

Just my thoughts.

Posted: Fri, 13. Jan 06, 19:25
by FyreByrd
@PabloRSA:

Thanks for your feedback...here's my response....

Yes you can use a rear turret to help defend at st/ut but in my experience esepically since 1.3 (remember this guide hasn't been updated to 1.3 yet it is still based on 1.2.1!) that if you run into a mjor group of pirates your st/ut is a dead man walking...i equip with the bare essentials realising i will lose a few traders so i can replace them as cheap as possible...You can go the line of tooling them to the max and giving them escorts and so on...but for me st/ut's fund my operation...my operation doesn't fund them!

I hoped i had made the jumpdrive clear enough it is NOT needed but if you don't buy it it will cost you more when it is bought by the trader...same as cargo/speed/rudder upgrades

Finally scanner...

in 1.2.1 there was no evidence of new stations being built therefore there was no need for a scanner...in my testing (honest i will update the guide soon guys!) on 1.3 i still don't see a big enough profit increase when using a triplex scanner to using no scanner...and as triplex's are only available in certain places and you have to have good rep with certain races to me it is still an UNESSENTIAl luxury...it may be usuful but it isn't needed and as far as i see it doesn't increase your profit margins a huge amount if you do use it/

Hope this helps

Cheers

FyreByrd

Posted: Fri, 13. Jan 06, 19:26
by FyreByrd
@PabloRSA:

Thanks for your feedback...here's my response....

Yes you can use a rear turret to help defend at st/ut but in my experience esepically since 1.3 (remember this guide hasn't been updated to 1.3 yet it is still based on 1.2.1!) that if you run into a mjor group of pirates your st/ut is a dead man walking...i equip with the bare essentials realising i will lose a few traders so i can replace them as cheap as possible...You can go the line of tooling them to the max and giving them escorts and so on...but for me st/ut's fund my operation...my operation doesn't fund them!

I hoped i had made the jumpdrive clear enough it is NOT needed but if you don't buy it it will cost you more when it is bought by the trader...same as cargo/speed/rudder upgrades

Finally scanner...

in 1.2.1 there was no evidence of new stations being built therefore there was no need for a scanner...in my testing (honest i will update the guide soon guys!) on 1.3 i still don't see a big enough profit increase when using a triplex scanner to using no scanner...and as triplex's are only available in certain places and you have to have good rep with certain races to me it is still an UNESSENTIAl luxury...it may be usuful but it isn't needed and as far as i see it doesn't increase your profit margins a huge amount if you do use it/

Hope this helps

Cheers

FyreByrd

P.s. @ggvw
I've very rarely messed around with m4 st/ut's so haven't tested it with pilot moving will add it into my test list for the updated guide

Posted: Fri, 13. Jan 06, 19:50
by X-it
ggvw wrote:Does anyone know if it is possible to transport a M4 sector trader pilot to a TS freighter? I tried X-it/Bigbadorcas method but it did not work for me. Everything except the pilots level is transferred. Could it be because the M4 does not already have the trade MK1 built-in?
I didn't think trading pilots could be transfered into an M4? How did you get him into that in the first place? And he's now stuck in there, poor guy?

Posted: Thu, 26. Jan 06, 14:33
by stallion
Does anyone have a list of the ranks for sector/universe traders. Also do higher ranks give ur UT an advantage?

BTW whats the highest rank your UT can go to?

Posted: Thu, 26. Jan 06, 15:30
by X-it
Yes, higher ranks means smarter pilots! :) They make better deals.

Max rank is 25. They are sector traders from level 1-7. At level 8 you can set them to universe traders. They will trade in surrounding sectors. At level 12 they will start using the jumpdrive, if they have one. From then on they reach level 25 in no time...

Posted: Thu, 9. Feb 06, 15:16
by Darklight86
This is great, I was just thinking to myself - I need to use sector traders to get higher rep boosts - but didn't know the first thing about them, I thought it was a longshot to find anything with any useful info on sector traders, but look! An entire guide dedicated to them!

Nice One. :D

Posted: Fri, 10. Feb 06, 21:51
by FyreByrd
Hey Guys,

Just to let you know the promised update to v1.3 of the sector/universe trader guide is now indefinatly on-hold, just don't have the time to play x3 at the mo let alone test everything for traders, but there are a couple of other good guides out there so check them or pm me if you're really stuck and i'll answer if i can.

Cheers

FyreByrd

hi

Posted: Mon, 17. Jul 06, 12:49
by hova
Ive got mercurys large and small and ive equipped everything uve said and they are lvl 10 and the universe trader is still not highlighted

Posted: Fri, 16. Mar 07, 05:21
by yanqi
thanks a lot

Posted: Fri, 20. Apr 07, 14:42
by Draygor69
You have just made a headache of mine - sector to universe trader go away, thanks so much

awesome

Posted: Sun, 1. Jul 07, 02:03
by sickforska
this is a great help to anyone starting out, thanks

Posted: Sun, 1. Jul 07, 12:45
by stonyclaws
FyreByrd wrote:Although i'm still going on my already admitted dodgy ship information but....

the express,manta,iguana, and toucan all have "S" restrictions so they won't mount a jumpdrive. but all the rest have "L" restrictions so they can - my utility ship is an Iguana Vanguard (I'm sure you know the one!) which is dead useful to resupply with - and i have another capped one that I tested the tp sector trading stuff on. and once he's up to the grade I'll check the uni trader stuff with him too!

Cheers

FyreByrd
My Iguana resupply fleet all have Jumpdrives! And they use them too!