6.00 beta 7 vanilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale) - Devs aware.
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6.00 beta 7 vanilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale) - Devs aware.
I don’t know if it’s a bug or a peculiarity of my game (born with the 6.0 beta 1)
They are more than 2 days of play and I have not yet found a greater base of pirates (those identified by the 2 cross sabers)...
in over 2,500 hours of play had never happened to me... I tried to search in the areas where they usually can be found (Heretic’s End, Silent Witness XI or XII...) but there are not.. even at "Hewa’s Twin iv - The Bay" where there is usually a pirate workshop... the xenons in this game are quite quiet and these I do not think it was them... also because no race had to endure big assaults....
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They are more than 2 days of play and I have not yet found a greater base of pirates (those identified by the 2 cross sabers)...
in over 2,500 hours of play had never happened to me... I tried to search in the areas where they usually can be found (Heretic’s End, Silent Witness XI or XII...) but there are not.. even at "Hewa’s Twin iv - The Bay" where there is usually a pirate workshop... the xenons in this game are quite quiet and these I do not think it was them... also because no race had to endure big assaults....
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Re: 6.00 beta 7 valilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale - I do not remember in English wh
I forgot to specify that instead the bases with the double sabers of HAT and BUC instead there are...
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Re: 6.00 beta 7 valilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale - I do not remember in English wh
SCA don't have Pirate Bases like HAT, nor Lost Property Offices like BUC, but they do have a couple of SCA Wharves hidden away.
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Re: 6.00 beta 7 valilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale - I do not remember in English wh
Update... I found the workshop at Hewa’s Twin ... it was very far from the center of the sector, with the explorer command had not reached it and too far to be detected with the sdcansione... I found it "on sight"...
or maybe you mean they removed it with Beta 6.0???
How many SCA did not have bases with the Cross Sabers??? they had them... they also have hidden workshops (I only knew of that of Hewa’s Twins, not a second... I discover it only now thanks to you)...Alan Phipps wrote: ↑Fri, 24. Mar 23, 17:58SCA don't have Pirate Bases like HAT, nor Lost Property Offices like BUC, but they do have a couple of SCA Wharves hidden away.
or maybe you mean they removed it with Beta 6.0???
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Re: 6.00 beta 7 valilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale - I do not remember in English wh
Nope, they're still there in the beta.
Re: 6.00 beta 7 valilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale - I do not remember in English wh
SCA has bases, i have discovered one next door in my universe so far:
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Re: 6.00 beta 7 vanilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale).
Grand Exchange III is another area where often there are bases of SCA... but in my game nothing.... for that I thought of a BUG...
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Re: 6.00 beta 7 vanilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale).
The station sites are probably determined by the randomised seed at game start. If you are finding a couple of SCA main stations somewhere then I don't think there is any bug.
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Re: 6.00 beta 7 vanilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale).
In fact, as I wrote above, I’m not sure it’s a bug... the thing that puzzles me is that with 2500 hours of play behind is at least a 30 of games made, I had never happened to NOT find SCA bases.Alan Phipps wrote: ↑Sat, 25. Mar 23, 11:01The station sites are probably determined by the randomised seed at game start. If you are finding a couple of SCA main stations somewhere then I don't think there is any bug.
if the dev can take a look with their tools to see if these bases exist, maybe far from the center of the sectors, better... if it is a bug maybe the reporting will be useful.
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Re: 6.00 beta 7 vanilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale).
You can do this yourself, if you want. Unpack a savegame and open the .xml in an editor. Search for "station_gen_piratebase" If you find a line that also has a code (eg code="HRU-793") then that base exists in your universe, the line will also say which faction owns the station.alessandrofavero wrote: ↑Sat, 25. Mar 23, 19:07if the dev can take a look with their tools to see if these bases exist
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Re: 6.00 beta 7 vanilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale).
Thanks for the suggestion...Katorone wrote: ↑Sat, 25. Mar 23, 21:36You can do this yourself, if you want. Unpack a savegame and open the .xml in an editor. Search for "station_gen_piratebase" If you find a line that also has a code (eg code="HRU-793") then that base exists in your universe, the line will also say which faction owns the station.alessandrofavero wrote: ↑Sat, 25. Mar 23, 19:07if the dev can take a look with their tools to see if these bases exist
I found several but they are all with "owner" HAT or BUC, except for one SCA (but from the code I understood to be the workshop at Hewa’s Twins IV). I also found them all in the game except 3 BUC I still have to find out...
actually there are no SCA bases in my universe... so I think it’s a BUG...
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Re: 6.00 beta 7 vanilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale).
Occasionally commonwealth factions do attack and destroy SCA stations. Could be this happened in your universe? Some stations should pop up in Silent Witness XII and Nopileos' Fortune II.
As a sidenote, if you want to let SCA thrive, it's best to not claim those sectors for yourself. Otherwise the commonwealth factions you're allied with will send fleets to protect those sectors, and destroy any SCA station they find.
As a sidenote, if you want to let SCA thrive, it's best to not claim those sectors for yourself. Otherwise the commonwealth factions you're allied with will send fleets to protect those sectors, and destroy any SCA station they find.
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Re: 6.00 beta 7 vanilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale).
The more important stations such as Wharves and Pirate Bases etc would respawn elsewhere if destroyed though.
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Re: 6.00 beta 7 vanilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale).
Right, I can also do a further test... I spend at least 5 hours playing and I try to review in the fil. XML if they reappear somewhere...Alan Phipps wrote: ↑Sun, 26. Mar 23, 09:43The more important stations such as Wharves and Pirate Bases etc would respawn elsewhere if destroyed though.
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Re: 6.00 beta 7 vanilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale).
OK... by default there is one SCA Pirate Base in Grand Exchange III and one in Silent Witness XII, besides the main Base in Hewas Twin.
The one in Grand Exchange is frequently destroyed by MIN/TEL forces, the one in Silent Witness by Khaak but more rarely. The main Base in Hewas Twin is not "threatened" immediately, unless the Xenon overtake the Hewas sectors (never seen this happen since V4.00 and CoH)...
So far, 9,000 hours in the game and over 100 gamestarts, I have not seen any of them respawn. I don't say they don't but SCA, in general, has big trouble to get Stations going as only TEL will supply them with wares and builders, plus the tiny amounts they can steal.
The one in Grand Exchange is frequently destroyed by MIN/TEL forces, the one in Silent Witness by Khaak but more rarely. The main Base in Hewas Twin is not "threatened" immediately, unless the Xenon overtake the Hewas sectors (never seen this happen since V4.00 and CoH)...
So far, 9,000 hours in the game and over 100 gamestarts, I have not seen any of them respawn. I don't say they don't but SCA, in general, has big trouble to get Stations going as only TEL will supply them with wares and builders, plus the tiny amounts they can steal.
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Re: 6.00 beta 7 vanilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale).
So you’re thinking there might have been but they were destroyed in the game?dtpsprt wrote: ↑Sun, 26. Mar 23, 09:57OK... by default there is one SCA Pirate Base in Grand Exchange III and one in Silent Witness XII, besides the main Base in Hewas Twin.
The one in Grand Exchange is frequently destroyed by MIN/TEL forces, the one in Silent Witness by Khaak but more rarely. The main Base in Hewas Twin is not "threatened" immediately, unless the Xenon overtake the Hewas sectors (never seen this happen since V4.00 and CoH)...
So far, 9,000 hours in the game and over 100 gamestarts, I have not seen any of them respawn. I don't say they don't but SCA, in general, has big trouble to get Stations going as only TEL will supply them with wares and builders, plus the tiny amounts they can steal.
I can’t rule it out, especially for Grand Exchange III...
Is there any way to verify that?
I’ve never been...
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Re: 6.00 beta 7 vanilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale).
This is my "educated" guess. I know of these SCA bases and use them for my purposes regularly.alessandrofavero wrote: ↑Mon, 27. Mar 23, 00:23.......
So you’re thinking there might have been but they were destroyed in the game?
I can’t rule it out, especially for Grand Exchange III...
Is there any way to verify that?
I’ve never been...
Way to verify if you have not seen them in your map? I suppose somewhere in that enormous save file that actually describes the whole X Universe there is this information if one is patient enough to "dig it out".
In general the Universe we play on is generated by a seed but after generation it follows a "logical course" of cause and effect. Every single item of the Universe is monitored and recorded in the save file. This is also one of the reasons devs ask for these save files when submitting a bug.
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Re: 6.00 beta 7 vanilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale).
I guess then that I give up... I’m not so much into programming to be able to drill on a file. xml 730 Mb...
I had also thought about the possibility that they were ALL destroyed (even in Hereticìs End there is often a pirate base, if I’m not mistaken) but it seemed / seems unlikely...
thank you all, anyway
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Re: 6.00 beta 7 vanilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale).
The one in Heretic's End belongs to Hatikvah, so it's named "Freedom Port", nobody will destroy it unless a Xenon K or I comes close. If there is an SCA Pirate Base there it was spawned because one of the others is destroyed.alessandrofavero wrote: ↑Mon, 27. Mar 23, 20:26I guess then that I give up... I’m not so much into programming to be able to drill on a file. xml 730 Mb...
I had also thought about the possibility that they were ALL destroyed (even in Hereticìs End there is often a pirate base, if I’m not mistaken) but it seemed / seems unlikely...
thank you all, anyway
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Re: 6.00 beta 7 vanilla - there are no main bases of the PDC (the pirates of the scale).
Upon a dev investigation, it appears that SCA main bases are perhaps not set to respawn if destroyed, even though that was the initial intention. This was probably not even a new issue in the betas. There will now be some further checking and then any necessary adjustments may be made in a future version.
@ alessandrofavero: Well spotted!
@ alessandrofavero: Well spotted!
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