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Best S & M ships

Post by foxxbl » Sat, 1. Dec 18, 20:48

So far, it looks by looking at encyclopedia, after exploring the universe 1 day, it looks that the best purchasable ships have Paranids (of course) :)
S class figher - Pegasus Vanguard and M class frigate - Gorgon Vanguard..
of course there is Argon S class heavy fighter Eclipse Vanguard but it is slow by specs almost 50% in speed and acceleration compared to the Pegasus Vanguard, while it has 2x better shields..
What are your findings so far?
I just bought Pegasus Vanguard and it looks very nice ;) Saving money and raising rep with Paranids to get Gorgon Vanguard asap.

From shipyards, I discovered so far Argon Wharfs (ANT, ARG), Teladi Wharfs (MIN & TEL) , Paranid Wharfs (HOP & PAR).
Any other Wharfs accessible to player? Does Argon HAT or Paranid ALI having Wharfs? Found Paranid ALI Shipyard, not wharf..
So much exploration left..
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Re: Best S & M ships

Post by euclid » Sat, 1. Dec 18, 21:50

Hi foxxbl :-)

For S class ships:
Nodan for max speed, 900+ m/s but only 2 weapons.
Pulsar for max firepower, 6 weapons, if you configure them 3,3,... then you can fire continuously by circling through the configurations.

For M class ships;
Osprey for the best turret distribution, switch them all on attack and visit a Xenon system :D
Nemesis for max front (manual) weapons, disadvantage: no S dock.

Cheers Euclid
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Re: Best S & M ships

Post by foxxbl » Sat, 1. Dec 18, 22:59

euclid wrote:
Sat, 1. Dec 18, 21:50
For S class ships:
Nodan for max speed, 900+ m/s but only 2 weapons.
Pulsar for max firepower, 6 weapons, if you configure them 3,3,... then you can fire continuously by circling through the configurations.

For M class ships;
Osprey for the best turret distribution, switch them all on attack and visit a Xenon system :D
Nemesis for max front (manual) weapons, disadvantage: no S dock.
Thanks Euclid, I will search for Nodan, I don't have access to it yet ;) Looks like a great exploration ship.. Pulsar looks powerful and slow.. Thanks for the hints!

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Re: Best S & M ships

Post by Baconnaise » Sun, 2. Dec 18, 01:28

I'm not sure how you get the Nodan but the Paranid Scout is pretty baller at over 500m/s.

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Re: Best S & M ships

Post by photoncody » Sun, 2. Dec 18, 02:49

Hey Euclid, how do you find said ships? I can't find them and I've checked all of my known shipyards/wharfs.

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Re: Best S & M ships

Post by Tadas » Sun, 2. Dec 18, 03:10

euclid wrote:
Sat, 1. Dec 18, 21:50
Hi foxxbl :-)

For S class ships:
Nodan for max speed, 900+ m/s but only 2 weapons.
Pulsar for max firepower, 6 weapons, if you configure them 3,3,... then you can fire continuously by circling through the configurations.

For M class ships;
Osprey for the best turret distribution, switch them all on attack and visit a Xenon system :D
Nemesis for max front (manual) weapons, disadvantage: no S dock.

Cheers Euclid
Sound amazing, where could I find such beasts of a ships :)

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Re: Best S & M ships

Post by foxxbl » Sun, 2. Dec 18, 04:08

Tadas wrote:
Sun, 2. Dec 18, 03:10
Sound amazing, where could I find such beasts of a ships :)
I can't find Nodan and Pulsar..
Pulsar is probably sold by 3rd Paranid sect. ALI (Alliance of the World), but i still haven't found their wharf.

M class ships Euclid mentioned:
Osprey Vanguard - TEL - Teladi Company - Profit Center Alpha
Osprey Sentinel - MIN - Ministry of Finance - Eighteen Billion
Nemesis Vanguard - PAR - Godrealm of the Paranid - Trinity Sanctum
Nemesis Sentinel - HOP - Holy Order of the Pontifex - Holy vision

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Re: Best S & M ships

Post by euclid » Sun, 2. Dec 18, 04:15

foxxbl wrote:
Sun, 2. Dec 18, 04:08
....
I can't find Nodan and Pulsar..
Pulsar is probably sold by 3rd Paranid sect. ALI (Alliance of the World), but i still haven't found their wharf.
....
Not bad :-)

but since this is the spoiler forum ... find Trinity Sanctum and go from there into an adjacent system with the same name but with an "VII" addon ;-)

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Re: Best S & M ships

Post by photoncody » Sun, 2. Dec 18, 04:52

euclid wrote:
Sun, 2. Dec 18, 04:15
foxxbl wrote:
Sun, 2. Dec 18, 04:08
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I can't find Nodan and Pulsar..
Pulsar is probably sold by 3rd Paranid sect. ALI (Alliance of the World), but i still haven't found their wharf.
....
Not bad :-)

but since this is the spoiler forum ... find Trinity Sanctum and go from there into an adjacent system with the same name but with an "VII" addon ;-)

Cheers Euclid
Found the Nodan! Still no Pulsar though unfortunately :(

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Re: Best S & M ships

Post by Munimentum » Sun, 2. Dec 18, 14:10

euclid wrote:
Sat, 1. Dec 18, 21:50
Hi foxxbl :-)

For S class ships:
Nodan for max speed, 900+ m/s but only 2 weapons.
Pulsar for max firepower, 6 weapons, if you configure them 3,3,... then you can fire continuously by circling through the configurations.

For M class ships;
Osprey for the best turret distribution, switch them all on attack and visit a Xenon system :D
Nemesis for max front (manual) weapons, disadvantage: no S dock.

Cheers Euclid
Which Nodan model has the 900m/s speed? I'm at the Wharf in Trinity VII but the fastest Nodan there is the Vanguard which is 405 max.

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Re: Best S & M ships

Post by Wou » Sun, 2. Dec 18, 14:33

I think the Pulsar is sold by the Antigone Republic?
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Re: Best S & M ships

Post by foxxbl » Sun, 2. Dec 18, 15:09

Wou wrote:
Sun, 2. Dec 18, 14:33
I think the Pulsar is sold by the Antigone Republic?
That is correct, I found it later.. Pulsar Vanguard, sold by ARG Antigone Republic Wharf in Antigone Memorial, ugly slow and mighty :)

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Re: Best S & M ships

Post by Wou » Sun, 2. Dec 18, 17:54

Is it really that "mighty"?
4 guns are cool, but the hull strength is rather worrying.
Eclipse Vanguard from Argon prime has 4 weapon slots as well but more than twice the hull
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Re: Best S & M ships

Post by mr.WHO » Sun, 2. Dec 18, 19:05

Pulsar has 6 weapon mount, but low hull, so it's kinda glass cannon.
I'm more keen on Eclipse - 4 weapon mount, great hull and shields and look badass.

P.S. Where do I find ALI faction and their shipyard?

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Re: Best S & M ships

Post by Baconnaise » Sun, 2. Dec 18, 23:41

Personally I like the Paranid Gorgon as it has a great mix of speed hull and firepower. It's an M class but flies like a heavy fighter or scout.

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Re: Best S & M ships

Post by foxxbl » Mon, 3. Dec 18, 01:24

mr.WHO wrote:
Sun, 2. Dec 18, 19:05
P.S. Where do I find ALI faction and their shipyard?
Trinity Sanctum VII as Euclid wrote few posts up, NW of the gate..
The interesting thing about that ALI Wharf is (unless it is standard in all wharfs and I haven't noticed it), that it gives me to modify the current ship with all faction modifications (Argon, Teladi, Paranid).
Also it sells S fighters from all races.. Argon, Teladi and Paranid ;)
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Re: Best S & M ships

Post by foxxbl » Mon, 3. Dec 18, 01:29

Munimentum wrote:
Sun, 2. Dec 18, 14:10
euclid wrote:
Sat, 1. Dec 18, 21:50
Hi foxxbl :-)

For S class ships:
Nodan for max speed, 900+ m/s but only 2 weapons.
Pulsar for max firepower, 6 weapons, if you configure them 3,3,... then you can fire continuously by circling through the configurations.

For M class ships;
Osprey for the best turret distribution, switch them all on attack and visit a Xenon system :D
Nemesis for max front (manual) weapons, disadvantage: no S dock.

Cheers Euclid
Which Nodan model has the 900m/s speed? I'm at the Wharf in Trinity VII but the fastest Nodan there is the Vanguard which is 405 max.
Correct, Nodan has not 900+ speed in my game also.
For now, Paranid Pegasus Vanguard is still the fastest S ship with 532m/s.

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Re: Best S & M ships

Post by foxxbl » Mon, 3. Dec 18, 01:38

Wou wrote:
Sun, 2. Dec 18, 17:54
Is it really that "mighty"?
4 guns are cool, but the hull strength is rather worrying.
Eclipse Vanguard from Argon prime has 4 weapon slots as well but more than twice the hull
To correct you, Pulsar has 6 gun mounts..
But yeah, you are correct, Eclipse Vanguard looks like a better (maybe best) Heavy Fighter, it has twice the hull and twice the shields (2 shield generators), and 4 gun mounts...

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Re: Best S & M ships

Post by euclid » Mon, 3. Dec 18, 02:34

foxxbl wrote:
Mon, 3. Dec 18, 01:29
Munimentum wrote:
Sun, 2. Dec 18, 14:10
euclid wrote:
Sat, 1. Dec 18, 21:50
Hi foxxbl :-)

For S class ships:
Nodan for max speed, 900+ m/s but only 2 weapons.
Pulsar for max firepower, 6 weapons, if you configure them 3,3,... then you can fire continuously by circling through the configurations.

For M class ships;
Osprey for the best turret distribution, switch them all on attack and visit a Xenon system :D
Nemesis for max front (manual) weapons, disadvantage: no S dock.

Cheers Euclid
Which Nodan model has the 900m/s speed? I'm at the Wharf in Trinity VII but the fastest Nodan there is the Vanguard which is 405 max.
Correct, Nodan has not 900+ speed in my game also.
For now, Paranid Pegasus Vanguard is still the fastest S ship with 532m/s.
Aye, it was re-balanced. Max speed is now Pegasus. Sorry for the confusion.

Cheers Euclid
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Re: Best S & M ships

Post by mr.WHO » Mon, 3. Dec 18, 17:43

foxxbl wrote:
Mon, 3. Dec 18, 01:24
mr.WHO wrote:
Sun, 2. Dec 18, 19:05
P.S. Where do I find ALI faction and their shipyard?
Trinity Sanctum VII as Euclid wrote few posts up, NW of the gate..
The interesting thing about that ALI Wharf is (unless it is standard in all wharfs and I haven't noticed it), that it gives me to modify the current ship with all faction modifications (Argon, Teladi, Paranid).
Also it sells S fighters from all races.. Argon, Teladi and Paranid ;)

Where is the ALI Wharf I only found ALI Shipyards which only sell Mammoth/construction ship.

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