List of ship mod attributes?

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List of ship mod attributes?

Post by Lazerius » Sun, 28. Apr 19, 20:23

I know some months ago, somebody posted a list of what all of the attributes that can appear on ship mods actually do from their personal testing. I can't seem to find that post (nor am I sure if it was here, Reddit, or Steam), but I was wondering if the devs (or even any modders well versed with the related code) have documented this information for the community.

For instance, Ship Mass: -9% to -23%

One could ASSUME that if you reduce a ship's mass, it reduced the amount of time required to come to a full stop, and impacts how quickly a ship could turn. However, assumptions make jackasses of us all, especially since I remember reading in that post with how things were worded on weapons, many of the attributes actually did the exact opposite you would expect the bonus to be.


Therefore, I'd love to see some formal documentation, or just a confirmed list of what each item does.


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Re: List of ship mod attributes?

Post by Lazerius » Mon, 29. Apr 19, 20:04

Since I didn't hear anything back, I put together a spreadsheet with descriptions of all of my current 'not applied' mods using best guess. Unfortunately, since I can't seem to share a spreadsheet online without making my account name known (Google/Google Apps), or without my company name known (Office 365/sharepoint/one drive), I just posted the text.

Curious if some of you have have any insight on the ones with the ???


Mod Type Description

Hull
Countermeasure Capacity ------- Increase Capacity of Countermeasures
Deployable Capactity Mod ------- Increase Capacity of Deployables (Satelites, Laser Towers, Mines, etc)
Ship Drag ------- Reduce Ship Drag??
Ship Mass mod ------- Reduce Ship Mass??
Max Hull ------- Increase total Hull (HP)
Missile Capacity Mod ------- Increase Missile Capacity
Radar Range Mod ------- Increased Range of a Ship's Radar
Unit Capacity Mod ------- Can carry more marines/service crew ??

Engines
Boost Duration ------- Rate at which boost drains shield is reduced??
Boost Thrust ------- Go faster when boosting
Forward Thrust ------- Increase top end standard speed
Rotation Thrust ------- Ship turns sharper
Strafe Thrust ------- Ship Strafes faster
Travel Attack Time ------- Reduce delay after being attacked before you can charge travel drive again??
Travel Charge Time ------- Can enter travel mode faster
Travel Release Time ------- No Idea???
Travel Start Thrust ------- Approach top Travel Mode faster??
Travel Thrust ------- Increase top end travel speed


Shields
Capacity Mod ------- Shield holds more juice
Recharge Delay Mod ------- Reduces the delay before a ship begins recharging its shields (Only applies to S and M ships now?)
Recharge Rate Mod ------- Increases the amount of shield recharged per second



Weapons
Weapon Damage ------- Flat Damage Increase
Weapon Cooling ------- Reduce heat buildup
Weapon Reload ------- Rate at which a weapon's clip is exhausted (Fire Speed) ??
Weapon Sticky Projectile Time ------- No Clue. Maybe how well a missile tracks ???
Weapon Rotation Speed ------- Speed at which a turret Rotates??
Weapon Charge Time ------- Amount of time before a weapon can fire again Primarily impacts missiles ???
Weapon Projectile Lifetime ------- Amount of time before a missile explodes, or a shot disapates into nothing?
Weapon Projectile Speed ------- Speed at which a projectile moves (Useful for Missiles and Plasma)
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Re: List of ship mod attributes?

Post by Jonnyx » Mon, 29. Apr 19, 22:56

Ship Drag ------- Reduce Ship Drag??
Ship Mass mod ------- Reduce Ship Mass??

These both increase forward thrust speed - making the ship lighter and more streamlined

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Re: List of ship mod attributes?

Post by Lazerius » Tue, 30. Apr 19, 00:08

Jonnyx wrote:
Mon, 29. Apr 19, 22:56
Ship Drag ------- Reduce Ship Drag??
Ship Mass mod ------- Reduce Ship Mass??

These both increase forward thrust speed - making the ship lighter and more streamlined
That's all that do? No impact on turning, slowing down when coming to a full stop, etc?
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Re: List of ship mod attributes?

Post by burger1 » Tue, 30. Apr 19, 00:43

Lazerius wrote:
Tue, 30. Apr 19, 00:08
Jonnyx wrote:
Mon, 29. Apr 19, 22:56
Ship Drag ------- Reduce Ship Drag??
Ship Mass mod ------- Reduce Ship Mass??

These both increase forward thrust speed - making the ship lighter and more streamlined
That's all that do? No impact on turning, slowing down when coming to a full stop, etc?
Apply the mod and some of the ship attributes should change in the mod screen. Green is positive red is negative. Acceleration might effect travel mode stopping starting speeds or maybe not?

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Re: List of ship mod attributes?

Post by Jonnyx » Tue, 30. Apr 19, 08:48

Lazerius wrote:
Tue, 30. Apr 19, 00:08
Jonnyx wrote:
Mon, 29. Apr 19, 22:56
Ship Drag ------- Reduce Ship Drag??
Ship Mass mod ------- Reduce Ship Mass??

These both increase forward thrust speed - making the ship lighter and more streamlined
That's all that do? No impact on turning, slowing down when coming to a full stop, etc?

My nemesis, with forward thrust and mass reduction now has a top speed of 750m/s, Ive not noticed it turn any quicker because of the mass reduction but compared to my unmodified nemesis it does appear to accelerate to max faster.

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Re: List of ship mod attributes?

Post by Dirk-Jan » Tue, 30. Apr 19, 10:57

Hyperion
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Now that was a ship worth having!
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Re: List of ship mod attributes?

Post by Lazerius » Tue, 30. Apr 19, 16:02

Dirk-Jan wrote:
Tue, 30. Apr 19, 10:57
Hyperion
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Now that was a ship worth having!
Best ship in the series! :D

In my main vanilla game, I have an Aran full of 30 I 'liberated' from the Paranid Military (Easy way to train boarding), and I had 15+ patrols produced from PHQ of 5 HV + 2 Nova Raiders for each one patrolling sectors I wanted to keep safe for my traders.

Of course, nothing beats my ~387ish speed Poisoned Paranid HV, loaded with 2 flame throwers and the rest ISRs. Tears through absolutely everything! :-D

Anyways, off topic. :lol:
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Re: List of ship mod attributes?

Post by Lazerius » Tue, 30. Apr 19, 21:16

Another interesting post I found involving Drag and Mass:


According to this: https://steamcommunity.com/app/392160/d ... 996322974/

Mass reduction improves acceleration.

Drag reduction improves top speed as well was pitch yaw and roll (makes the ship more maneuverable).

Both together make for a generally faster and more agile ship. The effect is cumulative with engine mods.

If that's accurate, It looks like some good things to know regarding modding ships. Any chance a dev can confirm that?
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Re: List of ship mod attributes?

Post by burger1 » Wed, 1. May 19, 06:04

Drag mod does top speed, boost speed, travel speed, yaw, pitch and roll but not acceleration.

Mass does acceleration.

The exceptional mod is mass + drag probably both max out at 23% I think.

For top speed the basic 45% thrust mod is good.

The exceptional forward thrust mod might max out at about 30% thrust, 30% engine strafe thrust, 30% engine rotation thrust, 50% engine boost trust and 50% travel mode thrust.

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Re: List of ship mod attributes?

Post by Lazerius » Wed, 1. May 19, 18:31

burger1 wrote:
Wed, 1. May 19, 06:04
Drag mod does top speed, boost speed, travel speed, yaw, pitch and roll but not acceleration.

Mass does acceleration.

The exceptional mod is mass + drag probably both max out at 23% I think.

For top speed the basic 45% thrust mod is good.

The exceptional forward thrust mod might max out at about 30% thrust, 30% engine strafe thrust, 30% engine rotation thrust, 50% engine boost trust and 50% travel mode thrust.
Top notch info! This lines up with a few other things I found yesterday.

One thing I'm still curious on is if Mass reduction also impacts stopping as well. As in, time in takes to go from full throttle to full stop.


Also, any info on what these do?:

Boost Duration
Travel Attack Time
Travel Release Time
Weapon Sticky Projectile Time


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Re: List of ship mod attributes?

Post by Ezarkal » Wed, 1. May 19, 19:55

Pure speculations:

Boost duration: -Reduction of shield drain while boosting, allowing for longer boost time.
Weapon sticky projectile time: -Must be a relic from one of XR's weapon. The bullets would stick to the target and deal damage over time. More sticky time would mean more overall damage. AFAIK, no X4 weapons works that way... yet

No idea for the others.
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Re: List of ship mod attributes?

Post by RodentofDoom » Sat, 18. May 19, 18:56

Travel attack could be how long it takes to spool up travel mode (probably more useful applied to L/XL ships)
travel release could be the deceleration rate when leaving travel mode


In XR the Mk3 pulse laser that you purchased from the Teladi had a DoT effect .. I'd imagine this is the "stickiness" thing

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Re: List of ship mod attributes?

Post by Lazerius » Wed, 22. May 19, 22:51

RodentofDoom wrote:
Sat, 18. May 19, 18:56
could be
probably
could be
I'd imagine
Which means you don't know.

We can sit around and speculate all day, but that won't provide, as requested in the original post:
formal documentation, or just a confirmed list of what each item does.
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Re: List of ship mod attributes?

Post by RodentofDoom » Thu, 23. May 19, 00:21

Lazerius wrote:
Wed, 22. May 19, 22:51
RodentofDoom wrote:
Sat, 18. May 19, 18:56
could be
probably
could be
I'd imagine
Which means you don't know.

We can sit around and speculate all day, but that won't provide, as requested in the original post:
formal documentation, or just a confirmed list of what each item does.
so go look it up in the documentation



oh yeah … right.

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