Station Designs (Build Plans & Screenshots)

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Re: Station Designs (Build Plans & Screenshots)

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Re: Station Designs (Build Plans & Screenshots)

Post by Loneshade » Mon, 4. Mar 19, 16:11

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Re: Station Designs (Build Plans & Screenshots)

Post by linolafett » Mon, 4. Mar 19, 16:37

This is madness.. poor logical station overview.
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Re: Station Designs (Build Plans & Screenshots)

Post by ArboriusCZ » Mon, 4. Mar 19, 17:38

Loneshade: Beautiful, i love it :)
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Re: Station Designs (Build Plans & Screenshots)

Post by Phlt » Mon, 4. Mar 19, 17:44

Loneshade wrote:
Mon, 4. Mar 19, 16:11
Wharf, WIP
Any lag while traveling in this Sector?

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Re: Station Designs (Build Plans & Screenshots)

Post by Loneshade » Mon, 4. Mar 19, 22:07

Phlt wrote:
Mon, 4. Mar 19, 17:44
Any lag while traveling in this Sector?
I clearly expect some fps drop - but I hope it will do better since this time I used buildings for walls and avoided wire structures.
There's a bit of room for improvement, i.e. some parts i'll probably be able to strip later without affecting function and looks.
but first need to see it completed... I'll make a video when done, but I'm afraid that will take 2-3 days as i can't use seta right now.


Ps: no technical issue with SETA, but there's a war in HAT and Ianamus Zura. Xenon already semi-blew up the Teladi HQ there, wonder if they'll ever manage to repair/rebuild it ;)

My old 'monster' station with 2 other small installations nearby does drop my fps to 12 though.
I'll have to strip it down and rebuild it - once its financed that wharf ;) Main visual issue being how the items fade with distance... the old stations was built with a Paranid structure wireframe and tons of factories strung to it. Was hoping it to end like a busy city, but seems X4 doesn't handle that as I had expected. Rather than reduce object detail on distance it fades content, so even stations with tons of parts don't make for massive looks, but rather seem like loose joints from a distance. https://i.imgur.com/1AHVpWa.jpg and https://i.imgur.com/82g51Fk.jpg. Honestly had me slightly disappointed. Gotta figure a new station plan idea instead :)

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Re: Station Designs (Build Plans & Screenshots)

Post by Roger L.S. Griffiths » Tue, 5. Mar 19, 09:55

linolafett wrote:
Mon, 4. Mar 19, 16:37
This is madness.. poor logical station overview.
huh? :gruebel:
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Re: Station Designs (Build Plans & Screenshots)

Post by RainerPrem » Tue, 5. Mar 19, 11:22

linolafett wrote:
Mon, 4. Mar 19, 16:37
This is madness.. poor logical station overview.
May I just suggest that you aggregate all productions of one type to a single rectangle in the logical overview? That would make everything more transparent.

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Re: Station Designs (Build Plans & Screenshots)

Post by linolafett » Tue, 5. Mar 19, 11:37

RainerPrem wrote:
Tue, 5. Mar 19, 11:22
linolafett wrote:
Mon, 4. Mar 19, 16:37
This is madness.. poor logical station overview.
May I just suggest that you aggregate all productions of one type to a single rectangle in the logical overview? That would make everything more transparent.
Thats the long term plan, yes. This is the only good solution i see for this problem.
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Re: Station Designs (Build Plans & Screenshots)

Post by Roger L.S. Griffiths » Tue, 5. Mar 19, 21:52

linolafett wrote:
Tue, 5. Mar 19, 11:37
RainerPrem wrote:
Tue, 5. Mar 19, 11:22
linolafett wrote:
Mon, 4. Mar 19, 16:37
This is madness.. poor logical station overview.
May I just suggest that you aggregate all productions of one type to a single rectangle in the logical overview? That would make everything more transparent.
Thats the long term plan, yes. This is the only good solution i see for this problem.
How about a hierachical view with connections defining list order in a breadth first manner?

Alternatively, allow the player to group the modules arbitrarily as sub-plans which can be saved and loaded as well as be used to condense the logical overview. I don't know about anyone else but I tend to follow standard sub-patterns when creating most of my stations.

Illustrative Example:-

Code: Select all

 + Station Plan
 | + Module Sequence 1
 | | + Module A
 | | + Module Sequence 2
 | | | + Module B
 | | | + Module C
 | | * Module Sequence 2
 | | * Module Sequence 2
 | | + Module D
 | | * Module Sequence 2
 | * Module Sequence 2
 | * Module Sequence 1
 | + Module E
Or something like that.

[EDIT]Correction, that is planning view I am referring to - not logical view. :P

WRT logical view - the ability to collapse and expand production modules of the same type would be nice.[/EDIT]
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Re: Station Designs (Build Plans & Screenshots)

Post by Loneshade » Wed, 6. Mar 19, 11:08

I think the one-box would be ok (with the average production % of all modules of that type)

Honestly, there's no value in the information per-module, since in the end you can't control individual module's production anyway (and it would be pointless too).
What matters is only the total amount of resources needed per hour and the output, hence bundling it would actually make things more simple and the view more helpful.

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Re: Station Designs (Build Plans & Screenshots)

Post by Mileniumman » Thu, 7. Mar 19, 20:08

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Just see the plan in my OP - it is not even completed, and not just 1 minute, several minutes at a time - could be mistaken for a complete lock up but leave it long enough and it does seem to recover eventually.
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Hi, I just wanted to know where is the OP you are talking about ? I don't seem to be able to find it :? :o it will be greatly appreciated :D :lol:

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Re: Station Designs (Build Plans & Screenshots)

Post by Roger L.S. Griffiths » Thu, 7. Mar 19, 21:55

Mileniumman wrote:
Thu, 7. Mar 19, 20:08
Just see the plan in my OP - it is not even completed, and not just 1 minute, several minutes at a time - could be mistaken for a complete lock up but leave it long enough and it does seem to recover eventually.
Hi, I just wanted to know where is the OP you are talking about ? I don't seem to be able to find it :? :o it will be greatly appreciated :D :lol:
Go to the start of the thread :roll:
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Re: Station Designs (Build Plans & Screenshots)

Post by lordmuck » Thu, 7. Mar 19, 23:20

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Re: Station Designs (Build Plans & Screenshots)

Post by Mileniumman » Thu, 14. Mar 19, 19:27

Roger L.S. Griffiths wrote:
Thu, 7. Mar 19, 21:55
Mileniumman wrote:
Thu, 7. Mar 19, 20:08
Just see the plan in my OP - it is not even completed, and not just 1 minute, several minutes at a time - could be mistaken for a complete lock up but leave it long enough and it does seem to recover eventually.
Hi, I just wanted to know where is the OP you are talking about ? I don't seem to be able to find it :? :o it will be greatly appreciated :D :lol:
Go to the start of the thread :roll:
:roll: :roll: :roll: Someone told me OP stands for Original Post :lol: :lol: :oops: :oops: Thanks

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