[Mod] XR Ship Pack (28 ships now)

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Re: [Mod] XR Ship Pack (27 ships now)

Post by Komotz » Thu, 6. Feb 20, 05:32

I'm super thankful for your work on this mod, loved the ships in X-Rebirth, especially the Omicron Lyrae ships (mainly the Fulmekron, Olmekron, and Lyramekron). Very excited when you start work on those, I'll test those things straight into the ground.

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Re: [Mod] XR Ship Pack (27 ships now)

Post by Max Bain » Thu, 6. Feb 20, 10:33

Glad you like it.
It is very likely that I will add some more omicron ships (especially the transports) in the future, but I dont have any time frame yet. The next version will be a smaller one with just some bug fixes.
I finally found out how to make carriers behave like real carriers with supply and repair options :).
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Re: [Mod] XR Ship Pack (27 ships now)

Post by Max Bain » Thu, 6. Feb 20, 21:23

Just uploaded 1.0.7. It mainly contains bug fixes and little changes. But for carriers it is very important (you might need to rebuild them to use the new resuply/repair ability - havent tried it).
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Re: [Mod] XR Ship Pack (27 ships now)

Post by HateDread » Thu, 27. Feb 20, 14:40

Thanks for this awesome mod!

With 3.0 on the horizon, I'm using the VRO 2.0 beta and have all of the other mods recommended. I started a save but have realized from your Nexus Mods comments that this pack is (of course) not balanced around VRO and existing saves will remain that way. If you have the VRO-balanced files around, is it possible to acquire them to restart and not put any more time into a messed-up universe? Even as a "beta" or unofficial, no-support release.

Would love to play with your beautiful ships. Cheers!

Edit: would it work to play without this but with VRO 2.0 beta, then grab this mod when the VRO compatibility is released? Or must it be installed from the start?

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Re: [Mod] XR Ship Pack (27 ships now)

Post by Max Bain » Thu, 27. Feb 20, 18:09

HateDread wrote:
Thu, 27. Feb 20, 14:40
Thanks for this awesome mod!

With 3.0 on the horizon, I'm using the VRO 2.0 beta and have all of the other mods recommended. I started a save but have realized from your Nexus Mods comments that this pack is (of course) not balanced around VRO and existing saves will remain that way. If you have the VRO-balanced files around, is it possible to acquire them to restart and not put any more time into a messed-up universe? Even as a "beta" or unofficial, no-support release.

Would love to play with your beautiful ships. Cheers!

Edit: would it work to play without this but with VRO 2.0 beta, then grab this mod when the VRO compatibility is released? Or must it be installed from the start?
Hi,

there are 2 scenarios possible:

1. you play with the actual XR Ship Pack and VRO 2.0. In this case the ships are not very balanced. L and XL ships from the Ship Pack have less hull points and are a bit cheaper in general.
Later when the XR Ship Pack Submod for the VRO Balance comes out, all your already bought ships and all NPC ships that are already built will get the new balanced ship hull values (and some freighters get increased capacities). Never the less, the already built ships will not get the new internal shields that come with VRO 2.0. That means, that the regeneration of shields will be way slower than it should. All ships that you will buy after you have installed the VRO Ship Pack version (when it comes out) will sure get the internal shields, so this is only relevant for all to date existing ships.
Advantage: AI will produce the new ships right from start.
Disadvantage: L and XL ships are weaker and a bit cheaper

2. You wait until the SHip Pack VRO version comes out. Then all new ships will get the new values and internal shields. This sure means, that the AI too has to start building the new ships from scratch. So it will take a lot more time until you will see some flying around.
Advantage: good balance from start but no new ships until VRO Version comes out
Disadvantage: AI will not use the new ships until VRO Version comes out.


Both scenarios are completely possible. Over a long play time you lose nothing in both.
X4 Editor (view stats of objects and make your own mod within a few clicks) viewtopic.php?f=181&t=421306
XR Ship Pack (adds several ships from XR) viewtopic.php?f=181&t=419641
Weapon Pack (adds several new weapons) viewtopic.php?f=181&t=421266

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Re: [Mod] XR Ship Pack (27 ships now)

Post by HateDread » Sun, 1. Mar 20, 14:03

Max Bain wrote:
Thu, 27. Feb 20, 18:09
HateDread wrote:
Thu, 27. Feb 20, 14:40
Thanks for this awesome mod!

With 3.0 on the horizon, I'm using the VRO 2.0 beta and have all of the other mods recommended. I started a save but have realized from your Nexus Mods comments that this pack is (of course) not balanced around VRO and existing saves will remain that way. If you have the VRO-balanced files around, is it possible to acquire them to restart and not put any more time into a messed-up universe? Even as a "beta" or unofficial, no-support release.

Would love to play with your beautiful ships. Cheers!

Edit: would it work to play without this but with VRO 2.0 beta, then grab this mod when the VRO compatibility is released? Or must it be installed from the start?
Hi,

there are 2 scenarios possible:

1. you play with the actual XR Ship Pack and VRO 2.0. In this case the ships are not very balanced. L and XL ships from the Ship Pack have less hull points and are a bit cheaper in general.
Later when the XR Ship Pack Submod for the VRO Balance comes out, all your already bought ships and all NPC ships that are already built will get the new balanced ship hull values (and some freighters get increased capacities). Never the less, the already built ships will not get the new internal shields that come with VRO 2.0. That means, that the regeneration of shields will be way slower than it should. All ships that you will buy after you have installed the VRO Ship Pack version (when it comes out) will sure get the internal shields, so this is only relevant for all to date existing ships.
Advantage: AI will produce the new ships right from start.
Disadvantage: L and XL ships are weaker and a bit cheaper

2. You wait until the SHip Pack VRO version comes out. Then all new ships will get the new values and internal shields. This sure means, that the AI too has to start building the new ships from scratch. So it will take a lot more time until you will see some flying around.
Advantage: good balance from start but no new ships until VRO Version comes out
Disadvantage: AI will not use the new ships until VRO Version comes out.


Both scenarios are completely possible. Over a long play time you lose nothing in both.
Hey, thanks for your detailed answer! The situation makes more sense now. Just to be clear - is there no way to convert ships built before the new version, perhaps even with cheats? I'm at the financial stage of being able to buy the ship pack's capital ships :) I suppose it's not a big deal since they're cheaper, thus balanced in a way.

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Re: [Mod] XR Ship Pack (27 ships now)

Post by Max Bain » Sun, 1. Mar 20, 14:26

HateDread wrote:
Sun, 1. Mar 20, 14:03
Hey, thanks for your detailed answer! The situation makes more sense now. Just to be clear - is there no way to convert ships built before the new version, perhaps even with cheats? I'm at the financial stage of being able to buy the ship pack's capital ships :) I suppose it's not a big deal since they're cheaper, thus balanced in a way.
I am pretty sure that it would be possible by editing your safe game, but I have no idea how complicated that is. You would have to add the internal shield component (which is individual for each ship) to each of your built ships. Can be easy, but also can be difficult. I never have done this and you should ask someone else for more help here - sorry.
X4 Editor (view stats of objects and make your own mod within a few clicks) viewtopic.php?f=181&t=421306
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Weapon Pack (adds several new weapons) viewtopic.php?f=181&t=421266

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Re: [Mod] XR Ship Pack (27 ships now)

Post by Shuulo » Mon, 2. Mar 20, 01:23

IMO, can be easier just sell and buy new ship, while loosing credits and time its the most painless way.

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Re: [Mod] XR Ship Pack (28 ships now)

Post by Max Bain » Wed, 4. Mar 20, 17:45

Hi guys,

I just uploaded 1.0.8 to Nexus (and not to Steam).

I want you to test something out for me if possible. I changed the Fedhelm transport to an asteroid miner because there are already 4 L sized transports for Argons and the ship fits better to a miner because of the Hermod as an liquid miner. and similar design.
So I changed the cargo type (and some other values and modules).
All existing Fedhelms need to dock and get an L mining turret and some mining drones. Additionally, the orders need to change from auto trade to auto mine.

Can you please tell me if that works without big problems? If yes, I will upload it to Steam as well. Thank you.
X4 Editor (view stats of objects and make your own mod within a few clicks) viewtopic.php?f=181&t=421306
XR Ship Pack (adds several ships from XR) viewtopic.php?f=181&t=419641
Weapon Pack (adds several new weapons) viewtopic.php?f=181&t=421266

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Re: [Mod] XR Ship Pack (28 ships now)

Post by Riccardoman » Thu, 5. Mar 20, 09:21

Really appreciate your work max bain
Hope you'll do something similar with XR stations in the future

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Re: [Mod] XR Ship Pack (28 ships now)

Post by Max Bain » Thu, 5. Mar 20, 15:31

Riccardoman wrote:
Thu, 5. Mar 20, 09:21
Really appreciate your work max bain
Hope you'll do something similar with XR stations in the future
Thank you, but I must disappoint you. Stations are out of scope of this mod and it would take a ton of work to add new stations (and what role would they have?).

Apart from that I want to switch from modding to playing in the near future (that was the whole plan). So if the Ship Pack is compatible with Vendetta, I will start playing the game finally. I might add some M ships in the future, but I can not promise them at all.
X4 Editor (view stats of objects and make your own mod within a few clicks) viewtopic.php?f=181&t=421306
XR Ship Pack (adds several ships from XR) viewtopic.php?f=181&t=419641
Weapon Pack (adds several new weapons) viewtopic.php?f=181&t=421266

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Re: [Mod] XR Ship Pack (28 ships now)

Post by AaronS » Mon, 23. Mar 20, 12:46

I love the ships, the scaldis reminds me on the ww2 era carriers and so far is my favourite.
Thanks for giving of your time to bring us these ships.
If I wanted to add turrets and move some of the docks (so that they are uniform) how would I go about doing that?
Any advise you could give I would appreciate it. I have looked at the ship tutorials, but they weren't very helpful.

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Re: [Mod] XR Ship Pack (28 ships now)

Post by Max Bain » Mon, 23. Mar 20, 13:44

AaronS wrote:
Mon, 23. Mar 20, 12:46
I love the ships, the scaldis reminds me on the ww2 era carriers and so far is my favourite.
Thanks for giving of your time to bring us these ships.
If I wanted to add turrets and move some of the docks (so that they are uniform) how would I go about doing that?
Any advise you could give I would appreciate it. I have looked at the ship tutorials, but they weren't very helpful.
Thank you!

Adding turrets is not very easy and takes time if you havent done it before. Removing on the other hand is quite simple.
In the shipname.xml files (not the macro file) there are all coordinates of the modules listed and what type of module it is.

But to get these coodrinates you need to work with Blender or 3DSMax, a tool to make readable 3D files (.dae files) for the program and a tool to generate the coordinates for the new modules if you dont want to calculate them by hand (what I strongly suggest).
It is not easy to explain how the whole work chain works and there is at least one good tutorial from BrummBear in the modding forum for doing this I think.
But dont think that it is a task you can do in a few minutes. Even when you know how to do it, it takes some time until you have a good looking place for a module and everything works right.
X4 Editor (view stats of objects and make your own mod within a few clicks) viewtopic.php?f=181&t=421306
XR Ship Pack (adds several ships from XR) viewtopic.php?f=181&t=419641
Weapon Pack (adds several new weapons) viewtopic.php?f=181&t=421266

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Re: [Mod] XR Ship Pack (28 ships now)

Post by AaronS » Mon, 23. Mar 20, 13:52

What I had in mind was to add large turrets to the cutouts on the front, and four medium turrets per side two on top and two on bottom.
The docks I wanted too move them around so that they were connected.
I don't know if they ai would interfere with each other though.
I wanted to make it resemble the ww2 carriers, the USS Saipan used to have two five inch guns on the front for support.
I love the sight of the small ships screaming out of the hold.

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Re: [Mod] XR Ship Pack (28 ships now)

Post by Meme Turtle » Wed, 25. Mar 20, 13:19

Are you planning to add any ships to Split?

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