The whole world is frozen - Save corrupt and 3rd party dll somehow involved.

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The whole world is frozen - Save corrupt and 3rd party dll somehow involved.

Post by MAJLbIW » Mon, 20. Feb 23, 10:27

Hi all!
Such a situation that I can not trade, not fight, the whole world just froze.
I play without mods.
Video attached: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHFoMa1sHFc&t=18s

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Re: The whole world is frozen

Post by CBJ » Mon, 20. Feb 23, 11:55

We can't tell much from a video. Please provide a savegame.

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Re: The whole world is frozen

Post by MAJLbIW » Mon, 20. Feb 23, 12:01

I checked the game files, files are intact.
Here is a link to the conservation folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing
File debuglog.txt: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CNooni ... sp=sharing

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Re: The whole world is frozen

Post by Alan Phipps » Mon, 20. Feb 23, 12:25

Could you add your DxDiag and VulcanInfo to your sharing folder please. These will really help investigation. Thanks. :)

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Re: The whole world is frozen

Post by Alan Phipps » Mon, 20. Feb 23, 13:03

Thanks. All of the X4 problems listed in your Windows Error Reporting at the end of the DxDiag are either to do with CELib_x64.dll or ntdll.dll.

The first is a dll that many gamers with issues complain about as being from a trainer/cheat app or even from a PhotoShop module. Most seem to want to rename or remove it and see if it just disappears for good, or is automatically reinstalled (perhaps more correctly).

The second is a system core dll that usually (but not always) shows up as an issue when there are driver problems.
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Re: The whole world is frozen

Post by MAJLbIW » Mon, 20. Feb 23, 13:08

Alan Phipps wrote:
Mon, 20. Feb 23, 13:03
Thanks. All of the X4 problems listed in your Windows Error Reporting at the end of the DxDiag are either to do with CELib_x64.dll or ntdll.dll.

The first is a dll that many gamers with issues complain about as being from a trainer/cheat app or even from a PhotoShop module. Most seem to want to rename or remove it and see if it just disappears for good, or is automatically reinstalled (perhaps more correctly).

The second is a system core dll that usually (but not always) shows up as an issue when there are driver problems.
How will this help me?
What needs to be done to bring the world to life?

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Re: The whole world is frozen

Post by Alan Phipps » Mon, 20. Feb 23, 13:22

Could you please search your system files for CELib_x64.dll and see what application folders it is associated with or may install it.

(There is no instance of it on my PC.)
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Re: The whole world is frozen

Post by MAJLbIW » Mon, 20. Feb 23, 16:09

I don't have such a file.

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Re: The whole world is frozen

Post by Alan Phipps » Mon, 20. Feb 23, 16:16

Then something very strange is going on as there would be no reason for a normal X4 installation to even be looking for it, let alone have it crash the game.

One example from your DxDiag Windows Error Reports:

Контейнер ошибки 2292692807938497313, тип 4
Имя события: APPCRASH
Отклик: Нет данных
Идентификатор CAB: 0

Сигнатура проблемы:
P1: X4.exe
P2: 5.10.0.0
P3: 62a71d3c
P4: CELib_x64.dll

I have no more ideas, very sorry.
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Re: The whole world is frozen

Post by Imperial Good » Mon, 20. Feb 23, 16:26

I can confirm something is seriously wrong with their save. Tested using 6.00 public beta. Their save and the client after loading are not reported as modified so it appears to be a vanilla bug with that respect.

I loaded up the quicksave they provided with this link...
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... pjUkqVOfEw

All AI and NPC logic seem stuck/broken/dead. All player issued orders do not get executed with the ships stuck in place. NPCs will not move or issue orders at all, for example you can teleport into an S ship near their HQ and shoot up nearby MIN ships and MIN will go hostile but not even try to retaliate (Command remains None). NPC turrets will not even fire back at the player attacking them.

Alan mentioned that one of the DLLs they saw may be related to trainer/cheat applications. Is it possible that such an application could modify X4 without it flagging as modified? I recommend confirming that you never tried to use such an application on X4 during that playthrough.
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Here is a link to the conservation folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing
I recommend enabling save file compression. Not only is it easier to backup and transfer the save files, but there is as good as no performance impact to using save file compression. All claims that turning off save file compression improve save/load speed have been proven false, the difference is within margin of time measurement error.

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Re: The whole world is frozen

Post by user1679 » Tue, 21. Feb 23, 05:56

CELib_x64.dll is from a trainer / cheatmod called WeMod. It often installs a "GameLauncher.exe" which is how X4 probably got infected.

While I don't endorse downloading / paying for removal tools or uninstallers because those often become problematic on their own, this
page does list places this can hide, including registry paths. It probably isn't an exhaustive list but it's a place to start.

https://www.advanceduninstaller.com/WeM ... cation.htm

Quoting here in case that website disappears. Hidden in a spoiler because there are a LOT of files and registry keys.
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The executables below are part of WeMod. They take an average of 127.60 MB (133793856 bytes) on disk.

squirrel.exe (1.85 MB)
WeMod.exe (536.50 KB)
WeMod.exe (122.42 MB)
GameLauncher.exe (19.39 KB)

...click to view all...

The information on this page is only about version 8.3.5 of WeMod. You can find below info on other releases of WeMod:

6.2.1601
6.1.5
8.0.10
6.2.15
8.0.4

...click to view all...
Some files and registry entries are regularly left behind when you remove WeMod.

Folders remaining:

C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\IndexedDB\https_community.wemod.com_0.indexeddb.leveldb
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\WeMod
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\WeMod
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod


Usually, the following files are left on disk:

C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\IndexedDB\https_community.wemod.com_0.indexeddb.leveldb\000003.log
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\IndexedDB\https_community.wemod.com_0.indexeddb.leveldb\CURRENT
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\IndexedDB\https_community.wemod.com_0.indexeddb.leveldb\LOCK
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\IndexedDB\https_community.wemod.com_0.indexeddb.leveldb\LOG
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\IndexedDB\https_community.wemod.com_0.indexeddb.leveldb\MANIFEST-000001
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy\LocalState\AppIconCache\100\com_squirrel_WeMod_WeMod
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\WeMod\app-8.3.5\resources\app.asar.unpacked\static\unpacked\trainerlib\CELib_x64.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\WeMod\app-8.3.5\resources\app.asar.unpacked\static\unpacked\trainerlib\TrainerLib_x64.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\init.json
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\download\Trainer_31747_de0fd4978b.dll.1664199354835.tmp
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\download\Trainer_31747_de0fd4978b.dll.1664220200610.tmp
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_29364_0f1ecaa296.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_29971_301a8cc95b.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_31747_de0fd4978b.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_32552_b43d4941ba.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_32791_7ce045169e.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_32798_c4c5a1a81d.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_32821_936952bf68.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_32869_0e6c178d33.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_32874_079dde4e5b.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_33016_b16a3ca2c7.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_34070_94e82ba788.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_34427_ee14e2c642.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_34735_b06398e8e0.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_34980_8963771822.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_35158_e74e22284b.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_35187_76bb8bb9a4.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_35470_a5dcef0826.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_35539_cdb21d03b8.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\data_0
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\data_1
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\data_2
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\data_3
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000001
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000003
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000004
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000005
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000006
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000007
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000008
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000009
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00000e
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00000f
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000011
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000012
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000014
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000017
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000019
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00001b
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00001c
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00001d
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00001e
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00001f
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000024
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000028
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000029
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00002a
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000032
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000033
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000035
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000037
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00003a
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00003b
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00003f
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000040
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000041
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\index
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Code Cache\js\index
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Code Cache\wasm\index
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\GPUCache\data_0
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\GPUCache\data_1
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\GPUCache\data_2
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\GPUCache\data_3
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\GPUCache\index
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local State
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local Storage\leveldb\000287.ldb
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local Storage\leveldb\012445.ldb
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local Storage\leveldb\012447.ldb
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local Storage\leveldb\012448.log
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local Storage\leveldb\012449.ldb
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local Storage\leveldb\CURRENT
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local Storage\leveldb\LOCK
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local Storage\leveldb\LOG
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local Storage\leveldb\MANIFEST-000001
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Network\Cookies
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Network\Network Persistent State
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Network\NetworkDataMigrated
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Network\TransportSecurity
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Preferences
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Session Storage\000003.log
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Session Storage\CURRENT
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Session Storage\LOCK
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Session Storage\LOG
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Session Storage\MANIFEST-000001


You will find in the Windows Registry that the following keys will not be cleaned; remove them one by one using regedit.exe:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\wemod
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\WeMod
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Tracing\WeMod-Setup_RASAPI32
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Tracing\WeMod-Setup_RASMANCS
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Tracing\WeMod-Setup_RASAPI32
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Tracing\WeMod-Setup_RASMANCS


Registry values that are not removed from your PC:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\MuiCache\C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\WeMod\app-8.3.5\WeMod.exe.ApplicationCompany
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\MuiCache\C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\WeMod\app-8.3.5\WeMod.exe.FriendlyAppName
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\MuiCache\C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\WeMod\WeMod.exe.ApplicationCompany
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\MuiCache\C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\WeMod\WeMod.exe.FriendlyAppName
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\MuiCache\C:\Users\UserName\Desktop\WeMod-Setup.exe.ApplicationCompany
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\MuiCache\C:\Users\UserName\Desktop\WeMod-Setup.exe.FriendlyAppName
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\bam\State\UserSettings\S-1-5-21-652727789-2520408731-1321068424-1001\\Device\HarddiskVolume5\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\Temp\WeMod-Setup-638004858014304769.exe
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\bam\State\UserSettings\S-1-5-21-652727789-2520408731-1321068424-1001\\Device\HarddiskVolume5\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\Temp\WeMod-Setup-638004861104599276.exe
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\bam\State\UserSettings\S-1-5-21-652727789-2520408731-1321068424-1001\\Device\HarddiskVolume5\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\WeMod\app-8.3.5\WeMod.exe

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Re: The whole world is frozen

Post by MAJLbIW » Fri, 24. Feb 23, 09:42

user1679 wrote:
Tue, 21. Feb 23, 05:56
CELib_x64.dll is from a trainer / cheatmod called WeMod. It often installs a "GameLauncher.exe" which is how X4 probably got infected.

While I don't endorse downloading / paying for removal tools or uninstallers because those often become problematic on their own, this
page does list places this can hide, including registry paths. It probably isn't an exhaustive list but it's a place to start.

https://www.advanceduninstaller.com/WeM ... cation.htm

Quoting here in case that website disappears. Hidden in a spoiler because there are a LOT of files and registry keys.
Spoiler
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The executables below are part of WeMod. They take an average of 127.60 MB (133793856 bytes) on disk.

squirrel.exe (1.85 MB)
WeMod.exe (536.50 KB)
WeMod.exe (122.42 MB)
GameLauncher.exe (19.39 KB)

...click to view all...

The information on this page is only about version 8.3.5 of WeMod. You can find below info on other releases of WeMod:

6.2.1601
6.1.5
8.0.10
6.2.15
8.0.4

...click to view all...
Some files and registry entries are regularly left behind when you remove WeMod.

Folders remaining:

C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\IndexedDB\https_community.wemod.com_0.indexeddb.leveldb
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\WeMod
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\WeMod
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod


Usually, the following files are left on disk:

C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\IndexedDB\https_community.wemod.com_0.indexeddb.leveldb\000003.log
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\IndexedDB\https_community.wemod.com_0.indexeddb.leveldb\CURRENT
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\IndexedDB\https_community.wemod.com_0.indexeddb.leveldb\LOCK
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\IndexedDB\https_community.wemod.com_0.indexeddb.leveldb\LOG
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\IndexedDB\https_community.wemod.com_0.indexeddb.leveldb\MANIFEST-000001
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy\LocalState\AppIconCache\100\com_squirrel_WeMod_WeMod
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\WeMod\app-8.3.5\resources\app.asar.unpacked\static\unpacked\trainerlib\CELib_x64.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\WeMod\app-8.3.5\resources\app.asar.unpacked\static\unpacked\trainerlib\TrainerLib_x64.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\init.json
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\download\Trainer_31747_de0fd4978b.dll.1664199354835.tmp
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\download\Trainer_31747_de0fd4978b.dll.1664220200610.tmp
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_29364_0f1ecaa296.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_29971_301a8cc95b.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_31747_de0fd4978b.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_32552_b43d4941ba.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_32791_7ce045169e.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_32798_c4c5a1a81d.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_32821_936952bf68.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_32869_0e6c178d33.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_32874_079dde4e5b.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_33016_b16a3ca2c7.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_34070_94e82ba788.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_34427_ee14e2c642.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_34735_b06398e8e0.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_34980_8963771822.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_35158_e74e22284b.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_35187_76bb8bb9a4.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_35470_a5dcef0826.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\App\trainers\Trainer_35539_cdb21d03b8.dll
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\data_0
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\data_1
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\data_2
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\data_3
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000001
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000003
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000004
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000005
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000006
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000007
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000008
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000009
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00000e
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00000f
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000011
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000012
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000014
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000017
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000019
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00001b
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00001c
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00001d
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00001e
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00001f
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000024
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000028
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000029
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00002a
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000032
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000033
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000035
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000037
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00003a
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00003b
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_00003f
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000040
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\f_000041
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Cache\Cache_Data\index
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Code Cache\js\index
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Code Cache\wasm\index
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\GPUCache\data_0
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\GPUCache\data_1
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\GPUCache\data_2
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\GPUCache\data_3
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\GPUCache\index
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local State
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local Storage\leveldb\000287.ldb
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local Storage\leveldb\012445.ldb
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local Storage\leveldb\012447.ldb
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local Storage\leveldb\012448.log
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local Storage\leveldb\012449.ldb
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local Storage\leveldb\CURRENT
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local Storage\leveldb\LOCK
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local Storage\leveldb\LOG
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Local Storage\leveldb\MANIFEST-000001
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Network\Cookies
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Network\Network Persistent State
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Network\NetworkDataMigrated
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Network\TransportSecurity
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Preferences
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Session Storage\000003.log
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Session Storage\CURRENT
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Session Storage\LOCK
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Session Storage\LOG
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Roaming\WeMod\Session Storage\MANIFEST-000001


You will find in the Windows Registry that the following keys will not be cleaned; remove them one by one using regedit.exe:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\wemod
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\WeMod
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Tracing\WeMod-Setup_RASAPI32
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Tracing\WeMod-Setup_RASMANCS
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Tracing\WeMod-Setup_RASAPI32
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Tracing\WeMod-Setup_RASMANCS


Registry values that are not removed from your PC:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\MuiCache\C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\WeMod\app-8.3.5\WeMod.exe.ApplicationCompany
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\MuiCache\C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\WeMod\app-8.3.5\WeMod.exe.FriendlyAppName
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\MuiCache\C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\WeMod\WeMod.exe.ApplicationCompany
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\MuiCache\C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\WeMod\WeMod.exe.FriendlyAppName
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\MuiCache\C:\Users\UserName\Desktop\WeMod-Setup.exe.ApplicationCompany
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\MuiCache\C:\Users\UserName\Desktop\WeMod-Setup.exe.FriendlyAppName
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\bam\State\UserSettings\S-1-5-21-652727789-2520408731-1321068424-1001\\Device\HarddiskVolume5\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\Temp\WeMod-Setup-638004858014304769.exe
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\bam\State\UserSettings\S-1-5-21-652727789-2520408731-1321068424-1001\\Device\HarddiskVolume5\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\Temp\WeMod-Setup-638004861104599276.exe
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\bam\State\UserSettings\S-1-5-21-652727789-2520408731-1321068424-1001\\Device\HarddiskVolume5\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\WeMod\app-8.3.5\WeMod.exe
Why do I need all this, the game itself does not work correctly for me, and if you use mods and cheats, then these are your problems.
I don’t even know about such cheats that they exist!

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Re: The whole world is frozen - Save corrupt and 3rd party dll somehow involved.

Post by chew-ie » Fri, 24. Feb 23, 09:52

MAJLbIW wrote:
Fri, 24. Feb 23, 09:42
Why do I need all this, the game itself does not work correctly for me, and if you use mods and cheats, then these are your problems.
I don’t even know about such cheats that they exist!
You don't need them - but your game crashed because in relation to that software according to your DxDiag, as pointed out by Alan. I'd say you really should check your computer if you don't know about this software being installed.

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Re: The whole world is frozen

Post by user1679 » Fri, 24. Feb 23, 10:30

MAJLbIW wrote:
Fri, 24. Feb 23, 09:42
Why do I need all this, the game itself does not work correctly for me, and if you use mods and cheats, then these are your problems.
I don’t even know about such cheats that they exist!
I think you misunderstood. I was not suggesting you use a cheatmod but rather I posted instructions on how to remove it. The DLL
referenced in your dxdiag is not part of X4. If you did not install the cheatmod on purpose, there are a couple ways this could have
been installed:

1. You share your computer and someone else installed it
2. You downloaded some other software that might have had it bundled together (common with "shareware" programs)
3. You used a game that you downloaded from somewhere that already had the associated "launcher.exe" and other files included

In any case, I would suggest you run a malware scan to see if there is anything on your system that needs cleaning. Then do a fresh
install of X4.

Finally, when launching X4, do not use anything except X4.EXE to start it, no launchers or other "helpful" software.

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Re: The whole world is frozen

Post by user1679 » Fri, 24. Feb 23, 10:37

Imperial Good wrote:
Mon, 20. Feb 23, 16:26
Alan mentioned that one of the DLLs they saw may be related to trainer/cheat applications. Is it possible that such an application could modify X4 without it flagging as modified?
Yes, those cheatmods usually attach themselves to the executable at startup (a common hooking library is Detours by Microsoft) which is why they have loaders such as "launcher.exe" and
other innocuous programs. They're essentially debuggers with a user friendly GUI so instead of seeing a bunch of memory addresses with assembly code, you see a checkbox that says
"give me 1000000000 shield". Unless the game is using specific anti-cheat code, they usually go undetected.

Since most of these "trainer" programs offer direct memory editing, it is possible (though I don't know with this one) that the game is being flagged as modified but the cheat engine is
just flipping it back, perhaps to allow modded games to use ventures (when it was enabled).

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Re: The whole world is frozen - Save corrupt and 3rd party dll somehow involved.

Post by Alan Phipps » Fri, 24. Feb 23, 11:51

Thanks, but enough discussion here of potential cheat modes and apps as it is all irrelevant now. This thread *may* also show that what may look expedient or a good idea at the time can sometimes have unforeseen consequences.

It has been pointed out to the OP that their X4 game and saves have quite evidently been corrupted by some 3rd party app that is nothing to do with X4, however that app or its remnants became involved.

As also pointed out above, the only safe solution (after eradicating that 3rd party app and remnants if necessary) is a complete X4 game and save wipe and a clean reinstall and fresh start. Nothing else really needs to be said.
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Re: The whole world is frozen - Save corrupt and 3rd party dll somehow involved.

Post by MAJLbIW » Fri, 24. Feb 23, 11:59

Due to the fact that the game works incorrectly, I have to start all over again.
Cool, thanks for the game comrades developers who works poorly.
And because of the poor work of the game - players become guilty of using some programs, cheats and the like, even when they did not use it.

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Re: The whole world is frozen - Save corrupt and 3rd party dll somehow involved.

Post by Alan Phipps » Fri, 24. Feb 23, 12:04

Well, if it is all down to poor game work as you suggest, then after the system clean up, clean game install and fresh start you would still be having this same issue that pretty much all the other X4 players are not seeing. Please let us know how it turns out. Good luck.
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Re: The whole world is frozen - Save corrupt and 3rd party dll somehow involved.

Post by MAJLbIW » Fri, 24. Feb 23, 12:11

Alan Phipps wrote:
Fri, 24. Feb 23, 12:04
Well, if it is all down to poor game work as you suggest, then after the system clean up, clean game install and fresh start you would still be having this same issue that pretty much all the other X4 players are not seeing. Please let us know how it turns out. Good luck.
This message is an accusation of using programs and cheats, but not a search for a problem in the game.
Moderator, you are not a game developer!!!

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