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Split destroyed what now?

Post by InDigital » Mon, 6. Feb 23, 10:12

If XENON destroyed all Split will they eventualy recover somehow?
I do not have rep with them. Maybe -15 or so but I want to help Split .

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Re: Split destroyed what now?

Post by jlehtone » Mon, 6. Feb 23, 12:13

ZYA and FRF should start with 8 sectors each (not counting the Boneyard). All 16 now wiped clean?


Even when faction is entirely wiped out it will still place station plots somewhere in the Galaxy.
Then it depends on non-enemies, usually Teladi, to provide materials and Builder Ship.

The in-game encyclopedia should list allies and enemies of each faction.
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Re: Split destroyed what now?

Post by jojorne » Mon, 6. Feb 23, 12:53

They come from planets. So yeah, they'll keep coming back eventually.
That's the difference between the factions and the player.
They have planets and we don't.

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Re: Split destroyed what now?

Post by InDigital » Mon, 6. Feb 23, 14:04

Except XENON?

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Re: Split destroyed what now?

Post by jlehtone » Mon, 6. Feb 23, 22:05

InDigital wrote:
Mon, 6. Feb 23, 14:04
Except XENON?
Nobody can help Xenon to rebuild. When they no longer have S ships to mine and ECells to haul, they are dead.
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Re: Split destroyed what now?

Post by As25 » Wed, 8. Feb 23, 22:52

jlehtone wrote:
Mon, 6. Feb 23, 22:05
Nobody can help Xenon to rebuild. When they no longer have S ships to mine and ECells to haul, they are dead.
That seems like an oversight. Surely there has to be a way to get back Xenons in your game other than having to restart from a new game.

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Re: Split destroyed what now?

Post by Alan Phipps » Wed, 8. Feb 23, 23:03

If you have started terraforming and are building lots of 'intelligent' terraforming drones then don't worry. Branch 10 is just an energetic exotic particle collision in a drone's AGI cpu away from happening! (Ever wondered why your drones keep disappearing and leaving radiating outward trails in the sector fog-of-war?) :wink:

More seriously, I always leave the Xenon sector far to the right of FRF space in peace. I sometimes go there just to spectate at the I/K patrols on duty there and remember glorious past battles near the old HAT/YAK/ZYA/PAR, TER/ANT/HOP, and TEL/FRF areas.
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Re: Split destroyed what now?

Post by Kolohe » Wed, 8. Feb 23, 23:10

I love it.

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Re: Split destroyed what now?

Post by alt3rn1ty » Wed, 8. Feb 23, 23:45

As25 wrote:
Wed, 8. Feb 23, 22:52
jlehtone wrote:
Mon, 6. Feb 23, 22:05
Nobody can help Xenon to rebuild. When they no longer have S ships to mine and ECells to haul, they are dead.
That seems like an oversight. Surely there has to be a way to get back Xenons in your game other than having to restart from a new game.
I unwittingly finished off most of them, I had them hemmed in with fleets on each gate they could spread from at one point, but then I must have reduced their numbers enough at some point that the ZYA sectors in the vicinity decided to put their big boots on and marched in to wipe out what I was trying to preserve.

But I do see Xenon regularly now trying to rebuild stations up in Emperors pride .. Unfortunately the Paranid are dominant up there and just repeatedly keep destroying rebuild attempts.
I suppose I could make an enemy of the Paranid and wipe them out of that sector to allow the Xenon to get a foothold again, that would be one way. But leaving what remains of the Xenon to their own they dont seem to be able to make a successfull come back.
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Re: Split destroyed what now?

Post by InDigital » Thu, 9. Feb 23, 08:43

Personally me: I cleared these sectors from Xenon completely:
Emperor's Pride
Savage Spur
Matrix #79B
Tharka's Cascade

And therefore there are no XENON activity in systems:
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Wretched Skies X
Wretched Skies V Family Phi
Wretched Skies IV Family Valka
Heretic's End

And I have base/Defence platform that prevents coming any XENON inside my world and it is located in Family Zhin (so it is my system/sector now).

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Re: Split destroyed what now?

Post by surferx » Thu, 9. Feb 23, 16:40

I cleared most of the Xenon sectors and they ended up owning only 3 sectors. Matrix 9, 451, and Family Tkr. Then they seemed to go into overdrive at that point. There are now Shipyards and Wharfs in all 3 sectors and they are trying to build these same stations in the surrounding Split and Teladi sectors.
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Re: Split destroyed what now?

Post by jlehtone » Thu, 9. Feb 23, 17:37

alt3rn1ty wrote:
Wed, 8. Feb 23, 23:45
I do see Xenon regularly now trying to rebuild stations up in Emperors pride .. Unfortunately the Paranid are dominant up there and just repeatedly keep destroying rebuild attempts.
Do the stations actually build or are those plots stuck at "initial 15%, waiting for materials"?
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Re: Split destroyed what now?

Post by Falcrack » Thu, 9. Feb 23, 19:07

If you are friendly to Split, build a shipyard and set it to sell only to Split. They will happily pay you for ships with their infinite reserves of money even if they own not a single sector or station. Sell station construction wares to the stations they attempt to build. They can be brought back.

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Re: Split destroyed what now?

Post by alt3rn1ty » Fri, 10. Feb 23, 01:55

jlehtone wrote:
Thu, 9. Feb 23, 17:37
alt3rn1ty wrote:
Wed, 8. Feb 23, 23:45
I do see Xenon regularly now trying to rebuild stations up in Emperors pride .. Unfortunately the Paranid are dominant up there and just repeatedly keep destroying rebuild attempts.
Do the stations actually build or are those plots stuck at "initial 15%, waiting for materials"?
Stuck at initial 15%
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Re: Split destroyed what now?

Post by dtpsprt » Fri, 10. Feb 23, 12:20

alt3rn1ty wrote:
Fri, 10. Feb 23, 01:55
jlehtone wrote:
Thu, 9. Feb 23, 17:37
alt3rn1ty wrote:
Wed, 8. Feb 23, 23:45
I do see Xenon regularly now trying to rebuild stations up in Emperors pride .. Unfortunately the Paranid are dominant up there and just repeatedly keep destroying rebuild attempts.
Do the stations actually build or are those plots stuck at "initial 15%, waiting for materials"?
Stuck at initial 15%
This means that they have no S ships to harvest and bring resources, even they don't have any Energy Factory left so even if they gather Ore and Silicon, they'll still be missing the Energy Cells... Nothing to be done. There is no way to "donate" a shipyard to them to produce the S ships...

EDIT: Obviously it is an "oversight" of Egosoft that their Energy Factories need Energy Cells to be built, not to mention that S ships should be respawned (even at a tricle) for them not to die...

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