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Odysseus remake!??

Post by Axeface » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 18:43

Looks like the Paranid are getting a makeover.....
Looks AMAZING!

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by mr.WHO » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 18:55

Maybe this will be faction overhaul so that PAR will have old ships and HOP will get new one and analog ANT/ARG, TEL/MIN ?

Plus HAT, SCA and ALI needs more ships.

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by Axeface » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:00

mr.WHO wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 18:55
Maybe this will be faction overhaul so that PAR will have old ships and HOP will get new one and analog ANT/ARG, TEL/MIN ?

Plus HAT, SCA and ALI needs more ships.
No I think they will replace entirely. And all those junkyard looking ships are pirate ships, i expect sca might get them too.

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by abisha1980 » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:00

they should give both models, i like also the old odysseus

but this one is also very cool
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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by mr.WHO » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:04

abisha1980 wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:00
they should give both models, i like also the old odysseus

but this one is also very cool
"X4: Foundations 5.00 Update
X4: Tides of Avarice is released at the same time as the extensive, free 5.00 update for X4: Foundations, which expands and improves the base game in several ways. The 5.00 update introduces a series of new capital ships. These ships have been re-imagined, and a new fleet of improved models will now be on sale in various shipyards. Several factions in the game will gradually start using these new and improved ships. The 5.00 update will also bring AMD FidelityFX™ Super Resolution (FSR) to X4: Foundations, using a collection of cutting-edge upscaling technologies to boost performance."


Doesn't sound like model replacement, more like addition.

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by xant » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:07

Bernd said both models will be available, for the player as well as the AI.

Also, there also seems to be a battleship for the Paranids. There was also a hint at further ship updates beyond the Paranids, though not with 5.0. For now they're the only ones. Well, excluding the new salvage ships, it seems everyone gets one.

What's more interesting is the luxury yacht with its many rooms (bar, swimming pool, bedroom etc.), somewhere we'll also get a casino. Sounds great!

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by abisha1980 » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:09

mr.WHO wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:04
abisha1980 wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:00
they should give both models, i like also the old odysseus

but this one is also very cool
"X4: Foundations 5.00 Update
X4: Tides of Avarice is released at the same time as the extensive, free 5.00 update for X4: Foundations, which expands and improves the base game in several ways. The 5.00 update introduces a series of new capital ships. These ships have been re-imagined, and a new fleet of improved models will now be on sale in various shipyards. Several factions in the game will gradually start using these new and improved ships. The 5.00 update will also bring AMD FidelityFX™ Super Resolution (FSR) to X4: Foundations, using a collection of cutting-edge upscaling technologies to boost performance."


Doesn't sound like model replacement, more like addition.
i like what i read finally some good news from Egosoft.
and i really like the FidelityFX only worry about DLSS.

also i would suggest they take notes about Xe super sampling

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by Axeface » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:21

xant wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:07
Bernd said both models will be available, for the player as well as the AI.
Huh, thats really weird. The quality is so different, i'de rather they completely replace. Really dont like the mish-mash of quality...

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by Meme Turtle » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:22

Axeface wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 18:43
Looks like the Paranid are getting a makeover.....
Looks AMAZING!

https://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/stea ... 1637859836
That's one sleek and sexy looking hair dryer.

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by mr.WHO » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:26

xant wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:07
Also, there also seems to be a battleship for the Paranids. There was also a hint at further ship updates beyond the Paranids, though not with 5.0. For now they're the only ones. Well, excluding the new salvage ships, it seems everyone gets one.
Nice to see Egosoft started to fill the gaps of base X4 factions - they really need an overhaul, just like medium turrets.
It's good, even if we only get Paranids in 5.0 as long as Argon and Paranids will follow eventually.

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by Artean » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:32

xant wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:07
Bernd said both models will be available, for the player as well as the AI.

Also, there also seems to be a battleship for the Paranids. There was also a hint at further ship updates beyond the Paranids, though not with 5.0. For now they're the only ones. Well, excluding the new salvage ships, it seems everyone gets one.

What's more interesting is the luxury yacht with its many rooms (bar, swimming pool, bedroom etc.), somewhere we'll also get a casino. Sounds great!
This sounds superb.
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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by xant » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:33

Axeface wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:21
Huh, thats really weird. The quality is so different, i'de rather they completely replace. Really dont like the mish-mash of quality...
Egosoft tries to avoid deep and fundamental changes to current games to keep the save games compatible. Bernd said that some players - according to Steam statistics - are almost reaching 10k hours and a few of them might be still on their first save.

That's why sun efficiency won't ever change in the old sectors. And that's why old things won't get removed.

But that's where the new X-22 project might get things done. If it is really a stand-alone version of X4 with all its DLCs, then this is where I think Egosoft would start removing old things.

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by chew-ie » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:37

Axeface wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 18:43
Looks like the Paranid are getting a makeover.....
Looks AMAZING!

https://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/stea ... 1637859836
Just stumbeled across it @GOG as well - it's an awesome ship!

I do hope it will be a full replacement for the Oddy. The similar docking bays, the L turret placement is a strong indicator for that IMHO.

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by xant » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:41

chew-ie wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:37
I do hope it will be a full replacement for the Oddy. The similar docking bays, the L turret placement is a strong indicator for that IMHO.
No full replacement, just an alternative. Both can be used by the player and the AI will also use both models. They will have slightly different stats btw.

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by linolafett » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:42

We did redo all paranid capital ships to make them match the quality of the ships released in the dlcs.
There is no new paranid battleship.

As far as i know:
The new ships will replace the old ones in new gamestarts.
In existing games the old ones will stay (for the player). The NPC factions will build/buy the new ones and slowly fade out the old designs that way.
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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by xant » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:46

linolafett wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:42
We did redo all paranid capital ships to make them match the quality of the ships released in the dlcs.
Then this isn't a new battleship, but the new model of the Zeus?

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by linolafett » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:47

xant wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:46
linolafett wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:42
We did redo all paranid capital ships to make them match the quality of the ships released in the dlcs.
Then this isn't a new battleship, but the new model of the Zeus?

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by chew-ie » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:48

linolafett wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:42
As far as i know:
The new ships will replace the old ones in new gamestarts.
In existing games the old ones will stay (for the player). The NPC factions will build/buy the new ones and slowly fade out the old designs that way.
Wohoo! Thanks for the additional information :)

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by mr.WHO » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:50

linolafett wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:42
In existing games the old ones will stay (for the player). The NPC factions will build/buy the new ones and slowly fade out the old designs that way.
Will they be still available as blueprints, if we start a new game? or will they fully dissapear from existence?
Maybe it would be a good idea to push them to other minor factions, like HAT, SCA and ALI - since they are missing their unique ships anyway?

I mean this would fit greatly:

old Argon ships --> HAT
old Teladi ships --> SCA
old Paranid ships --> ALI

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by mr.WHO » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:50

xant wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:46
linolafett wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:42
We did redo all paranid capital ships to make them match the quality of the ships released in the dlcs.
Then this isn't a new battleship, but the new model of the Zeus?

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